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Title: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Nemisis on June 18, 2009, 02:26:25 PM
 I did some searching and I didn't find anything like this that was newer than 1007 so either I'm not doing a good search or no one brought this up in a while so either help me correct my mistakes or no whining.

Well anyway, I thought it would be nice to be able to pick up downed pilots and make it so they don't count as "bailed" or "shot down" and they won't loose any perks, vids, or screen shots, or whatever they have. I want to be able to land my C47 near (like half a mile or so) a couple of downed pilots and pick them up; once I am in range a prompt could appear on screen like the accept join thing. It would also be cool to be able to drive by in a PT boat or an LVT or something. You could do it with a jeep or a half-track or whatever you want. Just think about it. Since it would ba a high risk job you could have the ammount of perks set to 5 or so times that of a normal sortie.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Belial on June 18, 2009, 02:29:43 PM
Sounds like an awsome idea, I love running supps to people and doin stuff they will appreciate.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: TwinBoom on June 18, 2009, 02:32:31 PM
Hey skuzzy can you make the seach button red and flashing with a bell seems no one can find it
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Motherland on June 18, 2009, 02:35:15 PM
'Rescue of downed pilots' is about as common as B29, sub and nuke threads.

If I had to wait an hour before my next sortie for someone to pick me up.... I wouldn't.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Nemisis on June 18, 2009, 02:40:42 PM
Sounds like an awsome idea, I love running supps to people and doin stuff they will appreciate.

I assume you fly a C47. And I do two. The only problem is that fighter jockeys seem to get annoyed at us if we as a question or even seem a LITTLE newb. Well anyway, it would be cool to land your C47, pick up a pilot while an Fw 190 makes a strafing run at you. You would win the screenshot contest with the ones you will pick up with that job. And the vids would be like something out of an action movie! 


Twin Boom, what idid I say at the VERY top of my post? Ya, exactly. If I am typing in the wrong key words then feel free to suggest somehthing. And motherland same to you. BTW, you wouldn't HAVE to wait, that would be a TERRIBLE idea. You could just wait for like 5 or 10 min, maby a gv will drive by or a C47 will happen to fly by. Besides I bet you would wait if you had been flying the Me262.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Motherland on June 18, 2009, 02:48:32 PM
You could just wait for like 5 or 10 min, maby a gv will drive by or a C47 will happen to fly by.
Have you ever tried to get supplies for your GV? If no one from your squad is there, you likely have to wait 10-15 minutes to get someone to be gracious enough to drive 30 seconds for the spawn point to drop supplies for you. Not complaining about that btw.
Take this to being baled out anywhere on the map, it would easily take a half an hour to recruit someone to pick you up, and then fly the entire way in and back in a C47.

Besides I bet you would wait if you had been flying the Me262.
No.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Denholm on June 18, 2009, 02:56:43 PM
Now how many more squeakers will annoy pilots passing by because they wish to redeem their two kills?

No, thank you.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Nemisis on June 18, 2009, 03:14:54 PM
Take this to being baled out anywhere on the map, it would easily take a half an hour to recruit someone to pick you up, and then fly the entire way in and back in a C47.

No, you won't have to drive or fly all the way back, once you are in a vehicle you could just end flight, or would that cause you to loose screenshots and what not, I have never tried it. If you do the forget and you are right and we should just scrap this idea.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Motherland on June 18, 2009, 03:16:08 PM
I have no clue what you're talking about. Nothing causes you to lose screenshots or film.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Puck on June 18, 2009, 03:43:23 PM
I have no clue what you're talking about. Nothing causes you to lose screenshots or film.

When you are captured by the enemy they take all your personal effects, including screenshots, films, and that dirty avi you hid in the system directory so your mother won't find it...
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Yossarian on June 18, 2009, 03:58:10 PM
When you are captured by the enemy they take all your personal effects, including screenshots, films, and that dirty avi you hid in the system directory so your mother won't find it...

Lol, that's actually quite a good idea!
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Nemisis on June 18, 2009, 04:00:20 PM
Thank you Puck. I will put that to good (kinda) use!

And I was always under the impression that if you crashed or bailed you would loose all recorded videos and screenshots for that flight.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: 5PointOh on June 18, 2009, 05:03:02 PM
'Rescue of downed pilots' is about as common as B29, sub and nuke threads.

If I had to wait an hour before my next sortie for someone to pick me up.... I wouldn't.
I like subs!

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Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Lye-El on June 18, 2009, 05:05:07 PM
Now how many more squeakers will annoy pilots passing by because they wish to redeem their two kills?

No, thank you.


I can see the text on country now. "Somebody help me pulleeezzzze. I had two vulchs and had to bail because a red guy got within 5K of me. I want to land them for the adoration of my countrymen. PULLEEZZE HELP. Just drive 15 miles north of A21 and pick me up!"

"Could somebody rescue me? Come on guys...PULLEZZE!"

ect.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: RipChord929 on June 18, 2009, 05:29:41 PM
Drive 15 miles to bring supps to a flyin buddy?  I've done it, more than once!  Buddies have done it for me as well!  It's one of the "good" things in the game..
I'd even go to the point of making it a score category... What good are you, or your stinkin score, if you don't give a fatratpoop about anybody else? 
THAT should show in your score as well!!! :aok

If we had the PBY, I'd play a session as Dumbo, setting a safe distance outside a local furball, picking up pilots who can't make it home... Saving their Kills, perks, scores...
If ya want the trip back, jump on... If ya don't, thats fine too, It's your decision!

Sometimes I play, and I'm not really in the mood for the high stress role.. Or, I'm on the phone alot, or for whatever reason, I'm not paying strict attn to the game...
I'd get some enjoyment out of helpin my Buddies, if they choose!!

RC
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Clone155 on June 18, 2009, 05:32:05 PM
When you are captured by the enemy they take all your personal effects, including screenshots, films, and that dirty avi you hid in the system directory so your mother won't find it...
:lol
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Latrobe on June 18, 2009, 07:11:56 PM
I can see the text on country now. "Somebody help me pulleeezzzze. I had two vulchs and had to bail because a red guy got within 5K of me. I want to land them for the adoration of my countrymen. PULLEEZZE HELP. Just drive 15 miles north of A21 and pick me up!"

"Could somebody rescue me? Come on guys...PULLEZZE!"

ect.

It would be the same as when someone posts a mission and wants everyon to join!  :lol

Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: TheAce on June 19, 2009, 12:20:09 AM
Its a good idea, I hate getting 4 kills then having a fighter come after me when i'm rtb'ing with 0 ammo left. JUST KINDA SICK WITH EVERYONE COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT THIS WOULD DO TO CHAT, ALMOST NO ONE TALKS ANYTHING ABOUT THE GAME!!!!!!! AND IF IT'S THAT TOO MUCH OF A PROBLEM I THINK YOU CAN SQUELCH EM!!!!!!!!!! GOD, so many whiney people....
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: bobtom on June 19, 2009, 01:08:51 AM

Squeaker season is in full swing.  ;)
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Larry on June 19, 2009, 01:28:49 AM
and that dirty avi you hid in the system directory so your mother won't find it...

You sir are a genius!!
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: slimmer on June 19, 2009, 02:28:47 AM
 :huh
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: LCCajun on June 19, 2009, 04:33:41 AM
I think it is an ok idea. It would give me something else to do when I am having a bad night of dogfighting. The only downside I see is all the chatter from ppl begging to be picked up. Other then that I don't see where it could hurt anything.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Nemisis on June 19, 2009, 11:40:29 AM
Thank you Cajun. If anyone can see how it would HURT anything then tell me, don't just go "ug", "groan", "lol, this again", " :lol", or any of the other things you guys use to complain with out really giving a reason for your objections, good or otherwise. And RC, I would do the same thing, the only real problem I can see, other than the radio chatter (it CAN'T be worse than some of the things you hear on there), would be that it would get you killed a lot.

<S> Cajun and RC.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: waystin2 on June 19, 2009, 11:44:44 AM
I hate getting 4 kills then having a fighter come after me when i'm rtb'ing with 0 ammo left.

Always set return time based on gas or ammo left before entering a fight.  It gives you a fighting chance at getting back to base.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Nemisis on June 19, 2009, 11:58:27 AM
Well ya, if your about the kills, but if you are just for taking ground and clearing the skys for your transports and bombers then fighting to the last bullet is better.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 19, 2009, 12:26:30 PM
Its a good idea, I hate getting 4 kills then having a fighter come after me when i'm rtb'ing with 0 ammo left. JUST KINDA SICK WITH EVERYONE COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT THIS WOULD DO TO CHAT, ALMOST NO ONE TALKS ANYTHING ABOUT THE GAME!!!!!!! AND IF IT'S THAT TOO MUCH OF A PROBLEM I THINK YOU CAN SQUELCH EM!!!!!!!!!! GOD, so many whiney people....

And this has what to do with rescuing a downed pilot?  I will only assume that you want to be rescued?  That you often need to be rescued?

How about you receive no benefits from being rescued that you wouldn't get from merely bailing out and ending your flight? 

Is this about "points"?

For the immersion factor, sure, why not.  Otherwise?  NAAAAAAA.


wrongway
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Enker on June 19, 2009, 01:01:05 PM
I did some searching and I didn't find anything like this that was newer than 1007 so either I'm not doing a good search or no one brought this up in a while so either help me correct my mistakes or no whining.

Well anyway, I thought it would be nice to be able to pick up downed pilots and make it so they don't count as "bailed" or "shot down" and they won't loose any perks, vids, or screen shots, or whatever they have. I want to be able to land my C47 near (like half a mile or so) a couple of downed pilots and pick them up; once I am in range a prompt could appear on screen like the accept join thing. It would also be cool to be able to drive by in a PT boat or an LVT or something. You could do it with a jeep or a half-track or whatever you want. Just think about it. Since it would ba a high risk job you could have the ammount of perks set to 5 or so times that of a normal sortie.
Wait, are you one of those loonies that think score matters?
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: strong10 on June 19, 2009, 01:14:16 PM
Wait, are you one of those loonies that think score matters?


I think they are more for adding a less stressful, less competitive dimension to the game similar to resupplying a base or bringing supp's to a gv.  The score thing would just be an incentive for the downed pilot to request help to give the "rescuer's" something to do other than being fodder..

I like the idea..
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: TheAce on June 19, 2009, 02:50:11 PM
And this has what to do with rescuing a downed pilot?  I will only assume that you want to be rescued?  That you often need to be rescued?

How about you receive no benefits from being rescued that you wouldn't get from merely bailing out and ending your flight? 

Is this about "points"?

For the immersion factor, sure, why not.  Otherwise?  NAAAAAAA.


wrongway

AWwrgway I do not need to be rescued very often, I'm stating a fact about how whiny people are about chat, and like I said almost no one talks about the game. And just like always Awwrgwy your always there to bash me or convert my words into some way that makes me seem more "noobish." So for the sake of all of us, stop being a jack ass.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 19, 2009, 03:06:45 PM
AWwrgway I do not need to be rescued very often, I'm stating a fact about how whiny people are about chat, and like I said almost no one talks about the game. And just like always Awwrgwy your always there to bash me or convert my words into some way that makes me seem more "noobish." So for the sake of all of us, stop being a jack ass.

You don't need any help from me.

 :aok

And, other than the personal attack, I'm still not really getting your train of thought here.

Just trying to have a discussion.


wrongway
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: TheAce on June 19, 2009, 03:15:34 PM
And, other than the personal attack, I'm still not really getting your train of thought here.

AWwrgwy if you look through the thread you'll see multiple people who are whinying about what it would do to chat, that's what I'm talking about.   

Glad we could sort that out.                 :salute
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Nemisis on June 19, 2009, 03:16:51 PM
Wait, are you one of those loonies that think score matters?

Nope, I just want another ride in that Ar234. Dang that thing was fast! But then I crashed while landing it and hey, what do you know? I got to earn it again and if you got like 5 times the normal perks then I will earn it 5 times as fast.

The only other thing score is good for is taking over a tg and keeping some newb from destroying it and ruining your plan.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Speed55 on June 20, 2009, 07:08:57 AM
If anyone can see how it would HURT anything then tell me


I don't think it would hurt the game, although i'd rather see other things instead.  If people want to wait an hour to be picked up by a goon, only to be shot down again, then that's their choice.

But the fact remains that if you are on the ground, then you were shot down. You don't get to keep your perks, why, because you were already shot down.  The only difference in the score sheet statistics that i could see would be changing the captured to bailed.

There would also be a big jump in kill stats for everyone, because of all the goons flying around.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Rich46yo on June 20, 2009, 05:00:52 PM
AWwrgwy if you look through the thread you'll see multiple people who are whinying about what it would do to chat, that's what I'm talking about.   

Glad we could sort that out.                 :salute

Boy you just have to love these Elvis sightings, with 15 posts in 2 days on the board, talking about how players are "whining" when they post their opinions, "or is it whinying"?

Which Elvis is this one yathink? :lol
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: TheAce on June 20, 2009, 05:48:18 PM
Boy you just have to love these Elvis sightings, with 15 posts in 2 days on the board, talking about how players are "whining" when they post their opinions, "or is it whinying"?

Which Elvis is this one yathink? :lol

WOW, your attacking me cause I spelled it wrong? WOW, I'm not saying everyone who posts an opinion is whining, I'm just saying that if you look back through all the posts you'll see many people whining about noobs crying for help.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Nemisis on June 20, 2009, 06:28:25 PM
Thank you Ace. Guys, it is not a big deal to listen to radio chatter. And you wouldn't have to wait for an hour or for a C47 to just happen to fly by. I seems you guys don't enirely read my posts  :o=you. I said they would have a flair gun, or would have an icon on the map or something; they would be visible within 1 map square, and would be more acurate the more you zoomed in. And wouldn't you enjoy more kills to earn perked fighers? I myself can fly either a bomber OR a figher.

AND none of you have showed that an administrator has said boo to this idea or have provided any way that this would harm or negativly impact play. Untill then, I shall disregard all posts saying flat out no, and consider my idea still a valid point and a good one at that.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 20, 2009, 06:54:06 PM

AND none of you have showed that an administrator has said boo to this idea or have provided any way that this would harm or negativly impact play. Untill then, I shall disregard all posts saying flat out no, and consider my idea still a valid point and a good one at that.

Silence speaks loudly.


wrongway
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Nemisis on June 20, 2009, 07:15:49 PM
Yes, and it also shows the either you are giving me the cold shoulder or can't find how it would hurt or negatively gameplay, or can't get an administrator to side with you.........or that you haven't even tried, I don't know wether it is from speculation that they won't or a lack of considered importance.
<S>,
       Nemisis
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: bravoa8 on June 20, 2009, 10:15:15 PM
it would make them game more realistic :aok
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Nemisis on June 20, 2009, 11:03:02 PM
That is a big part of the game. And if I am tired of dodging fighters while picking up newbs then I can always up as a figher and advance my perk score there.

While we are on the topic of players getting shot down, I always thougt it would be funny if everytime someone was flying too low and got killed by his own bomb blast, it should say (lets say you just did this)

bravoa8:  I have busted myself.

it could be in green for everybody to see and laugh at (the message, not the person).
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: zack1234 on June 21, 2009, 06:04:49 AM
Hurrah! someone i had the same idea :lol
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: The Grinch on June 21, 2009, 06:38:18 AM
That was a very good idea :salute
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: The Fugitive on June 21, 2009, 09:15:01 AM
Why would anyone wait to be picked up? Three quarters of the people flying these days are "gamers". They are from the WoW, COD, and such game systems. They are born and bred to "INSTANT ACTION". nobody is going to pretend to float around in a sea and wait for someone else....who might be bored with fighting to swing by in a slow plane to pick them up and fly slowly back to base so they can re-up.

While it might be "cool" to try it, it couldn't possibly be worth the time and effort ( 4 - 6 months) to add to the game. Remember HTC is a small company and they work very hard to keep it that way so that THEY retain control of the direction the game goes in.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Lukanian-7 on June 21, 2009, 12:23:08 PM
I'm expecting another lashout from wrngway.

:lol you should'nt piss him off, that one... he'll bite your ear off =D
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: strong10 on June 21, 2009, 02:31:41 PM


While it might be "cool" to try it, it couldn't possibly be worth the time and effort ( 4 - 6 months) to add to the game. Remember HTC is a small company and they work very hard to keep it that way so that THEY retain control of the direction the game goes in.

Hence the forum name: "Wishlist"

There are a lot of score fruits out there that probably would wait..
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: TonyJoey on June 21, 2009, 03:03:33 PM
I can see the text on country now. "Somebody help me pulleeezzzze. I had two vulchs and had to bail because a red guy got within 5K of me. I want to land them for the adoration of my countrymen. PULLEEZZE HELP. Just drive 15 miles north of A21 and pick me up!"

"Could somebody rescue me? Come on guys...PULLEZZE!"

ect.
:rofl
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: FYB on June 21, 2009, 07:14:55 PM
I did some searching and I didn't find anything like this that was newer than 1007 so either I'm not doing a good search or no one brought this up in a while so either help me correct my mistakes or no whining.

Well anyway, I thought it would be nice to be able to pick up downed pilots and make it so they don't count as "bailed" or "shot down" and they won't loose any perks, vids, or screen shots, or whatever they have. I want to be able to land my C47 near (like half a mile or so) a couple of downed pilots and pick them up; once I am in range a prompt could appear on screen like the accept join thing. It would also be cool to be able to drive by in a PT boat or an LVT or something. You could do it with a jeep or a half-track or whatever you want. Just think about it. Since it would ba a high risk job you could have the ammount of perks set to 5 or so times that of a normal sortie.
Although it sounds "awesome", its most likely that a player will not wait the 10 maybe 30 minutes to be saved from a single lose when he or she can be back in the air five seconds later to not only even his or her score, but surpass it by one or as many as he or she is capable of. Not to mention, he or she will have to wait for you to land, and what if you yourself becomes downed, what then?

I give you +1 for effort, but in reality (Aces High), players will not wait 20 minutes for one less lose.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 21, 2009, 11:12:49 PM
I'm expecting another lashout from wrngway.

:lol you should'nt piss him off, that one... he'll bite your ear off =D

I don't "lash out."   :D

I merely attempt to introduce a teeny, tiny bit of perspective.



wrongway
(doesn't bite)
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: phatzo on June 21, 2009, 11:16:08 PM
it would be just like my 20 year old son at 2am sunday morning
"Pleeeeeeeeeze come and pick us up"
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: Nemisis on June 22, 2009, 11:22:38 AM
I merely attempt to introduce a teeny, tiny bit of perspective.


My oscar Wrong Way, you lash out at me. And I enjoy your "Teeny, tiny bit of perspective" being shot at me as if from the gun on a P47. I am not saying I want you to do that but it is enjoyable sometimes.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: waystin2 on June 22, 2009, 01:05:08 PM
I pay to play, not wait for a taxi.  I guarantee you that each and every towered pilot gets a brand new airplane if they want it everytime!  It is an ok idea, but not a high priority for myself.
Title: Re: Rescue of downed pilots
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 22, 2009, 07:24:52 PM

My oscar Wrong Way, you lash out at me. And I enjoy your "Teeny, tiny bit of perspective" being shot at me as if from the gun on a P47. I am not saying I want you to do that but it is enjoyable sometimes.

Lash out at you, I think not.  Mighty self-important there, aren't we?  You're just very prolific at the moment.

The "tiny bit of perspective" is like playing Devil's Advocate. 

How much work to coad vs. return?
Can you already do what you want to do now?
Would it do what you think it would do?  Would the outcome be what you think it would be?
Are you sure that's what you want?


Besides, Banshee7 and I were nominated to be the unofficial wishlist filters.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,262068.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,262068.0.html)


 :devil


wrongway



I wouldn't complain if they added everything ever wished for.  Lots of work for the 2-4 coaders.  What work is more important to you?  Or, to them?  Many have been wished for ad nauseum, which seems work sometimes.  Some have been wished for before and actually rejected, hence, it ain't gonna happen.

As for a shot at you, I couldn't help but notice
...was this added since chrismas or somethin, I wouldn't know, my computer doesn't work with AH2, and I still don't want to shell out a couple hundred bucks for a new one.
And it makes me wonder what all the fuss is about from someone who doesn't even currently play the game he wants so many additions and changes to?