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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: AApache on June 07, 2009, 08:36:50 AM
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the ju86 was a pretty fast attack bomber also .it'd be cool to see that also
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the ju86 was a pretty fast attack bomber also
No, it was not.
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202mph is fast now?
The most interesting thing about the Ju86 were the extreme altitude versions, but I can't see anybody in AH taking the hour to an hour and a half to reach that altitude in order to try to delive ~250kg of bombs.
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Do17 or He111 would have a better impact on the game as far as german bombers go.
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AApache I'm fairly certian that the fighters in the top quarter for bomb load could exceed that or at least match it unless I am way off, high, AND drunk :D. And they go faster. that thing couldn't even take out ONE hanger unless it has formation option, and what you are describing dosen't sound worthy of a formation. I would probably rather go out in a Ju88; it has enough firepower to take out a hanger, I think it is faster, it is probably more manuverable, and I'm guessing you would survive longer in it.
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Besides, being a high-altitude recce-aircraft, it would only be used by the rooks :D
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The most interesting thing about the Ju86 were the extreme altitude versions, but I can't see anybody in AH taking the hour to an hour and a half to reach that altitude in order to try to delive ~250kg of bombs.
Not to mention the high altitude versions were photo recon so they wouldn't be carrying ord. If you think gaining alt is a drag, gain and have nothing to show for it but some pics. Well, pics after photo recon capabilities are modeled.
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If you want a recon aircraft then just use the bombsight on one of the other bombers and take a screen shot.
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Seems like some folks just look for something obscure, throw out incorrect info and hope it sticks. Do a bit of research first will ya? :aok
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Seems like some folks just look for something obscure, throw out incorrect info and hope it sticks. Do a bit of research first will ya? :aok
Agreed.
The Ju86 would work well in a Spanish Civil war and early Med arena. But we'd need a great many planes as well to make such arenas work. Also, tankers would hate the Spanish civil war--there is no way we'd get any armor for that arena soon and most likely it's be armed with MGs only.
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Ju86 was obsolete in the spanish civil war, and saw no WW2 service aside from minor export versions (Germans needed to make some $$$ to buy real planes!). The reason the 86 was made was the same the Fw190 was made: It used different engines, easing other production lines. The initial models had in-line diesel engines, consuming very little gas and giving enormous range. However, they were so ineffective for combat that the plane was obsolete as it started. They replaced the export version with single-row radial engines, but this didn't help very much in performance (more of a maint/fuel issue, supplies, logistics, etc). While it looks elegant in that 1920s/1930s style, WW2 material it ain't.
The Do17Z was obsolete before the BOB. They used them because they needed all they had, but they were scarce and withdrawn from combat afterward(the virtual Ju87 of level bombers). Fills no niche or hole in the planeset to request this thing, honestly.
He111 ftw!
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See Rule #4
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Ju86 was obsolete in the spanish civil war, and saw no WW2 service aside from minor export versions (Germans needed to make some $$$ to buy real planes!).
We don't need this plane, but no, it wasn't obsolete for Spain, it simply wasn't as good as the He-111.
It also did see WWII service as a German high alt photo recon plane with a pressurized cabin through the first couple -few war years and served on multiple fronts in that role until they developed fighters to shoot them down.
Do I want it?
No, not at this point. It was only useful as a photo recon plane, that's not a service you'd see here.
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See Rule #4
LOL looks like Krusty got his feelings hurt. :lol
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Larry, quit being paranoid.
Sakai, the Ju-86P barely even resembles the normal versions. Only a small number were operated, and they were special unarmed recon planes.
Not exactly WW2 material when considering "Ju86s" -- because "Ju86Ps" are totally different.
Ju86D-1 (I think, it's got the inline diesels):
(http://mcmsoftware.tripod.com/ju_86.jpg)
More common export version (I think most went to Sweden or Finland or something??):
(http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/j/Junkers%20Ju%2086.jpg)
Ju-86P (different fuselage, different engines, engine nacelles, no bombs, no guns, longer wings, different nose):
(http://1000aircraftphotos.com/401Squadron/Ju86P.jpg)
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Larry, quit being paranoid.
Sakai, the Ju-86P barely even resembles the normal versions. Only a small number were operated, and they were special unarmed recon planes.
Krusty:
I'm not arguing for the Ju-86's inclusion. Everything you noted here, I already stated.
Somewhere you've misinterpreted something.
Take care,
Sakai
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(http://1000aircraftphotos.com/401Squadron/Ju86P.jpg)
Looks kinda like the C47. Not a lot but bears a resembelance.
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Sorry Sakai, I believe I simply aimed my comment at the wrong person. :aok