Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: Larry on June 13, 2009, 10:08:31 PM
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Kick off is 8:00PM CST
This week American bombers will be going into the Fatherland to strike another industrial target. Intel has leaked to the German high command and they have informed their squads stationed in or near Colmar, Freiburg, and Offenburg to be ready to intercept a bomber stream any day now.
Allies A15:
B-17G - No higher then 25K
P-38J - No higher then 30K
P-47D-11 ''
P-47D-25 ''
P-51D ''
Axis A7:
Bf109G-2 No higher then 30k
Bf109G-6 "
Bf109G-14 "
Be110G-2 "
Fw190A-8 "
Fw190D-9 "
I ask that Axis fighters do not pass the black line which is the vertical 9 line until bombers show up on radar or are visually spotted from behind it.
There was some confusion when some of the newer guys that flew bombers last mission. Bombers wont be flying at full throttle while we are leveled off. This is to let us keep a tight formation and to give axis time to get a run on us before we drop on the strat. We try to make these missions fun for everyone so people come back for more.
Since there has been some trouble in the past with Titanic Tuesdays running longer then they should in the past we will postpone the mission until Thursday 6.18 if it does this week.
The Map:
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/6-17-09WNM.jpg)
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Pending anything I don't know about, I should be able to make this. :rock
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And why no P38L?
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Looks like I can be there. :aok
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And why no P38L?
P38L's majority were PTO birds. The P38J models were in force in the ETO during the 8th daylight raids so i can assume that is why there are no L models.
82nd looks to fly tonight in this mission. :salute
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I;m all druggd up right now.,,.will try to get on for it though
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P38L's majority were PTO birds. The P38J models were in force in the ETO during the 8th daylight raids so i can assume that is why there are no L models.
82nd looks to fly tonight in this mission. :salute
The L was in the ETO and many of the J's were kitted out to be just like the L (dive flap and boosted ailerons)
"Nothing, to these pilots, after the hard winter of 1943-44 could be more beautiful than a P-38L outrolling and tailgating a German fighter straight down, following a spin or split-S or whatever gyration a startled, panicked and doomed German might attempt to initiate. You just couldn't get away from the P-38L. Whatever the German could do, the American in the P-38L could do better."
The complaints were relayed to the Lockheed factory, and design changes were incorporated in the P-38L. Prior to the arrival of the "L's" at Wormingford, many modification kits were shipped to Langford Lodge, North Ireland, for field modifications of the "J" model Lightning then arriving in the theater. Unfortunately, an early shipment aboard a DC-4 was lost at sea when the Brits shot the cargo plane from the sky. It took several months to replace the lost modification kits. Early P-38J-5-LO's were modified at Langford Lodge by the addition of the replacement kits. The kits added dive recovery flaps under the wings, outboard of the engines, and a 3000psi hydraulically boosted aileron system. The P-38L's were now coming down the production line with the aileron boost and "speed boards" installed.
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And why no P38L?
Because they aren't in the setup.
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forget what I said then.
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The P-38L entered service with the USAAF in June of 1944, in time to support the Allied invasion of France on D-Day
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/P-38L
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The Larry has spoken. The P38L is not in the setup therefore it cannot be in the setup.
One cannot argue with logic like that so I won't.
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forget what I said then.
no way...
:D
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The Larry has spoken. The P38L is not in the setup therefore it cannot be in the setup.
One cannot argue with logic like that so I won't.
I said its not in the mission because its not in this weeks setup. If you want to know why its not in the setup then start a thread asking the CMs why and stop hijacking this one.
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forget what I said then.
but why?!? :cry
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but why?!? :cry
I was wrong about the usage of 38Ls in the ETO :confused:
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I was wrong about the usage of 38Ls in the ETO :confused:
off with his head..
:furious
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:lol
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just got discoed trying to set the arena up. Laptop is working fine but can't reconnect with my PC. Anyone else available?
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Well....I had fun. Me and a squadmate flew Axis because there were low numbers and no P38L.
Sortie one we flew 190A5's and got a couple passes on the B17's, inflicting non-lethal damage and receiving enough damage from the B17's to have to leave the fight.
Second sortie I flew a Bf110 and got a decent head on pass at a set of bombers and killed one. And then a guy in a P38 decided I looked juicy. My squaddie was riding in the gun slot so I let him tickle the P38 for a while and then forced an overshoot and smashed the P38 to small pieces.
Axis guys didn't communicate much although there was plenty of communication between certain squadmates which made the bombers easy to find. I don't see much point in turning the radar off if this is going to happen. Actually I don't think there is any point in turning the radar off in an arena with 20 people in it.
Lots of folks well above the 30K limit but that has been going on since the beginning of online events so no complaints there.
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Was a fun mission overall,
82nd Were operational last night with 6 P-38J airframes but relinquished 2 to the B-17 pilots so we had 4 left. Everything went smooth, we were trailing a bit due to my inability to navigate :lol so the buffs got engaged before we were near em.
A drone caught fire before we were in position to fend them off and it was all fun from that point on. Wing scored a 109 shortly after the initial combat around 19,000ft while I scored one for an assist down low. The night was fun overall and i wish more squadrons would fly these missions.
:salute Larry
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Was fun, wtg Larry.
The arena settings seemed to be porked. I couldn't get rid of darbar despite disabling every form of dar in the arena. Server crashes last week seemed to have messed things up possibly? Setup gets changed tomorrow anyway.
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Couple screenshots:
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3083/buffs.png)
(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1859/runway.png)
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2867/109m.png)
(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6302/battle.png)
(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2131/48718801.png)
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8365/sideshot.png)
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7311/splash1.png)
(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4521/19588957.png)
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sweet screenshots! Ya done the 479th justice
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Thanks buster! Wish more P-38s were available last night though. :x
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So did ya'll make it home or did you get shot down?
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And why no P38L?
Because if the setup for the Allied side is the 8th AF, then it would be more appropriate to use the J. The L really didn't see service with the 8th AF, having by the time the L came around were in full force transition to the P-51. Coupled with the shooting down of cargo planes carrying the parts needed to convert J models with the dive flaps and boosted ailerons, sealed the fate of the P-38 with the 8th AF. The 9th however did fly the L and with great success.
ack-ack
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Coupled with the shooting down of cargo planes carrying the parts needed to convert J models with the dive flaps and boosted ailerons, sealed the fate of the P-38 with the 8th AF.
ack-ack
Those Spit dweebs can't do anything right!
When I was reading Caiden's book I couldn't help but laugh a bit when he mentioned that. What tough luck. Hopefully the cargo plane pilots made it out ok. Can't remember what the outcome was.