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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Qrsu on May 25, 2009, 11:17:01 AM
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Got myself into a P-38J the other day after a long absence and have been hooked. I mainly fly 109s but have decided to give another planeset a look and the P-38 seems to fit nicely. Was just wondering if any experienced P-38 pilots would be available for a bit of mentoring over the next little while. Please send me a PM if you're seriously interested (IE. Have the time to meet up twice a week or so). I consider myself pretty teachable and I'll be punctual. :)
Qrsu
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My schedule is very tight right now; I've got a couple people I'm working with already, work is asking me to do 30 hours in 2 days, and the wife/daughter still want time as well.
Sorry I can't help right now, I might be available into next weekend but that is the best I can do. You're better off finding a better 38 stick than me anyhow.
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Off the top of my head you could ask B4Buster he taught me lots of stuff.
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Got myself into a P-38J the other day after a long absence and have been hooked. I mainly fly 109s but have decided to give another planeset a look and the P-38 seems to fit nicely. Was just wondering if any experienced P-38 pilots would be available for a bit of mentoring over the next little while. Please send me a PM if you're seriously interested (IE. Have the time to meet up twice a week or so). I consider myself pretty teachable and I'll be punctual. :)
Qrsu
Come fly with the 113th Lucky Strikes. We are a P38 Squad flying the L in attack mode, the J and G as light fighters. We fly as Knights on Saturday evenings at 7PM EST in the late ware arena. We use VOX 113. Come wing up have fun.
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I don't think I could show you too much you probably don't already know, never considered myself a good teacher. But if you're looking for someone to wing up with and get your little cartoon pilot dead, now that's an order I probably wouldn't have any trouble filling. :)
Feel free to look me up if you see me in the MA and we'll see if we can find some trouble to get into.
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My schedule is very tight right now; I've got a couple people I'm working with already, work is asking me to do 30 hours in 2 days, and the wife/daughter still want time as well.
Sorry I can't help right now, I might be available into next weekend but that is the best I can do. You're better off finding a better 38 stick than me anyhow.
lol Del, you're far too modest.
Qrsu, If I were you I would look Del up when his schedule isn't so full. :aok
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Soulyss too.
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All of these fine offers are being received with serious elation... I will have to make sure to take full advantage of them! Thank you for all the support, guys.
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You're such a plane slut Qrsu.
:devil
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glad to see you still alive old timer :salute
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You're such a plane slut Qrsu.
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You're right, Bug. However, I haven't given up the 109... not in the least! I'm just giving another plane some love. ;)
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I tagged you a couple times in a Hurri yesterday Qrsu. I noticed it was fairly easy to catch you when you would climb up because you turned too soon or bled too much E initially. The reason I noticed it was because I tend to have the same problem lol! :salute
Yesterday due to an ENY issue I flew the G model and found I kept my E a little better in it so I think I may play with that a little to help beef up my skills. I too love the 38 and want to excel in it.
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Yep. I've always had an E-Retention issue in any plane I fly. I got caught three times over that base yesturday, once by your Hurricane once by another and then a 109(who was really lagging). Everytime was the same, I zoom climbed to stay over the top and misjudged my E-state.
I kept saying "How the heck is that Hurri climbing so well?" lol.
<S> Ratpack1.
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Double post. D'oh.
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lol :salute
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Here's a film I made over the weekend that has a couple of note worthy fights.
A6M5, Spitfire, C.205 vs. P-38J (http://www.mediafire.com/?zmn2hzw4xdw)
In the beginning of the film, I see a low A6M5 and I prepare to roll in on it when I finally spot the Spitfire I had climbed up to hunt. I break off the A6M5 and deal with the Spitfire first because if I didn't, he would have picked me while I was dancing with the Zeke. I quickly knock the Spitfire out of the fight and then pounce on the Zeke. Actually, rather lackluster kills on my part and are really nothing more than filler for the time in between fights with snaphook.
After dispatching the Zeke, I start to look for the Spitfire I knocked out of the fight to finish it off when I stumbled into a C.205. I'm relatively low on energy (think I was around 250mph IAS or so when I first spotted snaphook) and quickly level out and hit WEP and then slight nose down to build energy for the merge. Lucky for me, the C.205 when low on the merge, this allowed me to roll into a Low Yo-Yo on the merge and gain sufficient energy to follow up the slightly faster (think he had between 30 to 50mph on me) into the vertical for the kill. In the film when snaphook and I talk about it, I made the mistake and stated my energy state at around 300mph IAS at the merge when I was actually slightly faster.
I run into the C.205 again and the fight is on. This is the fight that makes this film worth watching. In the beginning, I had the altitude and energy advantage and could have danced on the C.205's head all day long but knowing the other guy at the controls was an excellent pilot, I felt that a knife fight would be more enjoyable for the both of us and dumped my energy and engaged.
For the P-38 flyers, this fight is a good example of fighting in the vertical and the use of flaps at a low energy state. There were a couple of times during the fight that I really regretting dumping my energy since the fight was so fluid that one second one of us had the slight edge and then the next moment the other guy would have the slight edge with neither of us being quite able to sync things together correctly. I knew that I would be able to follow his vertical moves for the most part but I had to take extreme care that I would not stall out before he does. If I did stall out before snaphook, he would have rolled over and easily killed my floundering Lightning. In this kind of fight, I had to make sure that he stalled out before me. Since my plane is better in the vertical and is probably the best plane in the game for hanging on its props, I knew that if he stalled out before me, I had one of two options:
Option One: As the C.205 stalled out above me, I could keep my nose up and as the C.205 started to come down from his stall, I could roll inverted and pull into him for a lead turn as he fell past my nose during his stall for the kill shot.
Option Two: If I was unable to gain the angle for the kill shot, I could just saddle up instead.
Because I didn't have the angle for Option One, I tried Option Two. Because I was able to saddle up as he was coming down from his vertical climb (after his stall at the top), I was able to generate enough energy on the descent by raising my flaps as I was coming down. This allowed to me to continue to follow the C.205 in the vertical and eventually equalize energy states enough that I was able to go for the kill.
This is the kind of fight that everyone should live for. It was a fluid and dynamic fight where it could have gone either way from moment to moment and makes one fly their plane to their utmost. Fortunately, while the fight was almost ruined by the Spitfire looking for revenge, I was able to avoid the pick attempts and it also helped that the Spitfire driver wasn't very skilled in either flying or fighting. I think he had the stall limiter on which prevented him from pulling a hard lead on his pick attempts and his failure to be able to stay with my maneuvers on the deck.
<S> snaphook.
ack-ack
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Thanks for the film Ak-Ak. Great flying.
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I'm starting to take a liking the 38 more and more as I fly it. Though I'm not accomplished as a pilot I find I can maneuver on the deck and turn with almost anything. Up high I need work but the other night I gave a couple of F4's the fits and was able to hold them off while pinging them up a little. Still I have not found my plane yet. So I've been whoring myself to a lot of rides myself. LOL
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I love the P-38 now. It's just so versatile and surprising. I've transitioned from the P-38 series from my Fw190A5 & P47 and it's just wonderful. The nose mounted guns offer a lethal arsenal for any fighter that makes the mistake of sitting in front of you for more than a second.
It's maneuverability is stellar. I can honestly say that the 38 is the only big twin engine fighter that can pull off alot of the "unbelievable" moves that you see being executed by the 80th and the rest of the vet 38 sticks. Only thing you have to learn is that you're going to down..alot while you learn it. But once you start to understand it more and utilize it's traits she'll start to reward you greatly which is what I'm coming to find out.
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I'm glad to see more people are taking an interest in the P38. :salute
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Only plane I fly now. :aok
But would like a mentor so i can get the most out of this bird. :devil
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I'm glad to see more people are taking an interest in the P38. :salute
Marvelous airplane. Quite possibly the most versatile Jabo we have, with a great mish-mash of attributes.
Its a great snap shooter, and overall a great gun platform.
Shes a gunslinger, the Lightning is. And so pretty....so beautiful.
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/Lockheed_P-38_Lightning_USAF.jpg)
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what are they like at flying up in the pure vertical to rope people? I love to do that manover in K4..people seem to forget how good the K4 is at flying in the vertical
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I believe 109K4 will out climb the 38 but all that brute power up front has a disadvantage, lots and lots of torque. The 38 has a good zoom and is one of the better climbers in the american stable in sustained climb rate but what makes it so nice is that it's is completely docile and stable once you get the top. The rope, and spiral climbs are a couple personal favorites of mine and work very well in the 38 when done right.
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And I suppose due to the lack of torque, spiral climbs to the right are deadly.
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One thing I've always wanted to learn was the triple immelman for merges. I've attempted it in practice over and over but always seem to stall it before I can pull the nose over the third time. The approach I use is full power with WEP for the first immel (loosely turning, maybe 2.5Gs?), roll over pull for the second with two clicks of flaps and reduced throttle to get over the top --> WEP when I level and then try for the third... no go. ;)
Any tips on that? I try to get about 400 IAS before attempting it, is that not enough?
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what are they like at flying up in the pure vertical to rope people? I love to do that manover in K4..people seem to forget how good the K4 is at flying in the vertical
The P-38 is probably one of the better, if not best performers in the vertical. While some planes come close, no other plane can hang on its props like the Lightning can.
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