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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Anodizer on June 04, 2009, 12:06:23 PM
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We like to shop at Wild Oats (mainly for fish since they have a great selection) from time to time..
In all honestly, my opinion of gays is that as long as they keep to themselves and not try to push their
agenda on my family and I, I'm cool with it.. However, my stance on this has changed since our experience
yesterday evening.. Now that I've had some time to think about it, I'm royally pissed off..
Early yesterday evening, myself, my wife, and our 2 boys (1 and 4) were shopping there(Wild Oats)..
We strolled passed to guys holding hands.. Whatever.. That stuff doesn't phase me anymore..
Suddenly I hear these two guys start staring at us and then giggling like two little school girls in grade 1..
Then I hear the word "breeder" come from one of their mouths.... So, I go up to the guy and ask him what he said...
He starts to put on his "Diva" attitude and tells me "Yeah honey...You guys are breeders..." So, I ask what's it mean and
is it meant to be offensive...? He tells me it means that people such as my wife and myself are what are destroying
society as well as the Earth by having so many children.. So, I answer back with:
"well, friend....if there weren't breeders, there wouldn't be any of you around to admire each other.. so, yeah, maybe we
should ban breeders for awhile so no more of you are made...." :)
I'm sure he was expecting a completely different response or possibly a physical confrontation..
Anyone else experience anything like this????
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Nope but your right. Why dislike only two people when you can "hate millions". :huh
The same applies to Blacks, browns, whites, Asians, males, females, and members of every religious order.
Dont just hate or dislike the actual person. Be more economical and hate em by the million.
Baaaa. Ive worked around Gays for 25 years. As a whole they are law abiding, hard working, and cause very little problems for the Police.
Who is sleeping with who aint my business.
We like to shop at Wild Oats (mainly for fish since they have a great selection) from time to time..
In all honestly, my opinion of gays is that as long as they keep to themselves and not try to push their
agenda on my family and I, I'm cool with it.. However, my stance on this has changed since our experience
yesterday evening.. Now that I've had some time to think about it, I'm royally pissed off..
Early yesterday evening, myself, my wife, and our 2 boys (1 and 4) were shopping there(Wild Oats)..
We strolled passed to guys holding hands.. Whatever.. That stuff doesn't phase me anymore..
Suddenly I hear these two guys start staring at us and then giggling like two little school girls in grade 1..
Then I hear the word "breeder" come from one of their mouths.... So, I go up to the guy and ask him what he said...
He starts to put on his "Diva" attitude and tells me "Yeah honey...You guys are breeders..." So, I ask what's it mean and
is it meant to be offensive...? He tells me it means that people such as my wife and myself are what are destroying
society as well as the Earth by having so many children.. So, I answer back with:
"well, friend....if there weren't breeders, there wouldn't be any of you around to admire each other.. so, yeah, maybe we
should ban breeders for awhile so no more of you are made...." :)
I'm sure he was expecting a completely different response or possibly a physical confrontation..
Anyone else experience anything like this????
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Yes, I had an experience like that several years ago down on Lincoln Road (area of Miami). Got called Breeders and such. Basically just goes to show that doesn't matter who you are or how much you claimed to be oppressed or discriminated against that parts of your group to will do it others.
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I had a similar conversation with two absolutely straight single guys (and one of their girlfriend's) at lunch a few years back.
The three of them kept yammering on and on about how selfish I was because I had a child and my wife was pregnant with our second. "Breeders" and "over population of the planet" were the main reasons cited.
The interesting part of that is that one of the guys is now expecting his second child (his was the girlfriend who was at the lunch...and who is still childless...which is suprising since she sleeps around ALOT (just got divorced because of that). The other guy's wife (he married after the lunch) just had their first baby.
Good response to the gay guys though.
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Nope but your right. Why dislike only two people when you can "hate millions". :huh
The same applies to Blacks, browns, whites, Asians, males, females, and members of every religious order.
Dont just hate or dislike the actual person. Be more economical and hate em by the million.
Baaaa. Ive worked around Gays for 25 years. As a whole they are law abiding, hard working, and cause very little problems for the Police.
Who is sleeping with who aint my business.
I kind of see things the same way... Gays don't bug me... They keep their houses and neighborhoods nice/clean/safe..
But this comment from these two idiots set me off a bit.. Especially when it was meant for us to hear as opposed to
kept between themselves..
I've done a bit of research on this subject and found another weird term.. "Millitant Homosexuals"..
Apparently they have contempt for heteros especially if they have children.....?? :huh
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Shoulda just told them that with their inability to reproduce, Darwin had selected their type for extinction. Survival of the fittest and all that.
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Tell em about it, I live in Salt Lake City, there's breeders everywhere here :(
What bugs me is breeding if you can't properly support your kids. If you are able to financially support them, as well as provide proper attention, love and education to each, then it's cool with me.
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Any group, or what would be called a group, is going to have their fair share of bad acts. Your original post kinda smeared of lumping all gay people together.
Honestly I dont know why anyone would hate any kind of group. I'm glad your not one Anadizer but there are plenty out there. Just ignore them man. Even their so called "contempt" is most likely of themselves that they direct at others.
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I have a name i could have called them back! :mad:
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OK - the two guys in the OP were prats. That's far from being a gay-only trait.
That said, I have no kids and used to get quite annoyed at being taxed for schools etc and watching colleagues at work use their kids as an excuse for working half the hours us without kids work. However, here's the reality - its those kids that are going to be paying for medicare etc when we're all retired and - to be honest we probably need more of them to support all of us.
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Shoulda just told them that with their inability to reproduce, Darwin had selected their type for extinction. Survival of the fittest and all that.
There is a lot of truth to that.
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Shoulda just told them that with their inability to reproduce, Darwin had selected their type for extinction. Survival of the fittest and all that.
giving the amount of über cretin produced by heterosexual ... I wonder why we can't have hermaphroditism
(in this case I'll make love with someone I truly love :p yummy !)
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giving the amount of über cretin produced by heterosexual ... I wonder why we can't have hermaphroditism
(in this case I'll make love with someone I truly love :p yummy !)
That would solve all the dating problems.........but dam I would feel ackward turning myself down, I'm sure I'd run into myself sooner or later and have to make up some story........Oh well, I guess even that would have it's own set of problems... :lol
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giving the amount of über cretin produced by heterosexual ... I wonder why we can't have hermaphroditism
(in this case I'll make love with someone I truly love :p yummy !)
haha that is just plain wrong :D
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We like to shop at Wild Oats (mainly for fish since they have a great selection) from time to time..
In all honestly, my opinion of gays is that as long as they keep to themselves and not try to push their
agenda on my family and I, I'm cool with it.. However, my stance on this has changed since our experience
yesterday evening.. Now that I've had some time to think about it, I'm royally pissed off..
Early yesterday evening, myself, my wife, and our 2 boys (1 and 4) were shopping there(Wild Oats)..
We strolled passed to guys holding hands.. Whatever.. That stuff doesn't phase me anymore..
Suddenly I hear these two guys start staring at us and then giggling like two little school girls in grade 1..
Then I hear the word "breeder" come from one of their mouths.... So, I go up to the guy and ask him what he said...
He starts to put on his "Diva" attitude and tells me "Yeah honey...You guys are breeders..." So, I ask what's it mean and
is it meant to be offensive...? He tells me it means that people such as my wife and myself are what are destroying
society as well as the Earth by having so many children.. So, I answer back with:
"well, friend....if there weren't breeders, there wouldn't be any of you around to admire each other.. so, yeah, maybe we
should ban breeders for awhile so no more of you are made...." :)
I'm sure he was expecting a completely different response or possibly a physical confrontation..
Anyone else experience anything like this????
Idiots.
The primary purpose of any living thing on this planet is to continue it's species. People, animals, fish, plants, trees...whatever. The sole purpose is to procreate and continue. Dang straight I'm a breeder and proud of it. What have those guys accomplished for the human species?
The silver lining to this gray cloud is that each gay male is one less competitor for an available female. :aok
I, like yourself, do not have a problem with them unless they say or do something stupid. Then its time to fire back like you did or give em a good beat down. :rock
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So heterosexuals are called "breeders". I suppose the reverse side of that is to refer to homosexuals as genetic dead ends. Darwin WAS correct as survival of the species belongs to those that propagate it.
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:rofl :rofl :rofl
I can't believe this is being taken so seriously. "Breeders" is a joke (one that is not meant to be offensive). It hardly sounds like you were harassed, more like the guy was being sarcastic and ribbing you... but in fairness, I wasn't there and didn't hear how it went down.
Sorry you had a bad time at the Wild Oats though... used to love shopping there. (we don't have them here in DC)
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You should have known they were in there when you saw their matching Spit 16's out front.
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You should have known they were in there when you saw their matching Spit 16's out front.
Bruv and Kazaa can be so rude some times!
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I feel ashamed at you. If two gays call you breeder, either you keep walking or you give him a hell of a punch to the face. Giving them a cruddy speech will only get them to giggle like idiots more.
-FYB
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You should have known they were in there when you saw their matching Spit 16's out front.
:rofl :rofl
Nice..... :rock
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I feel ashamed at you. If two gays call you breeder, either you keep walking or you give him a hell of a punch to the face. Giving them a cruddy speech will only get them to giggle like idiots more.
-FYB
A punch in the face would've landed me in jail for a hate crime.... Walking away wasn't really acceptable to me either as these two bufoons were obviously part of the
militant homosexual movement that I read about a few months ago on Drudge..
By the way... I still don't understand how militant and homosexual can be used with one another...?? :huh
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Truth be tolled. But you're not me and I'm not you. I would of gladly gone to jail in exchange to punch that gay out of his homosexual state.
-FYB
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Truth be tolled. But you're not me and I'm not you. I would of gladly gone to jail in exchange to punch that gay out of his homosexual state.
-FYB
Yo, brah, you're pretty hard. *insert old rolleyes emoticon*
Believe it or not, doing something which would spun into a hate crime is probably the worst thing you could have done, not even considering the legal consequences. Not to mention that's a pretty rash thing to do over an 'insult' that doesn't even make any sense. I've never been in the situation so I couldn't speak from experience, but I couldn't imagine doing anything but laughing my arse off.
By the way... I still don't understand how militant and homosexual can be used with one another...?? :huh
:lol
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Just ignore them. For christ's sake they are smoking poles and biting pillows. Isn't missing out on the finer, <ahem> qualities of a women punishment enough. :)
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Yo, brah, you're pretty hard. *insert old rolleyes emoticon*
Believe it or not, doing something which would spun into a hate crime is probably the worst thing you could have done, not even considering the legal consequences. Not to mention that's a pretty rash thing to do over an 'insult' that doesn't even make any sense. I've never been in the situation so I couldn't speak from experience, but I couldn't imagine doing anything but laughing my arse off.
:lol
I don't hate them. I dislike when they talk and act as if they have higher rights then someone or do more than someone else.
-FYB
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I don't hate them. I dislike when they talk and act as if they have higher rights then someone or do more than someone else.
-FYB
It's not about hate. It's about being committing a crime against a minority group.
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It's not about hate. It's about being committing a crime against a minority group.
I wouldn't punch him or them just because they're gay, they must of, or had to have done something pretty bad. Calling me straight in an insulting way wouldn't of been a punching and kicking situation. But, most likely i would of kept walking... Although, that would of changed if he would have kept saying it.
-FYB
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Tell em about it, I live in Salt Lake City, there's breeders everywhere here :(
What bugs me is breeding if you can't properly support your kids. If you are able to financially support them, as well as provide proper attention, love and education to each, then it's cool with me.
As in the Octomom?
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giving the amount of über cretin produced by heterosexual ... I wonder why we can't have hermaphroditism
(in this case I'll make love with someone I truly love :p yummy !)
:rofl :aok :lol :rofl
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We like to shop at Wild Oats (mainly for fish since they have a great selection) from time to time..
In all honestly, my opinion of gays is that as long as they keep to themselves and not try to push their
agenda on my family and I, I'm cool with it.. However, my stance on this has changed since our experience
yesterday evening.. Now that I've had some time to think about it, I'm royally pissed off..
Early yesterday evening, myself, my wife, and our 2 boys (1 and 4) were shopping there(Wild Oats)..
We strolled passed to guys holding hands.. Whatever.. That stuff doesn't phase me anymore..
Suddenly I hear these two guys start staring at us and then giggling like two little school girls in grade 1..
Then I hear the word "breeder" come from one of their mouths.... So, I go up to the guy and ask him what he said...
He starts to put on his "Diva" attitude and tells me "Yeah honey...You guys are breeders..." So, I ask what's it mean and
is it meant to be offensive...? He tells me it means that people such as my wife and myself are what are destroying
society as well as the Earth by having so many children.. So, I answer back with:
"well, friend....if there weren't breeders, there wouldn't be any of you around to admire each other.. so, yeah, maybe we
should ban breeders for awhile so no more of you are made...." :)
I'm sure he was expecting a completely different response or possibly a physical confrontation..
Anyone else experience anything like this????
their orientation is irrelevant. it sounds as if they were pissed about something, and regsrdless of such, they'd have had something to say to anyone that walked by.
in all honesty, your best response would've been to simply ignore them. all you did was give them a little pleasure by letting them see that they upset you......
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A punch in the face would've landed me in jail for a hate crime.... Walking away wasn't really acceptable to me either as these two bufoons were obviously part of the
militant homosexual movement that I read about a few months ago on Drudge..
By the way... I still don't understand how militant and homosexual can be used with one another...?? :huh
because not all gays are pansies?
there very probably are gays around you that you have no clue are gay........
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because not all gays are pansies?
there very probably are gays around you that you have no clue are gay........
Good.....I would rather not know...... :D
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See Rule #6
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:rofl :rofl :rofl
I can't believe this is being taken so seriously. "Breeders" is a joke (one that is not meant to be offensive). It hardly sounds like you were harassed, more like the guy was being sarcastic and ribbing you... but in fairness, I wasn't there and didn't hear how it went down.
Sadly, lunatics like these exist and are quite serious about it. (http://www.vhemt.org) (link, click text.)
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What have those guys accomplished for the human species?
Pissing off Anodizer at a grocery store?
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Ive had uncomfortable encounters with gay people, but 99% of them are cool. One of my best friends from school is gay and we are still good friends. Ive also had uncomfortable encounters with straight wimmin but that does not make me dislike straight wimmin.
They are people whatever they prefer as partners and they are good and bad just as us regular boring straight people. I bet some day Anodizer you will meet a woman who think people have too many kids and it wont turn you against straight wimmin :) Maybe those two gay people you met really was jealous and actually want to have a kid too, but cant and use what they told you as a defence mechanism to protect themselves from the harsh reality of never becoming a parent.
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See Rule #6
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See Rule #6
Ouch!!!!
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I used to be a bouncer at a gay bar, was a nice job, loved the fact that I didn't have to really worry about fights, people breaking bottles on tables and/or other people. I got hit on a couple of times but a quick "I'm straight but thanks anyway" and you were generally left alone. Now when I went over the other club in the building that was owned by the same gentleman and was mixed leaning toward more heteros. Woo buddy look out. People breaking bottles and sticking people with them, folks smuggling knives in and trying to cut folks, fights breaking out because so and so was looking at my girl. It was just disgusting behaviour coming from the dregs of society.
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See Rule #6
:O
:aok
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Wow...I bet if you measured all the incidents that will ever occur in your life, being heckled by gay people will probably not even top 1%...
Alot to get all riled up about I'd say mate
Tronsky
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their orientation is irrelevant. it sounds as if they were pissed about something, and regsrdless of such, they'd have had something to say to anyone that walked by.
in all honesty, your best response would've been to simply ignore them. all you did was give them a little pleasure by letting them see that they upset you......
I'm sorry but whenever someone gives the " your response should have been - or- what you should have done" always bugs me.
I find his response to have been appropriate given the situation. He didnt over-react, didn't get physical.
When some "person" makes a comment especially when my wife or kids are involved like the ones made to Anodizer I would want to know what he/she/it said and to clarify.
Why should these gay guys be allowed to make comments, insults, jokes whatever and everyone should just "walk away" ? To me your sending the wrong signal and basically saying that they can say whatever they want with no repercussions or consequences. In my experience when people are allowed to do this then they soon get it in their head that they can do "other" things without consequences which ussually get things escalated in a bad way.
I'm not saying anyone should escalate things but, when a guy gay or not makes a comment to or about my wife I'm going to put them in check, not necessarily in a physical sense but IMNSHO it is NOT OK to make insults or disparaging comments or jokes about my family . People should not be allowed to get away with saying or doing this stuff and if people dont let them know it then they will continue and possibly do worse.
Whether a guy is gay or straight you do not make comments about another mans wife just because a guy is gay doesnt absolve him of still showing respect.
sorry for the rant but I can not and will not fall into the PC/barney version of do nothing and let some A-hole say or do whatever they want because we shouldn't be confrontational and they have the right to say or do things while I should just "walk away".
I'll stop now cause this really does irritate the hell outta me.
and Cap1 im not in any way directing this at you. It just seems here lately I have been hearing more and more that people should walk away when some punk makes comments or insults to a stranger and we sould all just be understanding and walk away.
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Breeders????
Their right! OctoMom ruined it for all of us. Now we're screwed! :o
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I don't hate them. I dislike when they talk and act as if they have higher rights then someone or do more than someone else.
-FYB
Funny you should say that. They self belief in higher rights made them believe that their cause of "rights" equate it to the civil rights movement.
That is so flat out wrong. They have rights like everyone else and more. They have full retirement entitlements like everybody else, they have no problems getting employed and high paying jobs as well, they own property, ect....
I don't believe before the civil right movement, blacks were able to get these entitlements. So they can't equate one with the other.
Please, Gay marriage is not a civil rights issue.
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I'm sorry but whenever someone gives the " your response should have been - or- what you should have done" always bugs me.
I find his response to have been appropriate given the situation. He didnt over-react, didn't get physical.
When some "person" makes a comment especially when my wife or kids are involved like the ones made to Anodizer I would want to know what he/she/it said and to clarify.
Why should these gay guys be allowed to make comments, insults, jokes whatever and everyone should just "walk away" ? To me your sending the wrong signal and basically saying that they can say whatever they want with no repercussions or consequences. In my experience when people are allowed to do this then they soon get it in their head that they can do "other" things without consequences which ussually get things escalated in a bad way.
I'm not saying anyone should escalate things but, when a guy gay or not makes a comment to or about my wife I'm going to put them in check, not necessarily in a physical sense but IMNSHO it is NOT OK to make insults or disparaging comments or jokes about my family . People should not be allowed to get away with saying or doing this stuff and if people dont let them know it then they will continue and possibly do worse.
Whether a guy is gay or straight you do not make comments about another mans wife just because a guy is gay doesnt absolve him of still showing respect.
sorry for the rant but I can not and will not fall into the PC/barney version of do nothing and let some A-hole say or do whatever they want because we shouldn't be confrontational and they have the right to say or do things while I should just "walk away".
I'll stop now cause this really does irritate the hell outta me.
and Cap1 im not in any way directing this at you. It just seems here lately I have been hearing more and more that people should walk away when some punk makes comments or insults to a stranger and we sould all just be understanding and walk away.
understood.......i didn't offer that advice due to their orientation. i offered that advice, because no matter WHO it is making that kind of remark, what they're looking for/expecting is a reaction. any reaction. by turning around and confronting them, they were given that reaction, and probably happy because of it.
now, had he continued along as if he hadn't heard it.....that would've taken their fun away, and very probably pissed them off more than he already was to have heard it.
that is all i was trying to say............
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understood.......i didn't offer that advice due to their orientation. i offered that advice, because no matter WHO it is making that kind of remark, what they're looking for/expecting is a reaction. any reaction. by turning around and confronting them, they were given that reaction, and probably happy because of it.
now, had he continued along as if he hadn't heard it.....that would've taken their fun away, and very probably pissed them off more than he already was to have heard it.
that is all i was trying to say............
I hear ya. I just didnt want you to think I was coming down on you or anything
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I have no problem with gay's, in fact my brother is gay and I have absolutely no problem with it, if it makes him happy I'm happy, but what you described there Anodizer was just wrong, it's like reverse homophobia, I guess it would be heterophobia, like you said, if it wasn't for all us breeders the human race would come to an end, so if that guy was serious about what he said, he can't be all that bright.
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You should have responded to the "breeders" comment with
"Yep. Most NORMAL people are. And we are, cause you cant." then smiled and walked away
I have no problems with gays so long as they arent in my face with their showing of affection. Or dont make a play on me.
Way I've been raised is that its normally not right to ridicule someones birth defect.
In your case I'd make an exception.
I have a next door neighbor who is gay. There were two but they split up. Now there is only one.
Nice enough guy. doesnt bother anyone. In fact I rarely see him or saw them even though our back yards butt up against one another.
The only downside is one time when I was doing work for his mother and his sister started telling me why they split up.
Seemed he wanted kids and the other one didnt. And she went on for 20 min ridiculing the other guy for not wanting kids.
I politely listened but was thinking to myself.
"Not only is this none of my business. I'm not interested and I really dont need to know this."
Seems some gays want to be "breeders" too
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It's not about sexual alignment.
It's about respect for those around you.
Especially a family unit.
The two jerks were demanding adult supervision and possibly a career decision by insulting a family.
Generalities don't apply.
Act a jerk to my family, the response may be more than you bargain for.
-GE aka Frank (verbal insult is Assault, at the very least you can call the cops right there and arrange adult supervision)
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Who is sleeping with who aint my business.
It's not till they are promoting it in public and carrying signs and such. If they want to be that way then be that way. I don't want to hear about it. If I have to see or hear about it then they are trying to make it my business.
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It's not till they are promoting it in public and carrying signs and such. If they want to be that way then be that way. I don't want to hear about it. If I have to see or hear about it then they are trying to make it my business.
Based on Shuffler's conclusion (I agree with):
I would argue against gay marriage because this would legitimize a couple to show public affection as stright couples do. I would not want to see that and especially my children. This would open the door for adoption of children since they are "married." The buck should stop here IMO.
Traditional definition of marriage should not be changed to accomodate a small minority. Civil unions are properly called for what they are.
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Based on Shuffler's conclusion (I agree with):
I would argue against gay marriage because this would legitimize a couple to show public affection as stright couples do. I would not want to see that and especially my children. This would open the door for adoption of children since they are "married." The buck should stop here IMO.
Traditional definition of marriage should not be changed to accomodate a small minority. Civil unions are properly called for what they are.
in some areas, i believe they already can adopt.
i have no issues with them. i have no issues with anyone, until they do something to force me to.
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in some areas, i believe they already can adopt.
i have no issues with them. i have no issues with anyone, until they do something to force me to.
Yes, I heard that in some areas as well. But it would be more widely acceptable because of marriage.
I just have a problem with that for the childs sake.
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Yes, I heard that in some areas as well. But it would be more widely acceptable because of marriage.
I just have a problem with that for the childs sake.
well, yes and no.
most of them tend to be as responsible as straight couples, if not more so.
should they adopt a child at a very young age, then as that child grows, to him/her, their family will be "normal"
for instance........we(my brother and i) never knew our dad. he bolted when i was 2. mom never dated after him as far as i know. to us, a single parent family was normal, and it was "different" to us when either of us would go to a friends house, and they had both parents there.
like i said..........i treat everyone equally, to the best of my ability....at least until they start trying to force things on me...........
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Don't know if it has been said as I stopped reading when it got to the normal bollocks of here, but that was a great response and you totally owned that situation. I can just see the mouth drop open and the hand held up against the cheek and chin with the astonished look of OMG I just got royally dissed by a breeder :lol :lol
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See Rule #6
I think that is the first time I have been hit with the mighty edit.
Someone, hold me... I tremble. :uhoh
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I dont know why anyone would hate any kind of group.
Unfortuantly human beings have a great tendaceny to judge people that are different to them, or not like whats different.
If I ever win the lottery this is what I want to do,
Live on a small tropical island with a little boat to spend the days fishing during the day and lazying around, live in a little house on the beach with the nearest human about 10 miles away, not including my fiancee. or somewhere in the mountains minus the fishing boat
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I think that is the first time I have been hit with the mighty edit.
Someone, hold me... I tremble. :uhoh
I lost my edit virginity this week too.
*holds Delirium in a completely manly and totally un-ghey, pro-breeder way*
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I thought the answer to the remark was good. The remark was rude, the answer was good.
I know a couple of those pompous gays myself, and remarks like that always makes me want to do something baaaad :t