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Title: Tu-2
Post by: Meatloaf on June 12, 2009, 06:30:01 PM
 :rock :rock
Design and development
The Tu-2 was tailored to meet a requirement for a high speed bomber or dive-bomber, with a large internal bombload, and speed similar to that of a single seat fighter. Designed to challenge the German Junkers Ju 88, the Tu-2 proved comparable, and was produced in torpedo, interceptor, and reconnaissance versions.

Designed as "Samolyet (aircraft) 103", development took place under prison conditions. The first prototype was completed at factory N156, and made its first test flight 29 January 1941, piloted by Mikhail Nukhtinov. The AM-37 engine was abandoned to concentrate efforts on the AM-38F for Il-2. So Tupolev had to redesign aircraft for an available engine. Modifications of this bomber took ANT-58 through ANT-69 designation slots. A total of 2,257 Tu-2s were built.


[edit] Operational service
Built from 1941 to 1948. The Tu-2 was the USSR's second important twin-engined bomber (the first being the Pe-2), the design brought Andrei Tupolev back into favour after a period of detention. It was highly effective, being faster, and more nimble, as well as having a greater bomb load and range than virtually all medium bombers in service during the war with any army.

The Tu-2 remained in service until 1950. Some Chinese Tu-2s were encountered by British and American airman during the Korean War. In the 1958-1962 counter-riot actions in Qinghai-Tibet Platean covering Qinghai, Tibet, south of Gansu, west of Sichuan, Chinese PLAAF Tu-2s took on the roles of ground-attack, reconnaissance and liaison. The Chinese Tu-2s retired at the end of 1970s.


[edit] Variants
 
"Aircraft 103", ANT-58
The initial 3-seat version. Top speed 635 km/h (395 mph) at 8,000 m (26,247 ft). Two 1,044 kW (1,400 hp) Mikulin AM-37 (water cooling), 1941.
"Aircraft 103U", ANT-59
Redesigned for 4-seat crew (influenced by Junkers Ju-88). Top speed dropped to 610 km/h (379 mph). The same powerplant as for ANT-58- 2*Mikulin AM-37 engines.
ANT-67
Five-seat long-range bomber.
Tu-1 (ANT-63P)
Three-seat long-range escort fighter.
Tu-2
Two 1,081 kW (1,450 hp) Shvetsov ASh-82 (air cooling) with bigger drag, 1942.
Tu-2S (ANT-61)
Powered by two 1,380 kW (1,850 hp) Shvetsov ASh-82FN radial piston engines, 1943.
Tu-2D (ANT-62)
Longe-range version, powered by two 1,380 kW (1,850 hp) Shvetsov ASh-82FN?, 1943?
Tu-2DB (ANT-65)
Long-range bomber version.
Tu-2F (ANT-64)
Photo-reconnaissance version.
Tu-2G
High-speed cargo transport version.
Tu-2K
Only two aircraft were built for testing ejection seats.
Tu-2M (ANT-61M)
Powered by two 1,417 kW (1,900 hp) ASh-83 radial piston engines.
Tu-2N
Engine test-bed, built to test the Rolls-Royce Nene turbojet engine.
Tu-2 Paravan
Two aircraft built to test barrage balloon cable cutters and deflectors.
Tu-2R
Reconnaissance version.
Tu-2RShR
Prototype, armed with 57 mm cannon in the forward fuselage.
Tu-2Sh
Ground-attack version.
Tu-2/104
All-weather interceptor prototype.
Tu-2T (ANT-62T)
Torpedo-bomber.
Tu-6
Reconnaissance aircraft.
Tu-8 (ANT-69)
Long-range bomber.
Tu-10 (ANT-68)
General-purpose bomber prototype.
UTB
bomber trainer with Shvetsov ASh-21 engines of 515 kW (690 hp) created by the Sukhoi OKB in 1946

[edit] Operators
World War Two operators
 Soviet Union
Soviet Air Force
Post-War operators
 Bulgaria
Bulgarian Air Force
 China
People's Liberation Army Air Force
 Hungary
Hungarian Air Force
 Indonesia
Indonesian Air Force
 North Korea
North Korean Air Force
 Poland
Polish Air Force
 Romania
Romanian Air Force
 Soviet Union
Soviet Air Force
 Yugoslavia
SFR Yugoslav Air Force

[edit] Specifications (Tu-2)
General characteristics

Crew: 4
Length: 13.80 m (45 ft 3 in)
Wingspan: 18.86 m (61 ft 10 in)
Height: 4.13 m (13 ft 7 in)
Wing area: 48.5 m² (522 ft²)
Empty weight: 7,601 kg (16,757 lb)
Loaded weight: 10,538 kg (23,232 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 11,768 kg (25,944 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Shvetsov ASh-82 radial engines, 1,380 kW (1,850 hp) each
Performance

Maximum speed: 521 km/h (281 kn, 325 mph)
Range: 2,020 km (1,090 nmi, 1,260 mi)
Service ceiling: 9,000 m (29,528 ft)
Rate of climb: 8.2 m/s (1,610 ft/min)
Wing loading: 217 kg/m² (45 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 260 W/kg (0.16 hp/lb)
Armament


Guns:
2 × 20 mm (0.79 in) fixed forward-firing ShVAK cannons in the wings
3 × 7.62 mm (0.30 in) rear-firing ShKAS machine guns (later replaced by 12.7 mm (0.50 in)Berezin UB machine guns) in the canopy, dorsal and ventral hatches.
Bombs:
Internal 1,500 kg (3,300 lb)
External 2,270 kg (5,004 lb)

[edit] See also

Related development

Tupolev Tu-1
Tupolev Tu-6
Tupolev Tu-8
Tupolev Tu-10
Tupolev Tu-12

Comparable aircraft

Petlyakov Pe-2
Dornier Do 217
Junkers Ju-88

Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Meatloaf on June 12, 2009, 06:31:31 PM
we need mo 2 engine fighters fo-sho  :rock :rock
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Meatloaf on June 12, 2009, 06:34:26 PM
this thing carries more ords than the 17's !!!!  :rock
 :aok
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Larry on June 12, 2009, 06:41:02 PM
Looks like it's that time of the year again. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Meatloaf on June 12, 2009, 06:42:42 PM
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Looks like it's that time of the year again.

whats tat supposed tuh meen?  :rock

i liek mudkipz
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: eddiek on June 12, 2009, 06:55:50 PM

It'd be an interesting addition.  The Soviet planeset is very limited, this would give their fans something else to choose from.  I'd put it higher on the add list than more LW fighters, for sure. 
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Meatloaf on June 12, 2009, 06:57:54 PM
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It'd be an interesting addition.  The Soviet planeset is very limited, this would give their fans something else to choose from.  I'd put it higher on the add list than more LW fighters, for sure. 

Holy crap, someone that makes sence, we defineatly need more twin engine fighter/attack planes, and the russian plane set is WOEFULLY underdone, i also added the Pe-2 as an option. :rock :rock

i liek mudkipz
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: jolly22 on June 12, 2009, 06:59:21 PM
im confused.....it has guns in the wings (maybe i read wrong) but has the capabilitly of a bomber.....bomber or fighter?
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Meatloaf on June 12, 2009, 07:00:41 PM
thats the beautiful thing about this plane, it has the capability to be both :rock

i liek mudkipz
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Meatloaf on June 12, 2009, 07:23:38 PM
mudkipz +1  :rock :rock

i liek mudkipz
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: 1Boner on June 12, 2009, 09:55:12 PM
Perk it!!! :x
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Enker on June 14, 2009, 11:02:07 AM
:rock :rock
Design and development
.....
Junkers Ju-88


[citation needed]

Seriously, try making your wish look less like it was from Wikipedia and looking more like a paper you would turn into to your English teacher.
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: waystin2 on June 15, 2009, 08:51:41 AM
I support the TU-2! :aok
(http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acimages/tu2_maxbryansky.jpg)
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: MachFly on June 15, 2009, 11:46:41 AM
I doubt HTC will add it any time soon because there were just a little over 2 thousand of them build






this thing carries more ords than the 17's !!!!  :rock
 :aok

well......technically the B-17 can carry 17,500lb of ord.   :devil
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: waystin2 on June 15, 2009, 12:21:00 PM
I doubt HTC will add it any time soon because there were just a little over 2 thousand of them build

Whaaaaat? :huh  You got an inside track the rest of us know nothing about?
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: MachFly on June 15, 2009, 12:30:27 PM
Whaaaaat? :huh  You got an inside track the rest of us know nothing about?

are you referring to "I doubt HTC will add it any time soon" or "there were just a little over 2 thousand of them build"?
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: waystin2 on June 15, 2009, 12:33:18 PM
The "I doubt" Sir.
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Denholm on June 15, 2009, 01:55:07 PM
Anyone else get the idea that Meatloaf is a shade?

Yes, I would enjoy seeing the TU-2 enter service in Aces High.
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: waystin2 on June 15, 2009, 02:11:49 PM
Anyone else get the idea that Meatloaf is a shade?

Let us look a bit closer...
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_p-8zuiq3F7s/SdzglBCjwcI/AAAAAAAAAHU/-hWZ2p2JW1o/s320/meatloaf.jpg) :rofl
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Rich46yo on June 15, 2009, 03:30:04 PM
I doubt HTC will add it any time soon because there were just a little over 2 thousand of them build

I always thought war time production of the TU-2 was a little over 1,000. Be that as it may we have a lot of air craft in the game whose numbers were less. The Jap KI-67 had around 700 produced. The ME-262, the 163, the coming Brewster Buffalo had about 500 built, the 3 cannon LA-7 didnt have a big presence.

Where'as the TU-2 did have a large impact in the war starting about early 1944. As the Soviet army approached Germanys eastern border, where German resistance stiffened, the TU-2 was called upon. It was the best Soviet bomber of the war and would be a great addition to the game.
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/TU-2-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Pigslilspaz on June 16, 2009, 02:16:21 PM
Holy crap, someone that makes sence...

...i liek mudkipz

obviously your suprised because you dont make sense either, by the way, heard of spell check?
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Denholm on June 16, 2009, 02:38:20 PM
Obviously you're surprised because you don't make sense either. By the way, heard of spell check?
FREEZE!
(http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/3948/spbadgehl7.gif)
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Krusty on June 17, 2009, 01:49:44 AM
It was not a fighter. It was a bomber, that could be used in ground attack.

Will pilots dogfight it? Sure, why not? They do with IL2s, B17s, already. Doesn't make 'em fighters, though.


Just sayin'...
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Wmaker on June 17, 2009, 09:09:28 AM
Where'as the TU-2 did have a large impact in the war starting about early 1944.

Tu-2 first saw combat during the Stalin's Fourth strategic offensive against Finland during summer of '44, not early '44.
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Meatloaf on June 19, 2009, 12:30:37 AM
 :aok
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Noir on June 19, 2009, 05:27:21 AM
DA !  :aok
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Meatloaf on June 23, 2009, 04:23:49 AM
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m305/matttt06/Family_Guy_Model_Misbehavior_2005_5.jpg)
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Grape on June 24, 2009, 10:48:50 AM
Would it be called a "Too-Two" by cartoon pilots in AH if it did make it into the game? "Too-Two, nine o'clock, low!"
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: waystin2 on June 24, 2009, 11:39:25 AM
"Too-Two, nine o'clock, low!"

Now that is funny!
(http://www.completelybonkers.co.uk/images/tutu.jpg)
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: macerxgp on June 24, 2009, 11:52:06 AM
I think I have an idea for the next Wednesday babe.... :x
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Meatloaf on June 24, 2009, 01:50:03 PM
All these people that say "The russians have lend lease" which is true, but they have NO twin engine aircraft of their own, even the japanese have the Ki-67 (which i realise is a bomber) but my point remains valid, need more japanese and rusky planes
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Rich46yo on June 24, 2009, 03:12:59 PM
Tu-2 first saw combat during the Stalin's Fourth strategic offensive against Finland during summer of '44, not early '44.

Quote
A small number of Tu-2s had previously been passed to frontline regiments in September 1942, where their performance, armament and bombload had received general enthusiasm.
http://www.aviastar.org/air/russia/tu-2.php
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Wmaker on June 24, 2009, 05:23:48 PM
That "small number" was exactly three aircraft flying total of 25 sorties during service trials. If you want to call that the type's combat debute, that's fine. :) Which it of course in fact was. But the type didn't start having that "big impact" you are talking about until from the start of Stalin's Fourth strategic offensive.
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Grape on June 24, 2009, 06:36:34 PM
I wanna see "Too-Two's" everywhere...In the arena.
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Meatloaf on July 05, 2009, 10:11:43 PM
(http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_bDpWa1FKH.AAfXejzbkF/SIG=11o40kudq/EXP=1246936278/**http%3A//www.aviation.ru/Tu/2/Tu-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: BMathis on July 05, 2009, 10:28:35 PM
It would be a good addition  :aok
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: sandwich on July 23, 2009, 01:11:59 AM
im guessing it will have the anorexic russian cannon loadout

also yes i like the plane

Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Enker on July 23, 2009, 01:21:43 AM
im guessing it will have the anorexic russian cannon loadout

also yes i like the plane


It isn't anorexic, the load out is perfectly healthy. Now those Tempest and 190 load outs are obese man, obese!

On my sorties, by the time I get two kills, I still have 96-ish cannon rounds in my Yak-9U. Don't ask about MG rounds though.
Title: Re: Tu-2
Post by: Rich46yo on July 23, 2009, 04:32:12 PM
That "small number" was exactly three aircraft flying total of 25 sorties during service trials. If you want to call that the type's combat debute, that's fine. :) Which it of course in fact was. But the type didn't start having that "big impact" you are talking about until from the start of Stalin's Fourth strategic offensive.

I call it that cause the aircraft was actually designed starting in 1940 with series production starting in 1942.

Production was abandoned for a year due to all available aircraft production being diverted to front line fighter production. That and the interruptions to Soviet industry.

A small number, 18 actually, were at Kursk as well. In 1943.