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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: Fencer51 on June 14, 2009, 09:39:01 PM
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P-39Q 'White 103', 212 GvIAP
(http://www.51hangar.net/skins/Q212_1.jpg)
(http://www.51hangar.net/skins/Q212_2.jpg)
P-39Q 'White 10', 19 GvIAP of Captain Pavel Stepanovich
(http://www.51hangar.net/skins/Q19_1.jpg)
(http://www.51hangar.net/skins/Q19_2.jpg)
Whoops gotta fix the port red nose lineup.
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I suggest a less subtle appearance for the rudder seam and the brownish blur of the panel lines.
Lovely looking skins. :aok
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Very nice.
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Great looking skins Fencer, nicely dirtied up. :aok
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:O
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First one I saw, I was thinking "white 100, finally!" :cry
Awesome skins though, great work.
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Beautiful
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First one I saw, I was thinking "white 100, finally!" :cry
Info?
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White 100 was the P-39 ride of Alexander Pokryshkin who scored 59 kills and is one of the top scoring Allied aces of World War II. He also won the Hero of the Soviet Union award 3 times; only three people have one the HSU three times.
(http://www.onmarkint.com/static/images/h/ha1701/HA1701-1.jpg)
Only problem is, White 100 was a P-39N. Can it be skinned on a P-39Q?
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Very nice P-39 skins, Fencer
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I'll start it tonight.
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They look great!
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N/Q main difference is only the change from 4x 30cal internal wing guns to 2x 50cal underwing gondola guns. Reports indicate many Soviet units removed the wing guns anyways (so fly the Q without wing guns to simulate this "N", is my suggestion)
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I'll start it tonight.
Here's another Profile if ya want:
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/1pLUs44/pokri2-1.jpg)
And here is an image of "White 100" without the kill stars on it:
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/1pLUs44/Pokryshkin_P39N.jpg)
Here's a biography of Pokryshkin's wartime experiences:
http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3/pokryshkin.html
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More:
(http://www.elknet.pl/acestory/foto/pokri1.jpg)
(http://www.elknet.pl/acestory/foto/pokri2.jpg)
wrongway
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Why doesn't the prop blades show up in the screen shots? I would think u should be able to see it.
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Enough Russian stuff :)
How bout a mostly black P39D from the 35th FS, 8th FG Milne Bay, when they had the nerve to try and intercept Japanese bombers at night? Not a very fancy paint job, but different.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Black39D.jpg)
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Enough Russian stuff :)
How bout a mostly black P39D from the 35th FS, 8th FG Milne Bay, when they had the nerve to try and intercept Japanese bombers at night? Not a very fancy paint job, but different.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Black39D.jpg)
As the only 39D driver in Aces High, I say no! :)
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Hey, now! I fly 'em too!!
(but I also say "no!" heheh)
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As the only 39D driver in Aces High, I say no! :)
Excuse me! :O
Check Signature. :aok
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As the only 39D driver in Aces High, I say no! :)
ummm :confused:
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Great work Fencer.
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Warloc, I have went in on the 19 GIAP bird and put the dark green patch on the upper left wing and a blue cover on the lower right to match the painted out fusalage US insignia.
On the 212th bird, do you think it should have red stars on the upper wing as well?
btw, thanks all. I am working on White 100 and hope to have something by the weekend and I might hit the 39Ds for a plane or two.
Then I think it's time to help Greebo with the Hellcats. Any VF squadrons that want a plane done for you let me know, although I think Greebo has taken care of everyone. :aok Otherwise I will be doing one from VF-15 (I think that was McCampbell's squadron) and VF-83.
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The fuselage looks to be repainted? im looking at the multi shades of fuselage green, so im thinking it was not delivered with the Russian stars from the USA factory. So, I dunno, it depends what you think it was delivered with, and what they painted over.
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Warloc, I have went in on the 19 GIAP bird and put the dark green patch on the upper left wing and a blue cover on the lower right to match the painted out fusalage US insignia.
On the 212th bird, do you think it should have red stars on the upper wing as well?
btw, thanks all. I am working on White 100 and hope to have something by the weekend and I might hit the 39Ds for a plane or two.
Then I think it's time to help Greebo with the Hellcats. Any VF squadrons that want a plane done for you let me know, although I think Greebo has taken care of everyone. :aok Otherwise I will be doing one from VF-15 (I think that was McCampbell's squadron) and VF-83.
Thank you for putting your time and effort for Pokryshkin's bird. Hopefully, we can also find someone to do Rechkalovs. Would be very cool to have Top Allied Aces #2 and 3 and their P-39s.
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Excuse me! :O
Check Signature. :aok
It was meant to be funny a jab at one of my former post's http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,261875.0.html So much for my comedic career Krusty was the only one who got it.
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Thank you for putting your time and effort for Pokryshkin's bird. Hopefully, we can also find someone to do Rechkalovs. Would be very cool to have Top Allied Aces #2 and 3 and their P-39s.
(http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/images/rechkalov_3.jpg)
(http://www.acesofww2.com/soviet/p39_rechkalov.jpg)
(http://www.theeasternfront.co.uk/Graphics/rechkalov2.jpg)
And it was a "Q", or was it.....?
Actually Rechkalov flew the D2 as did most of the aces in the 16th...
(http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/romanenko/p-39/p39d2_4138428.jpg)
P-39D-2 "White 37" of Guards Snr.Lt. V.I. Fadeev, CO of the 3-rd Squadron, 16 GIAP. Kuban', April-May, 1943
This is probably the best overall url for general 411 on the history of the P-39 in russian service
http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/romanenko/p-39/index.htm (http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/romanenko/p-39/index.htm)
Quote removed pic:
(http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/romanenko/p-39/p39d2_4138428.jpg)
wrongway
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(http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/images/rechkalov_3.jpg)
(http://www.acesofww2.com/soviet/p39_rechkalov.jpg)
(http://www.theeasternfront.co.uk/Graphics/rechkalov2.jpg)
And it was a "Q", or was it.....?
Quote removed pic:
(http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/romanenko/p-39/p39d2_4138428.jpg)
wrongway
Question, are the two profiles of the exact same plane? Or different?
:salute
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Question, are the two profiles of the exact same plane? Or different?
:salute
Different Serial Numbers. Found them google searching. One of the results came back to this message board.
Both profiles are showing wing guns. Most of the P-39 profiles in the Osprey books show wing guns no matter the variant too. I figure it's a lazy artist.
If you could make out the Serial Number in the Black and White photo by Rechkalov's boot, you would know for sure.
wrongway
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Different Serial Numbers. Found them google searching. One of the results came back to this message board.
Both profiles are showing wing guns. Most of the P-39 profiles in the Osprey books show wing guns no matter the variant too. I figure it's a lazy artist.
If you could make out the Serial Number in the Black and White photo by Rechkalov's boot, you would know for sure.
wrongway
Well, since it's his 39 with all the kill-stars on it, you could probably distinguish it as late-war. So, more than likely a 39-N or Q you think?
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According to what I read, the got the "White 100" bird in late 43. At that time its most likely an N or Q and they were removing the wing guns from the Ns and the pods from the Qs.
Its going on a Q, if HTC doesn't like that, I will redo it on a D. <shrug>
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According to what I read, the got the "White 100" bird in late 43. At that time its most likely an N or Q and they were removing the wing guns from the Ns and the pods from the Qs.
Its going on a Q, if HTC doesn't like that, I will redo it on a D. <shrug>
I think HTC allows it for -N birds.
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Iv asked HTC when doing my P39 skins and Ns go on Q model.
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White 100
(http://www.51hangar.net/skins/white100.jpg)
And something for Coral Sea..
8th FG, 36th FS Pilot Don "Fibber" McGee
(http://www.51hangar.net/skins/NNemesis.jpg)
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Wow, both are just....beautiful. :aok
I really like that 8th FG skin.
Just needs the tail number on white 100 (29004) and its perfect.
again, Well done :salute
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Nice Fencer
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Very cool.
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Fencer, not trying to bash your skins or anything but Iv always disliked that 'dirt/mud' layer you put on some of your skins. This layer stands out to much IMO. May I suggest gaussian blurring it 3-5 if you are using photoshop and reduce the opacity by maybe half. This way it is still there to brake up the skin so its not all the same color but isn't standing out and drawing as much attention. Again not trying to put your work down just making some suggestions from one skinner to another. :salute
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re: White 100 - Yeah the serial no. layer was off when I exported it for the screen shots, its on now.
Larry, constructive critisism is the only way to get way to get better. Thanks for the input. Everyone does skins differently and each skinner has a style and preferences. Yours are very well done but like you with your opinion of mine, I see things I dislike on other's skins. It is all in what each of us want it to look like and neither are wrong nor does it make yours, mine or anyone else's (except some neon 109s) any less well done. If they all looked the same if would be pretty boring.
I have no layer of "dirt" per se on these skins. There is a high light layer (pale yellow), a white and a black contrast layer(s) and a darkening along the panel lines and rivet lines for contrast and dirt buildup. After looking at color and bw photos I am relatively happy with the over all effect now. 2 weeks from now I might change it. Dunno. :)
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I dont think that the VVS had the Red Star ever on just one wing though, it would be both, or neither. If they overpainted a US star/circle on the left wing with a VVS Red Star...they would also have a Red Star on the right wing. Same for the undersides, both wings would have stars. Only the USA had markings where just one wing had them, the UK, European, Russian, and IJ did not do that.
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:O
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Very nice Fencer.
:salute
Excellent work on both skins.
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I really like your low lights. :x