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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Sturm on April 26, 2001, 12:30:00 PM
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Ok the evilness has come out. I was thinking well my favorite tank of all time is the Sturmmorser or SturmTiger. Now this is a tank, I would put out vehicle perk points for this baby. Be able to take out both FH at a base with one hit, only drawback was limited ammo. I have all the specs if anyone might want to make it. I created this tank in our mod Western Front for Close Combat III.
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http://www.achtungpanzer.com/sttig.htm (http://www.achtungpanzer.com/sttig.htm)
Fairly nice...It could be an interesting addition. Hope to see it in AH. It's not late war, and we ned some heavy ground stuff.
Sturmtiger Specs:
Weight: 65000kg
Crew: 5 men
Engine: Maybach HL 230 P 45 / 12-cylinder / 700hp
Speed: Road: 36-40km/h
Cross-Country: 12-24km/h
Range: Road: 100-120km
Cross-Country: 60-85km
Fuel Capacity: 540 litres
Lenght: 6.28m
Width: 3.57m
Height: 2.85m w/o the crane
3.45m with the crane
Armament: 380mm Stu M RW61 L/5.4 & 7.92mm MG34
Ammo: 380mm - 14 rounds
Armor (mm/angle): Front Superstructure: 150/45
Front Hull: 100/25
Side Superstructure: 80/30
Side Hull: 60/0
Rear Superstructure: 80/0
Rear Hull: 80/9
Top / Bottom Superstructure: 40-25/90
Top / Bottom Hull: 25/90
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Rendar
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BTW the 14th round was chambered (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I think it was rip that posted a thread about vehicle perks not being worth anything.
I would like to say, yes!, anything new in the Vehicle department would be a great breath of fresh air! Might as well make it REAL NASTY and make it a perk.
I think one thing that players might consider is that V's prolly take longer than fighters to construct.
I just want a big ugly nasty bad mother of a tank to spend perkies on. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
BTW, i like that beast up top (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
LaVa
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LAVA,
FYI, During WW2 Vehicles (such as the Sherman) spent less than 4 days on the assembly line before being tested and accepted. The average bomber, like the B-17 spent about 40 days in progress from beginning to end. It is often misquoted that they were completed in an hour, the truth to that statement was that one rolled out every hour. A typical fighter spent a bit longer on the assembly line at roughly 60 days, with the longest in the US inventory being the Corsair that took 90 - 120 days to complete.
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Bodhi
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Ahhh, didnt know that bodhi, thanks for the info.
I was talking about construction in terms of HTC building tanks, maybe they could throw a sherman together in 4 days (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I'm certainly no game programer/coder/graphics guy, but i believe it must take longer to design and model twins<bombers> and vehicles than say a single engine fighter.
With that in mind, maybe HTC is concentrating on getting more fighters out of the production line and in to combat. After all, Aces is a flight sim second to none.
They<HTC> have their hands full for sure, just would like one new tank/arty type vehicle to celebrate the new armor model.
want want want..i sound like a kid in a candy store... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Cheers,
LaVa
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I dont think Sturmtiger should be top of the list when modeling new vehicles.
We need something fast with decent punch first. M24 Chaffee or Cromwell would be nice to have for example.
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jochen / Gefechtsverband Kowalewski
Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87D, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.
Sieg oder bolschevismus!
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Tanks: T-34, SU-76, Jagdpanther, Stug IIIG, M-10, M-24, M-3 Grant
AA: 2cm Flakvierling 38 auf Selbstfahrlafette Sd.Kfz.7/1 (20mm quad on a 8t SdKfz7)
Arty: Priest 105mm SP
Tronsky
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I like tronski's thinking (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
These tanks M24 Chaffee or Cromwell are not worth adding, would be like adding a M16 with a tad more armor (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) If were gonna add a perk tank make it worthwhile I do not think a M24 Chaffee or Cromwell would constitute perking which is what this thread started out as.
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If were gonna add a perk tank make it worthwhile I do not think a M24 Chaffee or Cromwell would constitute perking which is what this thread started out as.
Well, neither are any of Tronski's proposals.
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jochen / Gefechtsverband Kowalewski
Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87D, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.
Sieg oder bolschevismus!
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Oh contrare The Jagdpanther would be a perk IMO.
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Only 1 out of 8?
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jochen / Gefechtsverband Kowalewski
Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87D, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.
Sieg oder bolschevismus!
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Any reason why you are just trying to make me mad? Because I said I liked tronskis thinking? Or because I bashed you when you tried to put ideas in a thread that was not speaking of non perk tanks?
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Well sturm...another concept like the C-hog...2 tanks were used in some Panzer Regiment, cast out in the suburbs of some Polish 10000 pop city, as a trial, and it would be the No 1 used tank in MA (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Thats realism for yas...we shurely need some kind of availablity control feature...
stomper (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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A few more were used then 2 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Granted production was a dismal few, it really amazes me at how angry or the quick bashing people will do when you offer ideas.
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Just model a Churchill AVRE.
290mm Spigot mortar, heavily armored, not much slower and was produced in greater numbers.
British get their tank, and in the future, it can serve in beach landings and road laying.
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Totally forgot about the AVRE, only down side to it was the range of the mortar (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) What about the Calliope? Now that would be interesting to have and it is an american tank to boot.
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Modeling a Sherman would give you a lot of bang for your buck. Just think of the varients that could be produced from the basic welded hull Sherman.... there's the 75 and 76mm versions, the Calliope (rockets), the Jumbo (assault tank), the Crocodile (flamethrower), the Firefly (17pdr), the 105mm howitzer equipped Sherman, the HVSS or "easy eight" Sherman, and if you take the turret off and give it an open top you can do vehicles like the Priest. An added plus for doing the cast hull Sherman would be the possibility of modeling a Duplex Drive version.
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Originally posted by Sturm:
Totally forgot about the AVRE, only down side to it was the range of the mortar (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) What about the Calliope? Now that would be interesting to have and it is an american tank to boot.
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need a railroad gun... oh wait ,we have no railroads.......hint hint
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I feel the chunder!
YES!, bring in the Sherman...great info btw chunder (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
LaVa
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Just curious why people are asking for bigger (=better???) guns. I can't think of anything more boring than drive that stupid monster at 10mph somewhere to fire those 380mm things... And then what? Caboom! Hmmm... OK, very loud CABOOM!!! And? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
What happened to the exhilaration of a FIGHT? Surely you know what I'm talking about? That, edge-of-the-seat, sweaty palms, heart pumping action where you outsmart/fly/drive/shoot your opponent?
Sometimes I wonder if people asking for bigger guns are trying to compensate for something... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Lynx calm down, don't always takes thing we say in here as "what we want". I would prefer to have a Mk Va to be honest. But since Pyro said artillery was going to be introduced why not have the best? And BTW the Sturmtiger will go faster then 10 mph, around 23 would be precise. Right at the speed of our Mark IV. And BTW the reload time for that sucka was quite a bit. It would be a nice weapon to sit off base and shell with.
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[This message has been edited by AG Sachsenberg (edited 04-30-2001).]
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Nope, 23 that's on the road. Don't remember many of those in AH (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) 65 ton thing with lousy 700hp doing 23mph off road is a not-happening event (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif). I also saw a picture of this sucker being loaded with it's crane - c'mon, that's 370-odd kilo round to load, before you lose the second rocket a squadron of Lancs will take-off from a remote field, climb ot 30K and bomb you into dust (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Aye but a Mark Iv off road is not 24 as well (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) At any rate I guess we always have to have the negative point of views in a discussion. I was not being serious about the Sturmtiger, it just brought out others into what they would like to see. Some day I would like to see a post where no one squeakes or whines.
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[This message has been edited by AG Sachsenberg (edited 04-30-2001).]
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The sturm tiger would never be used at 10 mph. I would be bobsleaded down hills at 250 mph into the base ack which it is immune to and flatten all hangers at the field as fast as it could traverse.
Good candidite for a very expensive Perk vehicle.
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The exterior crane mounted on the right rear of the superstrucre was used to stow the rounds on-board the Sturmtiger. The actual loading of projectiles into the rocket tube was relativley easy. All the crew had to do was to place the rockets on a central slider with rollers then push it into the breech, close it, then fire. The rockets were stowed on the hull sides within easy reach of the slider and this was done very quickly.
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Hmmm.. Thanks for the info Grunherz - I was wondering how they were loading that sucker under fire with a crane (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
I'm just thinking that somehow un-perked slots should be filled first? And when HT and the crew are bored stiff with nothing else to do they might entertain the masses with rarely seen beasties...
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Lynx which is how I view it as well. but if they were to add a perk vehicle the Sturmtiger would be a candidate, and I mean a candidate. There are very few vehicles I would use if perked. For one thing vehicle's are at way to much of a risk to use in here for perking IMO. think if they do add vehicles you migth as well add more then jsut 1, otherwise the old ones will be seldom used, aka 202, 205.
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[This message has been edited by AG Sachsenberg (edited 04-30-2001).]
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my god i only got 1 question ???
will it kill c chog ??? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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DRILL