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Title: Best car
Post by: zack1234 on June 04, 2009, 10:38:34 AM
who makes the best cars? Reiner thinks it is America :lol
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: USRanger on June 04, 2009, 10:46:44 AM
(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8404/sign0094.gif) (http://img188.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sign0094.gif)
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: smokey23 on June 04, 2009, 10:49:56 AM
Rolls Royce all hand made with no plastic dashboards and window cranks great attention to detail.
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: texastc316 on June 04, 2009, 10:50:00 AM
volvo
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: waystin2 on June 04, 2009, 10:51:33 AM
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm134/waystin2/OReally.gif)
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: slimmer on June 04, 2009, 11:11:10 AM
waystin  im lmao  :rofl
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Sunka on June 04, 2009, 11:20:59 AM
who makes the best cars? Reiner thinks it is America :lol
Try the O club
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: CountD90 on June 04, 2009, 11:25:51 AM
GERMAN!!! Gotta love Porsche, BMW, Audi, and VW.
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: caldera on June 04, 2009, 11:29:05 AM
It's a three way tie between Yugo, TATA and AMC.
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: shppr01 on June 04, 2009, 12:35:36 PM
Sherman or tiger take ur pike !! no one will cut youi off  :lol
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: CAP1 on June 04, 2009, 01:47:22 PM
GERMAN!!! Gotta love Porsche, BMW, Audi, and VW.

well....1 outta 4 aint too bad.........
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: redwing7 on June 04, 2009, 02:40:33 PM
Volvo

I supply to Volvo...try again.

It's a three way tie between Yugo, TATA and AMC.

AMC, a pacer with the licorice dispenser....need i say more.
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Furball on June 04, 2009, 02:58:11 PM
Well, the biased part of me says the UK, because our prestige cars are awesome.

Rolls-Royce

(http://www.dennigcars.com/rolls_royce/phantom/Rolls_Royce_Phantom_100EX_US_Version.jpg)

Bentley

(http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/100-greatest/03-large/16-bentley-continental-gt.jpg)

Aston Martin

(http://www.cargurus.com/images/2009/02/04/18/17/pic-51431.gif)

(http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2007/2007-Aston-Martin-V8-Vantage-Roadster-Side-Angle-Snow-1280x960.jpg)

(http://cyanatrendland.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/aston-martin-one77.jpg)

(http://www.cartype.com/pics/5606/full/aston-martin_one-77_ad_08.jpeg)

(could carry on posting aston photos all day!)

All hand produced and beautiful.

They are pretty unrealistically expensive and not made in quantity though...


Which makes me say Germany, because they make the best cars at all price ranges.
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: uptown on June 04, 2009, 06:16:03 PM
Mopar baby!(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/1970-Plymouth-Cuda-ro-fa-sy-1152x86.jpg)
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: CAP1 on June 04, 2009, 06:20:15 PM
chevy

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa135/1LTCAP/AVIATION032.jpg)


or ford!!

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa135/1LTCAP/ippie1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Maverick on June 04, 2009, 06:24:24 PM
Define your criteria for what you mean by "best car".
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: FYB on June 04, 2009, 06:45:29 PM
Best Car, huh... ALL ITALIAN! Ferrari, Bugatti and Lamborghini.
(http://www.coches-es.com/noticias/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/ferrari_aurea_01.jpeg)
^ You can't say this doesn't beat your Bently, Rolls-Royce or Aston Martin.
Or this... They beat anything.
(http://imadivaprincess.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/bugatti_veyron_hires.jpg[/mg]
BAM!
[img]http://www.carpages.co.uk/lamborghini/lamborghini_images/lamborghini-gallardo-superleggera-01-03-07.jpg)
OWNED!

Italian cars... Because I'm Italian.

-FYB
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Masherbrum on June 04, 2009, 06:47:49 PM
Best Car, huh... ALL ITALIAN! Ferrari, Bugatti, and Lamborghini.

(http://imadivaprincess.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/bugatti_veyron_hires.jpg)
BAM!


Italian cars... Because I'm Italian.

-FYB

Bugatti is French.   You pwned yourself!
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Masherbrum on June 04, 2009, 06:58:24 PM
Easy.   It laid the Foundation for many things applied in racing and still used to this day:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Porsche_959_34_rear.jpg)


Best Looking?   Even easier.

(http://www.supercars.net/carpics/691/1968_Ford_GT40Mk1Gulf2.jpg)
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: FYB on June 04, 2009, 08:14:21 PM
Bugatti is French.   You pwned yourself!
Bugatti is Italian...

-FYB
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Masherbrum on June 04, 2009, 08:56:00 PM
Bugatti is Italian...

-FYB

The Founder was Italian, the Company has always been in France (even with said Founder).   
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: FYB on June 04, 2009, 09:04:41 PM
The Founder was Italian, the Company has always been in France (even with said Founder).   
Okay... What ever floats your boat.  :)

-FYB
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Motherland on June 04, 2009, 09:14:02 PM
According to Wikipedia, Bugatti was founded by Ettore Bugatti in Molsheim, Alsace, Germany in 1909, which became a part of France after WWI. It 'failed' before WWII and was sold to Hispano-Suiza (another French company...) in 1963. Today cars under the Bugatti name today are produced by Volkswagen AG. Hardly an Italian car.
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: FYB on June 04, 2009, 09:19:06 PM
According to Wikipedia, Bugatti was founded by Ettore Bugatti in Molsheim, Alsace, Germany in 1909, which became a part of France after WWI. It 'failed' before WWII and was sold to Hispano-Suiza (another French company...) in 1963. Today cars under the Bugatti name today are produced by Volkswagen AG. Hardly an Italian car.
He was born in Italy though.  :D Go Italian Power!

-FYB
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Anodizer on June 04, 2009, 09:31:49 PM

(http://sad.rv.ua/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dacia_1300.jpg)
Dacia 1300 was the only car made in Romania for much of the cold war..
It is a copy of the Renault 12..  Both uncles from my mom's side still have their
original 72 Dacia 1300's all decked out with drop down mini-fan (what air conditioning?)
and single station AM Radio tuned to the State's radio frequency..  Many are still running today
even without parts available as some guys just manufacture them(horribly) or use some type of
Afro-American engineering..  Great cars....  Very economical...  Was it the best?  It was the best
for Romania at that time...

Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Masherbrum on June 04, 2009, 10:05:07 PM
According to Wikipedia, Bugatti was founded by Ettore Bugatti in Molsheim, Alsace, Germany in 1909, which became a part of France after WWI. It 'failed' before WWII and was sold to Hispano-Suiza (another French company...) in 1963. Today cars under the Bugatti name today are produced by Volkswagen AG. Hardly an Italian car.

The Veyron is made by Bugatti in France.   As was the EB110 in 95.
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Vudak on June 05, 2009, 07:42:59 AM
Define your criteria for what you mean by "best car".

1.  Proven reliability
2.  Decent gas mileage (having previously owned a V8 SHO, I define this as 20-25+)
3.  Anything but "American."

Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Furball on June 05, 2009, 08:23:50 AM
He was born in Italy though.  :D Go Italian Power!

-FYB

You claim to be Italian, i bet you were not born in Italy, just like the Bugatti you claim to be Italian was also not born in Italy? ;) :D

Most F1 teams are based in England, current best being:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brawn_GP

Or how about Thrust SSC, also a British car?

(http://www.alhsa.com/forum/imgcache/21564.imgcache)

However, i still maintain that the Germans make the best cars.
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: CAP1 on June 05, 2009, 08:31:28 AM
not allowed american?


the ac cobra 427.  :D

it's british, but ford(shelby actually) took it and fixed it.
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Curval on June 05, 2009, 11:17:12 AM
Best Car, huh... ALL ITALIAN!

Beat me to it.

I was fortunate enough to be able to drive a Ferrari owned by a friend of mine (He aslo has two Aston Martin's btw...a DB 9 (in Florida) and a Vanquish (in London)) recently. 

...here ya go, I can even prove it:

(http://i44.tinypic.com/wunmux.jpg)

If I only had a couple of hundred thousand, plus a few more for maintenance, free I'd own one in a heart-beat.
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 05, 2009, 11:52:20 AM
not allowed american?


the ac cobra 427.  :D

it's british, but ford(shelby actually) took it and fixed it.

 :lol Make sure Carol Shelby doesn't catch you, the only time I saw him seriously anoyed he stated : "There's no such thing as an AC Cobra!" :t
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: zack1234 on June 05, 2009, 12:48:47 PM
Hurrah! nice to see blokes in US still have balls and are into cars and not getting in touch with there feminine side :rock
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Swoop on June 05, 2009, 01:36:16 PM
:lol Make sure Carol Shelby doesn't catch you, the only time I saw him seriously anoyed he stated : "There's no such thing as an AC Cobra!" :t

Well he's wrong.

Title: Re: Best car
Post by: CAP1 on June 05, 2009, 01:48:00 PM
:lol Make sure Carol Shelby doesn't catch you, the only time I saw him seriously anoyed he stated : "There's no such thing as an AC Cobra!" :t

he's wrong..and i know he brought that combo to us.

but the fact is.....AC Ace. i believe AC motorcars was going under? he brought that body to the US, plunked in a 260, then 289, then the good lole 427 side oiler......thus was born the AC Cobra 427 SC.
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: akusher on June 05, 2009, 01:56:02 PM
Don't know how you define best, but the one I dream of owning, some day, would have to be this:

(http://motorbeam.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/novitec_rosso_ferrari_599_gtb.jpg)

Or any of its modern brethren...
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Skuzzy on June 05, 2009, 02:54:34 PM
he's wrong..and i know he brought that combo to us.

but the fact is.....AC Ace. i believe AC motorcars was going under? he brought that body to the US, plunked in a 260, then 289, then the good lole 427 side oiler......thus was born the AC Cobra 427 SC.

Actually it was a Ford Cobra 427 SC.  There was not much left from the AC once Ford/Shelby got through opening the fender wells, adding a new suspension, redesigning the body pan, new steering, electrical and so on.  The only parts left from the original AC it was derived from, were the outer door skins.

In order to differentiate Cobras today, the "AC" tag is used to refer to the original Cobras.  It was never part of the official name.

AC Bristol made the Ace.  Working from memory here, but I recall the Bristol Ace was raced at Lemans in 1957 and 1958.  With front wheel disc brakes and a 4 speed transmission, they were pretty much a state-of-the-art racing machine.
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Masherbrum on June 05, 2009, 02:59:12 PM
Actually it was a Ford Cobra 427 SC.  There was not much left from the AC once Ford/Shelby got through opening the fender wells, adding a new suspension, redesigning the body pan, new steering, electrical and so on.  The only parts left from the original AC it was derived from, were the outer door skins.

In order to differentiate Cobras today, the "AC" tag is used to refer to the original Cobras.  It was never part of the official name.

AC Bristol made the Ace.  Working from memory here, but I recall the Bristol Ace was raced at Lemans in 1957 and 1958.  With front wheel disc brakes and a 4 speed transmission, they were pretty much a state-of-the-art racing machine.

Your memory is exceptional Skuzz.   
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Skuzzy on June 05, 2009, 03:11:21 PM
Your memory is exceptional Skuzz.   

Oh, I dunno about that.  When I worked in Ford's parts department, I was responsible for some parts reclamation, which included the Cobra's and 55-57 Thunderbirds.  I got to know the history of those cars pretty well.

I was also an avid race car fan.

How many people know what the original color of the Cobra was?  It was not blue. :)
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: CAP1 on June 05, 2009, 03:24:37 PM
Oh, I dunno about that.  When I worked in Ford's parts department, I was responsible for some parts reclamation, which included the Cobra's and 55-57 Thunderbirds.  I got to know the history of those cars pretty well.

I was also an avid race car fan.

How many people know what the original color of the Cobra was?  It was not blue. :)

IT wasn't natural, was it?

if not, then i don't know, as i thought blue was the original.

even in light of your post(which was very informative BTW) it can sort of be counted as not american.  :D

<<<<<<<<<<<<stretching the rules
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Skuzzy on June 05, 2009, 03:54:07 PM
Yellow (looked green due to pearl content in paint) with white stripes as shown at the auto show when Ford unveiled it.
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Masherbrum on June 05, 2009, 10:49:39 PM
Oh, I dunno about that.  When I worked in Ford's parts department, I was responsible for some parts reclamation, which included the Cobra's and 55-57 Thunderbirds.  I got to know the history of those cars pretty well.

I was also an avid race car fan.

How many people know what the original color of the Cobra was?  It was not blue. :)

Mk 1's were all Red weren't they?   
Title: Re: Best car
Post by: Skuzzy on June 06, 2009, 06:29:17 AM
The Cobra shown in the 1962 New York auto show was pearl yellow.  That is the first time the public got to see the car.  It had a 260V8 in it and was never raced.  It ended up being a test mule and was eventually parted out.  It would be the only time a Cobra was ever shown in that color.  It was hand built by Shelby in his shop.

The color of the car depended on if it was the race version, or the production version.  The small block race cars were red.  The big block race cars were blue. 

In the production version of the small block car, you had a choice of black or white.
The big block car allowed for rangoon red, gaurdsman blue, ivy green, white, and silver.

There were 13 original AC colors.
gaurdsman blue, dark blue, mist silver, ruby red, canary yellow, light green, rosso chiaro, pure white, mushroom, vineyard green, live oak, sand, and princess blue.