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Title: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: Nilsen on May 23, 2009, 08:10:46 AM
I have a neighbour that gets to borrow my internet for school etc, but i dont want her to use limewire, kazaa and other software like that.   

How can i block those kinds of programs from going through my router?

Any ideas?
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: Fulmar on May 23, 2009, 09:12:09 AM
Depends on what kind of router you have.  What Brand/Model is it?  El Cheapos or older ones may not give you the options to do it.  Some newer or nicer ones can.
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: bcadoo on May 23, 2009, 09:31:27 AM
Some routers allow you to block domains, but most likely you should find out what ports those apps use and block those ports.
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: Kazaa on May 23, 2009, 09:38:52 AM
She's cheating on me...
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: Nilsen on May 23, 2009, 10:08:37 AM
Not a cheapo router. Its a... dlink dir-655

Has alot of options for blocking stuff, but not apps i think. Only website, ports and IP addresses
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: Gaidin on May 23, 2009, 10:19:31 AM
Just do a google search for the ports used by the programs you don't want her using and block those ports.

cross check them and make sure they aren't used for common things she might need though.
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: Nilsen on May 23, 2009, 10:23:20 AM
Just do a google search for the ports used by the programs you don't want her using and block those ports.

cross check them and make sure they aren't used for common things she might need though.

Sounds like thats the only option i have yes.
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: Getback on May 23, 2009, 10:46:37 AM
I would put this in the hardware software forum. There's folks that look at that forum every day just to help or gleam some knowledge.
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: 4deck on May 23, 2009, 11:02:07 AM
You could use a program call Getif, believe it freeware. That should tell you every port being used, and what application and ip address. Once you know which ones to block you could do that, But at the end of the day if she's actually opened up sharing then theres no telling how many IP's are gonna connect to you.
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: bj229r on May 23, 2009, 12:19:37 PM
Does said neighbor borrow your computer, or just internet access thru your wireless router?
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: Nilsen on May 23, 2009, 12:28:49 PM
just access so i cant put anything on her puter
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: eagl on May 23, 2009, 12:35:37 PM
You can block the domains of popular filesharing sites, which will prevent her from using a web browser to look for the files.  The router ought to have a menu where you can just add either entire domain names or even just keywords (like pirate, porn, etc) and it will block web access to any site with that text in the address.

As for the ports, that's a lot more difficult.  You can configure bittorrent to use ANY range of ports, so blocking it is somewhat problematic.

You might actually need to go the opposite route, and block ALL ports except for commonly used "legit" ones like 80 for web, 21 (ftp?), etc.  That is sort of how windows firewall works, where it *attempts* to block inbound traffic to all ports except ones you have explicitly left open.  That might be the only way to block the filesharing programs since they know people will attempt to block their use.

Of course, if she's smart she'll just configure bittorrent/kazaa or whatever to use port 80 and then you're hosed, but if you detect that she's doing that then she's busted and just cut off her access and give her a stern lecture about betraying trust, etc :)
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: Nilsen on May 23, 2009, 12:54:16 PM
Yup eagl. I have blocked the majority of the websites and torrent sites for her. On my router you can set rules for each of the MAC addresses on the network so that is done. The problem lies with mainly kazaa and limewire that i know she uses.

Doesnt bother me that she DL/steals so much but when she gets going and uploads stuff aswell it can affect my AH gaming hehe.
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: moot on May 23, 2009, 01:14:47 PM
One intermediate alternative is to block the listen port. That won't stop her but it'll kill her download speeds by quite a bit.
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: Fulmar on May 23, 2009, 01:25:00 PM
One intermediate alternative is to block the listen port. That won't stop her but it'll kill her download speeds by quite a bit.
IIRC (from my college dorm days), Kazaa and the likes will tunnel its traffic along port 80 (HTTP, web browsing).  You'd need something to 'sniff' the packets.
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: eagl on May 23, 2009, 08:30:06 PM
Block everything but port 80, whatever email uses, and whatever ports skuzzy says you need for AH.
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: OOZ662 on May 24, 2009, 02:10:56 PM
Or you could probably pull it off with OpenDNS (http://www.opendns.com/). Even if not, it's still a great service.
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: DrDea on May 24, 2009, 03:50:33 PM
 Or just say get your own intardnet. :D
  Correct me if Im wrong but its her computer right? Who cares?
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: Thruster on May 24, 2009, 03:56:30 PM
My a/v lets me give permissions to individual programs. I kinda thought that was standard. Just block internet access to those apps.


I think.
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: Vulcan on May 24, 2009, 05:28:00 PM
I have a neighbour that gets to borrow my internet for school etc, but i dont want her to use limewire, kazaa and other software like that.   

How can i block those kinds of programs from going through my router?

Any ideas?

Waste of time trying unless you have a box like I sell. Anything less and it's just gonna tunnel out. That's what you get for promosing the girl next door free internet you perv :)
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: Sombra on May 24, 2009, 07:33:49 PM
Maybe this thread can help you?

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19302763-DIR655-QoS-Question

Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: Vulcan on May 24, 2009, 09:12:02 PM
Maybe this thread can help you?
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19302763-DIR655-QoS-Question

Still won't help him.
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: DrDea on May 24, 2009, 09:23:25 PM
just access so i cant put anything on her puter
Im not getting why your worried about her useing her computer.Unless your worried she could DL something that could come back on you.Highly doubtful.
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: Nilsen on May 25, 2009, 12:10:13 AM
Im not getting why your worried about her useing her computer.Unless your worried she could DL something that could come back on you.Highly doubtful.

Well... because when she uses limewire and other filesharing software like that my cartoon plane warps like a chiwawa on ecstasy and my ping goes ping pong. :o
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: Vulcan on May 25, 2009, 03:50:36 AM
Well... because when she uses limewire and other filesharing software like that my cartoon plane warps like a chiwawa on ecstasy and my ping goes ping pong. :o

Well Sonicwall are releasing some new low end models based on their Cavium Octeon chipset shortly nilsen, wasn't allowed to talk about it but some idiot in their marketing department posted firmware release notes on the website so it's no big secret anymore :)  - TZ-100 should be fairly cheap, not sure what the throughput's gonna be like though.
Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: Nilsen on May 25, 2009, 05:24:01 AM
Well Sonicwall are releasing some new low end models based on their Cavium Octeon chipset shortly nilsen, wasn't allowed to talk about it but some idiot in their marketing department posted firmware release notes on the website so it's no big secret anymore :)  - TZ-100 should be fairly cheap, not sure what the throughput's gonna be like though.

Interesting  :)

Gonna have to have a consumer friendly price though. My cheapest option is to not let her use my network at all and make her get broadband. Only reason I let her now is because she is really sweet and walks the dog, mowes the lawn and water our plants when we are away or dont wanna. How she looks in a bikini has absolutly nothing to do with it  :D

Title: Re: How do i block limewire, kazaa etc on my network?
Post by: DrDea on May 25, 2009, 09:04:04 AM
Well... because when she uses limewire and other filesharing software like that my cartoon plane warps like a chiwawa on ecstasy and my ping goes ping pong. :o
Yea I can see where that would hinder your protecting the sheep. :aok