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Title: Why not?
Post by: sandwich on June 17, 2009, 09:48:26 PM
because I'm bored and tired of b29 posts i feel i should go all the way and post something that will never be in the game in order to make the b29 more likeable.

B-41 liberator
(http://www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/hangar/8217/fgun/xb41-b.jpg)

it was an escort bomber invented before the advent of the long range fighter. this was created at the time when air force top brass thought bombers could completely defend themselves.

it sports 14 defensive guns with 2 top turrets, 2 ventral turrets, 2 tail turrets and 2 nose turrets sporting 2 guns each turret
it also had 2 waist guns on each side

it carried 11,000 rounds of ammo stored in the Bombay

it is maybe the most practical thing ever... kind of... not really

it failed but it would be pretty cool for about 5 minutes
Title: Re: Why not?
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 17, 2009, 10:51:17 PM
Standard answer:

Never saw combat
Did not serve at squadron strength
Does not meet the criteria to be included or added to the game.

You should have chosen what's behind door number 2:

The Boeing/Lockheed-Vega YB-40 Flying Fortress
Type:           bomber escort
Crew:           9
Armament:       from 14 to 30 fifty caliber machine guns
      (various configurations were tested):

(http://www.303rdbg.com/art-styling-tampatornado1-S.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kIWY2DV0KnE/SIP6o1OqXUI/AAAAAAAAA84/TLgXll0E3UU/s400/YB-40+2.jpg)


Which did see combat
Did not serve at squadron strength, only flew as an experiment
And was also a failure

Still not elegible for inclusion.


wrongway
Title: Re: Why not?
Post by: Strip on June 17, 2009, 11:44:19 PM
Good God!

Dont let 999000 see that!!
Title: Re: Why not?
Post by: Pannono on June 18, 2009, 12:18:32 AM
Good God!
Dont let 999000 see that!!
:rofl
Title: Re: Why not?
Post by: sandwich on June 18, 2009, 12:27:09 AM
this is all to make b29 seem more plausible

mission accomplished?
Title: Re: Why not?
Post by: Masherbrum on June 18, 2009, 12:35:50 AM
this is all to make b29 seem very plausible

mission accomplished?

FAIL.

The Bold text shows the deliberate use of trolling as well.   
Title: Re: Why not?
Post by: Vadjan-Sama on June 18, 2009, 12:53:49 AM
OMG, thx god that thing can't match the criteria...    I'll ever be less than 2k away of that thing if it was in the game  :noid
Title: Re: Why not?
Post by: Strip on June 18, 2009, 01:24:12 AM
I lost a wing just thinking about triple niner in that bird.....

 :uhoh
Title: Re: Why not?
Post by: Beefcake on June 18, 2009, 03:51:47 AM
The major problem with the YB-40's were their weight. IIRC when the normal B17's dropped their bombs the YB-40s would fall behind due to the extra ammo and gun weight.

It would be cool to have them, but as you stated, for only about 5 minutes. Why? (I'm speaking in-game thinking terms here) Lone bombers are meat for any fighter, even with extra guns. Also it really doesn't have any better rearward defense than the B17, only better fire coverage to the sides and top.
Title: Re: Why not?
Post by: Nemisis on June 18, 2009, 02:32:51 PM
I just thought of a fun thing to do with that thing, fly just out of ack rang and annoy the fighters because they will get slaughered it they try to attack it. If it ever would make it into the game (like in 1,000,000 yrs) HTC should allow every position to be manned.
Title: Re: Why not?
Post by: sandwich on June 19, 2009, 01:13:04 AM
Also it really doesn't have any better rearward defense than the B17, only better fire coverage to the sides and top.

it does because it has 2 seperate tail turrets


oh how i wish there was a minigun in wwII

massive slaughterfest
Title: Re: Why not?
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 19, 2009, 12:37:18 PM
it does because it has 2 seperate tail turrets


oh how i wish there was a minigun in wwII

massive slaughterfest

Uhhh.  No, it doesn't

Think about it.  Picture it in your mind.


wrongway
Title: Re: Why not?
Post by: Baumer on June 19, 2009, 03:20:31 PM
Well you could wish for the PB4Y-2 it's almost as good, and it meets all the criteria for inclusion.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/PB4Y-2_NAS_Jax_1943.jpg/777px-PB4Y-2_NAS_Jax_1943.jpg)

Notice the twin .50's in the waist position. The PB4Y-2 didn't have turbochargers, so no complaints about the bombers being to high. Besides' they removed the ball turret from the bottom, so everyone would be flown NOE!  :lol
Title: Re: Why not?
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 19, 2009, 03:24:28 PM
Well you could wish for the PB4Y-2 it's almost as good, and it meets all the criteria for inclusion.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/PB4Y-2_NAS_Jax_1943.jpg/777px-PB4Y-2_NAS_Jax_1943.jpg)

Notice the twin .50's in the waist position. The PB4Y-2 didn't have turbochargers, so no complaints about the bombers being to high. Besides' they removed the ball turret from the bottom, so everyone would be flown NOE!  :lol

Question regarding the waist guns in the blisters:  How did they work?  I read somewhere that they were able to remove the ball turret because the waste guns as they were mounted in those blisters could point straight down and cover the underside of the bomber.

I just can't picture it.


wrongway
Title: Re: Why not?
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 19, 2009, 04:18:22 PM
Question regarding the waist guns in the blisters:  How did they work?  I read somewhere that they were able to remove the ball turret because the waste guns as they were mounted in those blisters could point straight down and cover the underside of the bomber.

I just can't picture it.


wrongway

There were internal ball turret in the waist blisters and when the guns were depressed to maximum, the guns converged at a point 30 feet below the PB4Y-2.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Why not?
Post by: Baumer on June 19, 2009, 04:31:06 PM
(http://www.air-and-space.com/20070106%20Chino/_BEL7622%20PB4Y-2%20left%20waist%20blister%20inboard%20l.jpg)

Not sure I'd like hanging upside down to get the bottom shot, but it's better than nothing!
Title: Re: Why not?
Post by: morfiend on June 19, 2009, 04:37:22 PM
nice pix baum!!!

 :salute

ps: got any books you'd like to send my way??? :rofl :x
Title: Re: Why not?
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 19, 2009, 05:01:49 PM
There were internal ball turret in the waist blisters and when the guns were depressed to maximum, the guns converged at a point 30 feet below the PB4Y-2.


ack-ack

Thank you.  That's the part I couldn't figure out.  The internal ball turret part.  I finally found some pictures on the net and it all makes sense now.


(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/263/pb4y2privateersidegunbl.jpg)


edit: oops.  repeat pic


wrongway