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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: OmegaZS on June 08, 2009, 05:17:48 PM
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I WISH, that who ever has command of a CV should be able to prevent others from taking off from the CV.
That way, when a CV is moving into posistion to strike an enemy base, no one could up from it, causing the enemy base to start flashing, or making a "dar" bar appear, alerting the enemy to the CV's position.
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Raise your hand if you can see all the ways in which this can be abused.
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I do wish this was possible, but it would be abused. Can't think of any way to make it so it's not abused...There's plenty of times I'm sailing a CV to a base and some idiot ups and the CV gets sunk.
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his 1st post..... oh how cute.... :o
i think ill take camand of a CV right now... send it just as close to an enemy's field as possable.. and make sure they have ord up.... and well disable fighters from flying off the CV......
1st post my harry white &&&
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that is an excellent idea :aok but it most likely would be abused :frown:
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Nope.
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Why exactly does a 27,000 ton ship not set off the dar to begin with?
I suppose it's flying too low.
wrongway
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Well, you could make it so you can't launch only untill you have reached the final way point or a realistic range for your carrier for being seen. The only problem I could see with the final way point thing is someone could put hundreds of way points if he wanted two.
If you cant get this thing to work then just launch all fighters and strike aircraft once the idiot has upped; it won't be perfect but if you do it right away and are far enough away from the base then once all aircraft are airborne then you should head away from the aircraft, preferably still in the general direction of the base (if base is to the north then head ENE or WNW). The reason for doing this is that the enemy may think your tg is still near the aircraft. I have had REASONABLE succes with this tactic.
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I WISH, that who ever has command of a CV should be able to prevent others from taking off from the CV.
That way, when a CV is moving into posistion to strike an enemy base, no one could up from it, causing the enemy base to start flashing, or making a "dar" bar appear, alerting the enemy to the CV's position.
aaaaargh.
Raise your hand if you can see all the ways in which this can be abused.
pick me! pick me!
Why exactly does a 27,000 ton ship not set off the dar to begin with?
I suppose it's flying too low.
yes it does; curvature of the earth thing you know
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Why exactly does a 27,000 ton ship not set off the dar to begin with?
I suppose it's flying too low.
wrongway
Yep but one little ole LVT will set that base of in heartbeat!
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'Planes unable to up from CV while positioning'
Is a good idea, but it would get abused too much, as stated above.
However, another idea would be to have a red & green light in the 'tower' of the CV. The CV-commander would be able to turn the light to red, if he thinks no aircraft should up. The players will be able to take-off, but they are advised not to (by means of the red light).
Players can then ask the CV-commander to see what the red light is all about :)
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'Planes unable to up from CV while positioning'
Is a good idea
I think it is a bad idea for all of the reasons listed plus... It puts the desk top general score tards in a position of having even more power over how a CV is used. What makes their "plan" any better then somebody elses? Their rank?
No thanks, bad enough that they get to decide where the CV goes.
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If you had to use perk points to take/keep command of a CV, and to "temporarily" disable flight it could be an interesting idea.
Example #1
Player #1 takes command of a wandering CV.
Player #2 shows up and would like to take command so he enters a perk point value to take over, lets say in this case he offers 100 fighter perk points (NOTE: the player must have the points to make the offer).
Now, Player #1 can either accept his offer or he must put in a higher value to keep control of the CV, lets say it has to be 10% greater to keep. So player #1 now has put 110 fighter perks on the CV to keep it. If the carrier is then sunk, player#1 will loose his perks that he placed on it to keep command.
The only way a player should be able to give up command of the CV, and not loose perks, is if there are no enemy's within the radar ring, to prevent towering out as the bombs are falling.
Example #2
Player #1 is in command and maneuvering the CV to attack a target with the flight deck closed.
Player#2 shows up and wants to launch now, so he offers 10 perk points to open the flight deck.
Player #1 can accept the offer (and the perk points will be added to his/her account) or he places 11 perk points on the CV to keep the flight deck closed just like in example #1. So if the carrier is destroyed, player #1 would loose his perk points.
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I think Baumer's Ex2 would work with a few exceptions to it. What about the CV commander paying perks to close the flight deck? Ex: 10 perks for 10 minutes.
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I think Baumer's Ex2 would work with a few exceptions to it. What about the CV commander paying perks to close the flight deck? Ex: 10 perks for 10 minutes.
Many players will consider 10 perks a cheap price for all that whines they will enjoy when they shut down CV flight deck during a battle...
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How about perks for command of CV with no control whatsoever of the flight deck? I might be able to live with that.
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Its not your CV.
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Its not your CV.
I concur. It is noone's and everyone's all at the same time. :aok
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Then a simple fix would be to disable, closing the flight deck, when there are enemy within radar range.
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Then a simple fix would be to disable, closing the flight deck, when there are enemy within radar range.
Or better. Someone could switch sides and, while the cv is within radar range, close the flight deck.
Let the fun times ensue.
:devil
Lots of wishes about limiting what people can fly and/or from where. It does not promote game play by taking away what you can do presently.
wrongway
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I think that the CV commander should be able to set the CV speed from full speed, take off speed, and full stop. Planes cannot up when the CV is going full speed but may take off at take off speed (half speed?) or full stop. If some one is abusing this, then 5 players with a rank of under 500 may submit to "mutiny" the ship and lowest score of the subordinates gets the ship. This would also make level bombing almost impossible so you could hit 2 birds with 1 stone :aok
Wow I think the mutiny thing is a really good idea! Why don't we have this already?
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I see your point wrongway, games like, football, baseball, and basketball just fell apart because "someone" wanted to make rules and enforce them.
Every game has limits and rules, discussing the possibility of changing them, does not necessarily mean that it will automatically "not promote game play". It would be a worthwhile discussion to have about any "wish", to see if it either positively or negatively impacts game play.
The main point I was trying to make with my response to this wish is this; currently the player who has control of the CV suffers no impact (good or bad) for how they handle the carrier group. It can easily be said that the CV jockey who drives the CV into the PT spawn just to try and spawn LVT's feet dry is taking away from my game playing experience. If someone so desperately needs to do something reckless with the CV they should at least suffer the consequences, just like every other aircraft and vehicle in the game.
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Many players will consider 10 perks a cheap price for all that whines they will enjoy when they shut down CV flight deck during a battle...
Ok, then my idea with the addition of, when there are enemies in range, the fight deck opens up.
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Ok, then my idea with the addition of, when there are enemies in range, the fight deck opens up.
CV sneaked to enemy base. In CV tower: 12 guys preparing to up a mission to wreak havoc on the unsuspecting enemy, hoping for a quick grab or just to start a huge fight.
Enter Lusche. Lusche spends his 10 perks and closes flight deck, just for fun. Mission can't take off. Flight deck stays closed unless the CV finally gets spotted by the enemy. Players going ballistic on local vox and countrychannel.
Good idea?
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I think Baumer was going somewhere with his idea but I might have a much simpler solution to our dilemma. Turn friendly fire on in the MAs, carry out your CV mission and if somebody tries to up early, smoke em' with the 5". See how many planes he has to go through before he picks up on the hint that the flight deck is closed for business. :aok
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I think Baumer was going somewhere with his idea but I might have a much simpler solution to our dilemma. Turn friendly fire on in the MAs, carry out your CV mission and if somebody tries to up early, smoke em' with the 5". See how many planes he has to go through before he picks up on the hint that the flight deck is closed for business. :aok
Cool. I will spend all day sitting in 5" and shoot at friendlies trying to land :)
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Our carriers had crash nets back then that they deployed for battle damaged aircraft. What if the CV commander could just control that and make it so that it only stays up temporarily (like 2 minutes or something) before needing to be reset. Another abuse tool for sure.
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I've got an idea... Leave it how it is, and try really hard when somebody ups from a CV and flashes a base a little sooner then your "master plan" is designed to allow...
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I still prefer the idea of red and green lights.
This way the players are notified / advised when (not) to take-off, although they may do so anyway.
No restrictions :)
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I concur. It is noone's and everyone's all at the same time. :aok
control-freak anarchist!
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Yes, darn those people who ruin the best laid planes for land-grabbery through stealth and end causing actual fights.
I WISH, that who ever has command of a CV should be able to prevent others from taking off from the CV.
That way, when a CV is moving into posistion to strike an enemy base, no one could up from it, causing the enemy base to start flashing, or making a "dar" bar appear, alerting the enemy to the CV's position.
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How bout the ability for the CV commander to warn (with lets say... lights in the hanger and tower or a pop-up when you press take-off saying what's up) people that he wishes that no one takes off at the moment because of a) the CV is turning or b) it is moving into position covertly. This would solve the abuse issue and would communicate intentions and a reason to people attempting to take off without the CV commander having to get angry.
Sure some would choose to disregard what the CV commander said, but if the CV gets sunk... he was warned.
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control-freak anarchist!
:rofl :devil :rofl
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Let's add something else that who ever is in command must stay in the Cv tower, if he ups in a plane or moves to another field he looses command of the CV. Thus allow some one else to take command if being attacked.
Dhawk
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Let's add something else that who ever is in command must stay in the Cv tower, if he ups in a plane or moves to another field he looses command of the CV. Thus allow some one else to take command if being attacked.
Dhawk
+1,000,000
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I agree with DHawk but add a feature that only the CV commander can do..... add a box similar to selecting 'fighter' or 'attack' before a mission and have it read FLIGHT DECK OPEN or CLOSED...... closed no planes can take off or land.
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its simple, set a range from the base at which planes could up, and a minumum distance from the base you could up from ex: some nub with a shade takes cntrl of the CV, and attempts to not allow people to up, but when it gets within minimum distance, planes can up, kinda like a failsafe. :rock
i liek mudkipz
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Why exactly does a 27,000 ton ship not set off the dar to begin with?
I suppose it's flying too low.
wrongway
yah, uuum cvs dont fly, they float
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I see your point wrongway, games like, football, baseball, and basketball just fell apart because "someone" wanted to make rules and enforce them.
Every game has limits and rules, discussing the possibility of changing them, does not necessarily mean that it will automatically "not promote game play". It would be a worthwhile discussion to have about any "wish", to see if it either positively or negatively impacts game play.
The main point I was trying to make with my response to this wish is this; currently the player who has control of the CV suffers no impact (good or bad) for how they handle the carrier group. It can easily be said that the CV jockey who drives the CV into the PT spawn just to try and spawn LVT's feet dry is taking away from my game playing experience. If someone so desperately needs to do something reckless with the CV they should at least suffer the consequences, just like every other aircraft and vehicle in the game.
I believe the consequences of said reckless actions are your CV sinks.
How about I tell you where or when you can or can't fly just because you aren't conforming to the way I want to do things?
Sound fun?
That is my objection.
Also, a FLEET within the DAR ring, that I canSEE if I look in the right direction, should set the base to flashing on the map, irregardless of people taking off or not.
wrongway
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I believe the consequences of said reckless actions are your CV sinks.
This isn't enough considering the rampant moronic use of CVs in the Mains. Bringing the boat so close to shore you have TANKS firing on it is beyond reckless.
I say that if you have command of the CV and the boat gets sunk within the dar circle of an enemy base you lose 10000 Perks. If you don't have 10000 Perks, you go into the negative.
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OK. let me redo this wish.
Let's say for instance that a CV is not being used, and a squad, or a group of people decide they want to do a mission to take a base, and they want to use that CV that no one else is using. So someone makes and posts the mission and the plan is set into motion.
Well, then someone else sees that CV nearing an enemy base and decides to up from it and attack the base on their own, alerting the base of the CV's location and thus comprimising the mission.
So I guess what I'm saying is that if a CV is being used for a "POSTED MISSION", maybe there should be some way for the Mission planner to prevent people from upping before time.
And please forgive me Lord wrongway for posting an idea without first gaining your approval of said idea. I know how it must break your heart to be so critical of the ideas of others, FORCING you to post a reply filled with so much undue sarcasm. I weep for you. :cry
And USCH you're just a Moron,, go die. sincerly Omega. :x
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OK. let me redo this wish.
Let's say for instance that a CV is not being used, and a squad, or a group of people decide they want to do a mission to take a base, and they want to use that CV that no one else is using. So someone makes and posts the mission and the plan is set into motion.
Well, then someone else sees that CV nearing an enemy base and decides to up from it and attack the base on their own, alerting the base of the CV's location and thus comprimising the mission.
So I guess what I'm saying is that if a CV is being used for a "POSTED MISSION", maybe there should be some way for the Mission planner to prevent people from upping before time.
And please forgive me Lord wrongway for posting an idea without first gaining your approval of said idea. I know how it must break your heart to be so critical of the ideas of others, FORCING you to post a reply filled with so much undue sarcasm. I weep for you. :cry
And USCH you're just a Moron,, go die. sincerly Omega. :x
kinda harsh but ok as you wish master
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:confused: :P
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kinda harsh but ok as you wish master
Ok, Im sorry dude,,, I dont mean to really die ya know,,, I just have a problem with anger.
But my Doc says Im improving, he says I should embrace the things which cause my anger. SO come here and give us a hug! :D
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OK. let me redo this wish.
Let's say for instance that a CV is not being used, and a squad, or a group of people decide they want to do a mission to take a base, and they want to use that CV that no one else is using. So someone makes and posts the mission and the plan is set into motion.
Well, then someone else sees that CV nearing an enemy base and decides to up from it and attack the base on their own, alerting the base of the CV's location and thus comprimising the mission.
So I guess what I'm saying is that if a CV is being used for a "POSTED MISSION", maybe there should be some way for the Mission planner to prevent people from upping before time.
And please forgive me Lord wrongway for posting an idea without first gaining your approval of said idea. I know how it must break your heart to be so critical of the ideas of others, FORCING you to post a reply filled with so much undue sarcasm. I weep for you. :cry
And USCH you're just a Moron,, go die. sincerly Omega. :x
OK. Here goes.
The problem as I see it is you want to deny others the ability to fly from a particular field, being a carrier in this instance, merely because it will mess up your plans. Fair? For everybody? Shoe on the other foot OK with you?
That's all.
This post lacks sarcasm.
wrongway
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With extra Sarcasmy Goodness:
OK. Here goes.
"I want everybody to play my way. I don't care what they want to do"
Can't sneak a base this time? Cheese with that? Call out the hoards!!1!
Maybe it's a choice of tactics. If you really want to take a base without a fight, do you really need to be actually interacting with other, real, live people?
If someone made it so you couldn't fly from somewhere or you couldn't capture that particular field because they had plans, would that be OK with you?
Extra thick. Enjoy.
:O
wrongway
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With extra Sarcasmy Goodness:
absolutely. if hy head is tooooo far up my rear to notice a CV is near, then the base should be taken...
and that was by no means the best sarcasm you could muster I'm sure. Come on dude don't dissappoint us. :rock
OK. Here goes.
"I want everybody to play my way. I don't care what they want to do"
Can't sneak a base this time? Cheese with that? Call out the hoards!!1!
Maybe it's a choice of tactics. If you really want to take a base without a fight, do you really need to be actually interacting with other, real, live people?
If someone made it so you couldn't fly from somewhere or you couldn't capture that particular field because they had plans, would that be OK with you?
Extra thick. Enjoy.
:O
wrongway
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OK. Here goes.
The problem as I see it is you want to deny others the ability to fly from a particular field, being a carrier in this instance, merely because it will mess up your plans. Fair? For everybody? Shoe on the other foot OK with you?
That's all.
This post lacks sarcasm.
wrongway
Yeah it does. damnit man I want the sarcasm.