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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: fscott on January 09, 2001, 11:19:00 PM
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Seems the perk system is causing a ruckus at this point. Especially about the F4U1c. I suggested a very easy implementation to help balance gameplay and that was rationing of airplanes.
Simple plan: Ration (or limit) the number of upcoming super-uber-planes at each field. Then when a team-member gets shot down, his plane becomes available for the next who clicks on it in the hanger menu. Of course, all the non-perked planes would still be available in unlimited numbers as usual.
How hard would that have been to implement? It would balance the play because now, only a few of the monster uber planes would be available to fly, AND the big one....EVERYONE would get a chance to fly the plane he wants..of course when one becomes available at a certain field.
I guess good suggestions are usually overlooked as being too simple.
fscott
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And the obvious incentive to LAND your uber-plane and RESUPPLY it at the field. The advantages of the curent upcoming perk system, such as your incentive to take care of your plane, would still be prevelant in this easy to implement rationing plan. As long as you dont get killed in your f4u4, and you laned it and resupply, you could fly all day long.
Now tell me this isn't one heck of a plan?
fscott
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I'll say it again. I think that perk points should only be banked for that tour. This would allow for the build up of perk points to the point that late in the tour the late war hot rods would be showing up. This would make it sort of like a rolling plane set. You would have to scale the perk points accordingly. At the beginning of the next tour you would have to start over. The perked planes wouldn't have to have actually seen combat in WWII. They would have had to have been available before the war was over. Thus planes like the P-51H and I think the Bearcat could be added. Then the point value for each vehicle could be scaled according to rarity and flight performance. This would make a plane like the chog much cheaper than a 262 and a 262 cheaper than a 163 for example.
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If you go by including only planes that saw acctual combat, you are not giving a fair chance to everyone who doesn't fly LW. It was said before on this message board, at the end of the war Germany was under such a condition that every test plane that flew, could have been flying a combat sortie as Russian and USAF fighters were all over the place. At the same time, British, Russian and USSAF new planes were tested in terretories that were very far from front lines. IMHO Allied late war planes that just happened to miss WW2 have as much right to belong to the perk system, as any LW plane such as Ta152 or He162 (or whatever the designation of that plane was - wooden airframe with a jet engine on top).
mx22
Originally posted by Jimdandy:
I'll say it again. I think that perk points should only be banked for that tour. This would allow for the build up of perk points to the point that late in the tour the late war hot rods would be showing up. This would make it sort of like a rolling plane set. You would have to scale the perk points accordingly. At the beginning of the next tour you would have to start over. The perked planes wouldn't have to have actually seen combat in WWII. They would have had to have been available before the war was over. Thus planes like the P-51H and I think the Bearcat could be added. Then the point value for each vehicle could be scaled according to rarity and flight performance. This would make a plane like the chog much cheaper than a 262 and a 262 cheaper than a 163 for example.
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Originally posted by mx22:
If you go by including only planes that saw acctual combat, you are not giving a fair chance to everyone who doesn't fly LW. It was said before on this message board, at the end of the war Germany was under such a condition that every test plane that flew, could have been flying a combat sortie as Russian and USAF fighters were all over the place. At the same time, British, Russian and USSAF new planes were tested in terretories that were very far from front lines. IMHO Allied late war planes that just happened to miss WW2 have as much right to belong to the perk system, as any LW plane such as Ta152 or He162 (or whatever the designation of that plane was - wooden airframe with a jet engine on top).
mx22
I thought I said "wouldn't" have had to have seen actual combat. Read it.
Btw I could care less about someone who is to uptight to fly the plane of a different country. I happen to fly the P-38 a lot. That doesn't mean I would be stupid enough to deny myself the opportunity to fly a perked German plane if I wanted to. Anyone who would do that on a game like this is a bit obsessive. I can't understand anyone who wont grab the appropriate plane for the job. MA isn't an Axis and Allies arena. I can understand squads that fly a certain plane most of the time, it's a lot easier I think to wing a plane of the same type. But to say that people that fly a certain countries plane all the time would be denied because say they only had the 262 and not the P-80, Vampire, and the Kikka is ridiculous IMO.
[This message has been edited by Jimdandy (edited 01-10-2001).]
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Sorry I misread there (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
I didn't say I won't fly German perks, but I would have rather spend my points on other planes that I like more.
mx22
Originally posted by Jimdandy:
I thought I said "wouldn't" have had to have seen actual combat. Read it.
Btw I could care less about someone who is to uptight to fly the plane of a different country. I happen to fly the P-38 a lot. That doesn't mean I would be stupid enough to deny myself the opportunity to fly a perked German plane if I wanted to. Anyone who would do that on a game like this is a bit obsessive. I can't understand anyone who wont grab the appropriate plane for the job. MA isn't an Axis and Allies arena. I can understand squads that fly a certain plane most of the time, it's a lot easier I think to wing a plane of the same type. But to say that people that fly a certain countries plane all the time would be denied because say they only had the 262 and not the P-80, Vampire, and the Kikka is ridiculous IMO.
[This message has been edited by Jimdandy (edited 01-10-2001).]
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Originally posted by mx22:
Sorry I misread there (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
I didn't say I won't fly German perks, but I would have rather spend my points on other planes that I like more.
mx22
I understand mx22. I think that it will just take some time for them to get more planes. The 262, for example, is being modeled first because it was the first operational and is well know. I'm sure more are otw.
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"I think that perk points should only be banked for that tour. This would allow for the build up of perk points to the point that late in the tour the late war hot rods would be showing up. This would make it sort of like a rolling plane set. You would have to scale the perk points accordingly. At the beginning of the next tour you would have to start over."
This sound good, but I wouldn't delete all points, only points above a certain number (mayby = to the most expensive perk plane), thereby allowing not so regular fliers to also have the possibility to eventually trying out the perks.
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Originally posted by LLv34_Snefens:
This sound good, but I wouldn't delete all points, only points above a certain number (maybe = to the most expensive perk plane), thereby allowing not so regular fliers to also have the possibility to eventually trying out the perks.
Good point. Maybe everyone could start with a base line amount, 75% of what's needed to by the most expensive plane. Then make it so you can't spend perks until the last half of the tour or something like that. The perk planes just wouldn't be enabled tell the last half or maybe even the last 1/3. That is one thing I'm beginning to see. I think everyone should have a shot at the perk planes. The problem I see with eternally banking points is that eventually everyone will be in the air in a perk plane if they wait long enough. We will just have to see I guess. Thanks for the input.