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Title: Seek drumming advice
Post by: lefty320 on June 05, 2009, 02:23:29 PM
To all you drummers. I seek a little advice.

  I have a 5 piece astro drums set. (Astro is a cheap brand that doesn't know a crash from a ride) I got a 18 inch Pitch Black crash, A 22 inch tama ride. And 14 inch hi hats. I have 13, 14 and 16 inch toms, with Remo empereror heads. The problem being that they have a high sustain. I have studio rings on all of them, but they still ring too much. Any recomendations on some heads that have less sustain?
Title: Re: Seek drumming advice
Post by: AAJagerX on June 05, 2009, 02:37:27 PM
Don't know all that much about them, but my drummer said he had the same prob with Remo's.  Not sure what he's using now, but it def. helped to get away from the Remo brand.
Title: Re: Seek drumming advice
Post by: Masherbrum on June 05, 2009, 02:41:46 PM
I used Remo heads on a DW kit for the 14 years I owned it.   I'd try a different line within Remo.   
Title: Re: Seek drumming advice
Post by: lefty320 on June 05, 2009, 03:27:11 PM
Ok thanks for the advice.  :salute
Title: Re: Seek drumming advice
Post by: Waffle on June 05, 2009, 03:46:27 PM
We always used to stick a folded napkin / cotton balls on the head with gaff/duct tape depending on the room. It worked in a pinch. :)
Title: Re: Seek drumming advice
Post by: Spikes on June 05, 2009, 04:14:29 PM
Waffle's idea works wonders, that's what I do with my Remos.
Title: Re: Seek drumming advice
Post by: Masherbrum on June 05, 2009, 11:14:07 PM
Ok thanks for the advice.  :salute

These are what I used and never had the "sustain" problems.

http://www.remo.com/portal/products/3/8/50/158/co_ambassador.html (http://www.remo.com/portal/products/3/8/50/158/co_ambassador.html)
Title: Re: Seek drumming advice
Post by: Xtrepid on June 06, 2009, 08:01:47 AM
Check Attack Heads  :aok
Title: Re: Seek drumming advice
Post by: lefty320 on June 06, 2009, 11:07:34 AM
I have a friend who has these heads: http://store.daddario.com/category/148374/Hydraulic_Glass,_Blue,_%26amp;_Black

Sound pretty good, short sustain, take a beating and they're black.  :aok
Title: Re: Seek drumming advice
Post by: Gooss on June 06, 2009, 01:35:24 PM
A real drummer suggested I try Evans Hydraulics on my Tama mid-line fusion kit.  I like the sound, but I'm an old guy and wish I had my Ludwig set from the '70s and like a fatter sound.

Title: Re: Seek drumming advice
Post by: Slade on June 06, 2009, 03:12:32 PM
I routinely\weekly play in live situations.  For years I did most of what is mention in this thread (special heads, muting techniques etc.).  Assuming you have them tuned well, now I just let them ring.  The predominant frequency carries the strokes in an effective manner and in the mix I find the sound of the drum is rounder by NOT muting it.

Or I could say it this way, in muting it the depth of my notes was too thin in the overall context of the mix.  If you are playing Polkas this might be desired but in modern rock\funk bands I like the full note with those overtones.

Rock on,

Slade
Title: Re: Seek drumming advice
Post by: Masherbrum on June 06, 2009, 07:17:57 PM
I routinely\weekly play in live situations.  For years I did most of what is mention in this thread (special heads, muting techniques etc.).  Assuming you have them tuned well, now I just let them ring.  The predominant frequency carries the strokes in an effective manner and in the mix I find the sound of the drum is rounder by NOT muting it.

Or I could say it this way, in muting it the depth of my notes was too thin in the overall context of the mix.  If you are playing Polkas this might be desired but in modern rock\funk bands I like the full note with those overtones.

Rock on,

Slade

Same here, I never muted or deadened mine.   Just kept them in tune often and enjoyed the drums. 
Title: Re: Seek drumming advice
Post by: lefty320 on June 08, 2009, 09:20:08 AM
Thanks for the input.  :rock
Title: Re: Seek drumming advice
Post by: xNOVAx on June 08, 2009, 06:20:48 PM
Remo double-ply Pinstripe top, clear single ply Diplomat bottom.. Get them tuned right nothing sounds better IMO and you dont need any ghetto tape or cotton balls to dampen the sound..

 :rock