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Title: new system input
Post by: upstage on May 23, 2009, 12:29:54 AM
I want a knew system i have about 1400 to work with and my frankensteined dell just dont cut it any more.....I have burnt up 2 boards and my warranty is about to expire.... I would like to build my own instead of getting stuck with some pre-made  POS
this is what i have now
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_qfe.070227-2300)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.               
       System Model: OptiPlex 320                 
               BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 1.1.4
          Processor: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 3.06GHz
             Memory: 2046MB RAM
          Page File: 161MB used, 3777MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
Display Devices
---------------
        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6600
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 6600
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0141&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2
   Display Memory: 256.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1280 x 720 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.6218 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
 Sound device
----------------
 Description: SB Live! Audio [ECE0]
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yeshttp
            Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80641102&REV_07
        Manufacturer ID: 1
here is what i want
http://www.compusa.com/cgi-bin/ShoppingCart.asp?prchbcart=y&msg=0&q=1,%201,%201,%201,%202,%201,%201,%201
tell me what you think
Title: Re: new system input
Post by: Fulmar on May 23, 2009, 12:31:23 AM
You can't link to your Shopping Cart, no one other than you can see it.  Direct links only.  $1400 can buy you a lot of stuff.  Are you planning on reusing anything?  OS?  Hard drives? Monitor?  Keyboard? etC?

Building your own PC is a lot of fun if you haven't done it before.
Title: Re: new system input
Post by: upstage on May 23, 2009, 12:33:40 AM
My moniter just because its my 42" tv that i use....other then that no...lookin for a fresh start.....and i didnt know about the cart thing....
Title: Re: new system input
Post by: upstage on May 23, 2009, 12:39:23 AM
O261-7604 :: OCZ Fatal1ty 4GB Dual Channel PC8500 DDR2 1066MHz (2x2048MB) (0.2 lbs) 

    A406-1116 :: XION Power Real 1000W ATX Power Supply (5 lbs) 
 
    T925-1200 :: Thermaltake / Max Orb / Multi-Socket 775/AM2/939/754 / Copper Base / CPU Cooler (2 lbs) 
 
    B69-2063 :: XFX nForce 750i SLI Motherboard CPU Bundle - Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 2.80GHz Retail Processor (3.4 lbs) 
       
    P450-9824 :: XFX GeForce 9800 GTX + Video Card - 512MB DDR3, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, HDTV, VGA Support (5.5 lbs) 
 
    C44-3392 :: Creative Labs SB X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty Champ PCIe Sound Card (70SB088600007) (2.95 lbs) 
 
    TSD-1000H4 :: Hitachi 7K1000.B Hard Drive - 1TB, 7200RPM, 16MB, SATA-300, OEM (1.7 lbs) 
 
    A107-1094 :: Apevia X-Jupiter G Type ATX Full-Tower Case - Clear Side, Front USB and FireWire Ports, (30 lbs) 

this is what i was thinkin about
Title: Re: new system input
Post by: The Fugitive on May 23, 2009, 09:11:48 AM
TilDeath builds some killer boxes. You can read a number of happy reviews here on these boards. They certainly don't sound like those "pre-made pos" you can get sucked into. Just a thought.
Title: Re: new system input
Post by: Getback on May 23, 2009, 10:44:52 AM
What's your budget?
Title: Re: new system input
Post by: BaldEagl on May 23, 2009, 10:49:20 AM
What's your budget?

The 6th through 12th words in the OP were: "i have about 1400 to work with "
Title: Re: new system input
Post by: Getback on May 23, 2009, 11:47:00 AM
The 6th through 12th words in the OP were: "i have about 1400 to work with "

oops, give me a break I haven't had my 9th diet coke yet  :lol :lol
Title: Re: new system input
Post by: Masherbrum on May 23, 2009, 12:51:05 PM
O261-7604 :: OCZ Fatal1ty 4GB Dual Channel PC8500 DDR2 1066MHz (2x2048MB) (0.2 lbs) 

    A406-1116 :: XION Power Real 1000W ATX Power Supply (5 lbs) 
 
    T925-1200 :: Thermaltake / Max Orb / Multi-Socket 775/AM2/939/754 / Copper Base / CPU Cooler (2 lbs) 
 
    B69-2063 :: XFX nForce 750i SLI Motherboard CPU Bundle - Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 2.80GHz Retail Processor (3.4 lbs) 
       
    P450-9824 :: XFX GeForce 9800 GTX + Video Card - 512MB DDR3, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, HDTV, VGA Support (5.5 lbs) 
 
    C44-3392 :: Creative Labs SB X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty Champ PCIe Sound Card (70SB088600007) (2.95 lbs) 
 
    TSD-1000H4 :: Hitachi 7K1000.B Hard Drive - 1TB, 7200RPM, 16MB, SATA-300, OEM (1.7 lbs) 
 
    A107-1094 :: Apevia X-Jupiter G Type ATX Full-Tower Case - Clear Side, Front USB and FireWire Ports, (30 lbs) 

this is what i was thinkin about

Negative on the PSU, Sound Card and Case.


Motherboard: $139.99 (& $15.00 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128369 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128369)

CPU: $167.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037)

RAM: $99.99 (& $30.00 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227341 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227341)

PSU: $119.99 (& $20.00 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703019 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703019)

Video Card: $194.99 (& $20.00 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130372 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130372)

CPU Cooler: $49.99 (& $10.00 rebate)
http://microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0285949 (http://microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0285949)

Case: $119.99 (& $20.00 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146047 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146047)

HDD: $74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319)

Sound Card: $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102023 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102023)

Subtotal:  $1022.91
                $115.00
       
Total above:  $907.91

Notes:  You'd still need a Drive & OS.   However the performance gained from the above is no joke.

Finally, TilDeath is the most knowledgeable PC guru I've come across to date.   His builds speak for him.   
Title: Re: new system input
Post by: Getback on May 23, 2009, 01:15:40 PM
Looks good to me Karaya. I would bump the cpu to the e8500 for 20 bucks though. However, in AH I doubt if he would see the difference.
Title: Re: new system input
Post by: Masherbrum on May 23, 2009, 04:05:27 PM
Looks good to me Karaya. I would bump the cpu to the e8500 for 20 bucks though. However, in AH I doubt if he would see the difference.

I enjoy doing this now.  Roughly $500 under budget too.  :D
Title: Re: new system input
Post by: upstage on May 23, 2009, 04:19:37 PM
yeh i've seen the reviews that tilldeath gets he seems to be th go to guy on here so..... i just wanted to see if i was on the right track
Title: Re: new system input
Post by: BaldEagl on May 23, 2009, 06:39:59 PM
Pretty good build by Karaya except I'd get the Creative X-Fi Gamer card instead (the one that's about $90.00).
Title: Re: new system input
Post by: skullman on May 23, 2009, 10:41:16 PM
for that budget Tildeath can build a great system-ask anyone who has bought one-I got the q9550 intel quad core w/4 megs ram an never run under 59 on framerate
Title: Re: new system input
Post by: Getback on May 23, 2009, 11:21:13 PM
I enjoy doing this now.  Roughly $500 under budget too.  :D

I've been quite impressed with your selection Karaya for several builds.

I basically limit my suggestions to CPU, Hotas, Optical drives, and Power Supplies. These things I am real confident on after many many experiments. (no Baldeagl, I haven't melted anything.................yet    :lol :lol) I'm never sure about motherboards or video cards. I've bought bad equipment in both of those categories. Currently I am using an Abit mother board that I just love and an MSI board. Both seem very good. However I am not confident enough to recommend either. Also Abit no longer makes mb's. Ditto for memory, although I favor OCZ from what I have read, from what others have said, and I use OCZ in one of my computers with no issues.  In both of my machines I use ATI video cards, one is an 3850 and the other is a 3870. No problems with either. I went to ATI after buy a funky Nvidia 8600. It was bad. It ran but it just didn't measure up. After switching to ATI I built a machine for my mom and used the 8600 on her machine. She had issues. It wouldn't run some videos. We switched to an ATI 3870 and no more issues. I do recommend the NZXT case and the Antec 900. I have a 900 and it is Mr. Cool. I have a CoolerMaster case that I totally regret buying. It does the job and is fairly easy to work with but the on/off switch is annoying. It's on the side and pushes in awkwardly while the 900's button is beautiful and located on the top. What impresses me with the NZXT is the room inside. Anyone who has butted up against the drive bays understands this.

Mom's machine was a budget build. I used an e2200 and a gigabyte mb. It runs great! I can't remember the brand of the ram. The HD was a WD and the optical drive was a Samsung SATA DVD Lightscribe. Like the one in my machine. The only issue was the 9 year old Dell Keyboard. That is fixed along with weak speakers.

Title: Re: new system input
Post by: TilDeath on May 26, 2009, 04:37:53 PM
Stay away from that PSU the XION brand.  Easy way to check out a company is to call and see

Then make a decision
Title: Re: new system input
Post by: Irwink! on May 27, 2009, 11:00:40 AM
Stay away from that PSU the XION brand.  Easy way to check out a company is to call and see

  • 1. How easy the number is to find
  • 2. How long for tech support to answer
  • 3. What is the RMA process
  • 4. What is the warranty period for the product
Then make a decision

Aside from the above points, what's your first hand experience with the reliability and performance of Xion PSU's? Don't get the wind up. I'm not posting in order to defend them.

I used one a couple of years ago for a non-critical media center build. I decided to give it a try not based on experience or reputation but based on price at the time and most especially the large exhaust fan that actively drew air from the interior of the case and exhausted it.

Since then everything has remained well within spec according to various diagnostics. But it's not installed in a gaming box and not heavily taxed. I never bent over backward to research it before or after the purchase. I'm just curious about your own or others' experience with the brand.

For more demanding stuff I've use PCP&C stuff for years, so no one needs to sell me on those.  ;)
Title: Re: new system input
Post by: TilDeath on May 27, 2009, 12:36:18 PM
Aside from the above points, what's your first hand experience with the reliability and performance of Xion PSU's? Don't get the wind up. I'm not posting in order to defend them.

I used one a couple of years ago for a non-critical media center build. I decided to give it a try not based on experience or reputation but based on price at the time and most especially the large exhaust fan that actively drew air from the interior of the case and exhausted it.

Since then everything has remained well within spec according to various diagnostics. But it's not installed in a gaming box and not heavily taxed. I never bent over backward to research it before or after the purchase. I'm just curious about your own or others' experience with the brand.

For more demanding stuff I've use PCP&C stuff for years, so no one needs to sell me on those.  ;)
Well out of the 6 I bought (1000w) 5 of them failed within 3 months.  You can never get anyone on the phone, sent them in with there respected RMA numbers and to this day have not got 3 of them back.  After dozens of phone calls I finally gave up. The one that is left of the 6 is sitting here on the shelf for a bargain basement sale, of if I take a system in on trade that has a crapper PSU then this one.  I am not the only one with this experience with these PSU's.  I am not one to take customer reviews to heart since most writing them are not in the business as I am, but look at the reviews of the 1000w on NewEgg  out of 9 reviews 3 or 4 had similar problems as I did.