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Title: got this in an email
Post by: 1sum41 on May 31, 2009, 12:22:20 AM
this is talking about a SR71 Blackbird



One day, high above  Arizona , we were monitoring

the radio traffic of all the mortal airplanes below us.

First, a Cessna pilot asked the air traffic controllers

to check his ground speed. 'Ninety knots,' ATC replied.

 A Bonanza soon made the same request.

'One-twenty on the ground,' was the reply. To our

surprise, a navy F-18 came over the radio with a

ground speed check. I knew exactly what he was

doing. Of course, he had a ground speed indicator

in his cockpit, but he wanted to let all the

bug-smashers in the valley know what real speed

was 'Dusty 52, we show you at 620 on the ground,'

ATC responded.



 

The situation was too ripe. I heard

the click of Walt's mike button in the rear seat.

In his most innocent voice, Walt startled the

controller by asking for a ground speed check

from 81,000 feet, clearly above controlled airspace.

In a cool, professional voice, the controller replied,

'  Aspen 20, I show you at 1,982 knots on the ground.'

We did not hear another transmission on that

frequency all the way to the coast.
Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: Clone155 on May 31, 2009, 12:51:31 AM
Is this real?  :lol
Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: Anodizer on May 31, 2009, 02:24:00 AM
Probably not..  While I don't know the US Air Force's communications and security protocol when it comes to flying the fastest plane in the world(albeit a spy-plane), I still can't see
two disciplined pilots (flying a spy plane would necessitate discipline, wouldn't it?) doing something like this just to show off..  So yeah, my opinion is that it's fake..  Sounds like chain letter
material..
Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: Kazaa on May 31, 2009, 02:32:09 AM
 :D
Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: stroker71 on May 31, 2009, 08:46:45 PM
That and breaking the sound barrier over land is a no-no
Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: killjoy1 on May 31, 2009, 10:18:36 PM
My nephew flies B1b's and the SOP is to NOE along the Mexican border at takeoff. 
Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: Sundowner on June 01, 2009, 05:01:38 AM
So, I wonder if the Blackbird pilot Maj Brian Shul author of the book "Sled Driver" lied when he included this story? :eek:

I tend to believe him. :aok

http://www.tom-phillips.info/images.a/sr71.blackbird.htm

Scroll down for the book excerpt.

"Sled Driver" Home Page

https://galleryonepublishing.com/sleddriver/index.html

Regards,
Sun



Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: MaSonZ on June 01, 2009, 06:02:51 AM
i know the fuselage flexed to the amount of fuel in it or something, but what made the blackbird so fast vs. other jet fighters? ive probably heard but am drawing a brain fart atm
Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: WilldCrd on June 01, 2009, 09:21:29 AM
Probably not..  While I don't know the US Air Force's communications and security protocol when it comes to flying the fastest plane in the world(albeit a spy-plane), I still can't see
two disciplined pilots (flying a spy plane would necessitate discipline, wouldn't it?) doing something like this just to show off..  So yeah, my opinion is that it's fake..  Sounds like chain letter
material..

Disciplined or not they still have a sense of humor (well most of em) and this seems like something they would do.
The only time they would "have" to maintain radio silence is on a actual mission. There have been lots of times that they will talk on the radio, especially the blackbird used by NASA for testing.

That and breaking the sound barrier over land is a no-no

that is incorrect. Pilots break the sound barrier over land all the time. They just cant do it over "populated" or restricted corridors. IIRC Arizona has alot of unpopulated space that they can go super duper sonic. Besides going super sonic at 81,000 ft is ALOT different than a jet doing it at 20-30,000 ft. (less boom on the ground)
Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: bcadoo on June 01, 2009, 09:33:15 AM
i know the fuselage flexed to the amount of fuel in it or something, but what made the blackbird so fast vs. other jet fighters? ive probably heard but am drawing a brain fart atm

THRUST
Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: Jappa52 on June 01, 2009, 02:50:26 PM
i know the fuselage flexed to the amount of fuel in it or something, but what made the blackbird so fast vs. other jet fighters? ive probably heard but am drawing a brain fart atm

Built      For        Speed  :aok
(http://www.wvi.com/~sr71webmaster/srban5a.jpg)


SR71
Engines: 2 Pratt & Whittney J-58 (JT11D-20A) with 34,000 lbs. of thrust per.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2611542402_daf0ef7fb8.jpg?v=0)
F15
Engines: 2 Pratt and Whitney F100-PW-100 turbofan engines with 23,830 pounds per.


(http://www.air-attack.com/MIL/f4/f4_header.jpg)
F4
Engines: 2 General Electric J79 engines with 18,062 poundes per.


Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: TonyJoey on June 01, 2009, 03:02:18 PM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: Jappa52 on June 01, 2009, 03:19:41 PM
My post wasn't meant to poke fun at the question. If you look at the SR71 head on it’s pretty intimidating with those two HUGE engines sitting there. Just by looking at it you know what it was built for.  You can’t really compare it to other fighters though. For one, it wasn’t a fighter and two it would be the same as comparing a corvette to a formula 1 car. Both are fast but only one was really built for speed…

(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/autopia/images/2007/10/22/corvette.jpg)

(http://www.blognroll.net/content/binary/2006_Team_McLaren_Mercedes-.jpg)

 :)
Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: MaSonZ on June 01, 2009, 03:34:29 PM
thanks for the visual aids Jappa.  :salute :aok
Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: macerxgp on June 01, 2009, 05:33:59 PM
I believe what I want to.

And I really, really want to believe this.
Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: Spikes on June 01, 2009, 05:52:47 PM
Mason, like said...engine power and slimness.
Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: Rash on June 01, 2009, 06:19:47 PM
Bob Shaw has a story about the time he broke the sound barrier between St. Louis and Chicago.  He even held the world speed record between those two cities for a little while.  :D
Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: Jappa52 on June 01, 2009, 09:07:14 PM
thanks for the visual aids Jappa.  :salute :aok

lol well ya know, pilots and pictures... even virtual ones  :D

Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: 1sum41 on June 01, 2009, 10:40:24 PM
if yall want ill post the entire email thats only part of it.
Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: Ponyace on June 01, 2009, 10:41:23 PM
if yall want ill post the entire email thats only part of it.

Please post the rest. If its as funny as this is, go for it.
Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: fuzeman on June 01, 2009, 10:44:38 PM
Had an SR-71 do an overflight at the opening of a baseball all star game in Oakland CA. I was returning from buying some beer at a stand.
L O U D and I almost spilled the beer.
Title: Re: got this in an email
Post by: 1sum41 on June 01, 2009, 10:49:23 PM
Please post the rest. If its as funny as this is, go for it.
its not all funny most of it is a story of this dudes time flying the sr71