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Title: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: DVDA on June 18, 2009, 06:36:47 PM
Finally saw the movie Pearl Harbor and I must say (since this movie is so historically accurate) Japanese pilots are terrible at flying!

8 Zeros vs 2 P-40 and the zeros started on the P-40s' tail from a vulch/take off and they couldnt land a hit. They spent nearly 8 minutes chasing around the P-40s at about 200 yards out & couldnt even land a spray hit. 

Also I know Zeros are made of Aluminum Foil but I nearly fell out of my chair laughing when Earl (Tom Seizemore) shot a Zero out of the sky using a shotgun :rofl

Another part i loved was the Val "Dive Bombers" dropping bombs like B-17s
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 18, 2009, 07:27:13 PM


Another part i loved was the Val "Dive Bombers" dropping bombs like B-17s

Kates are level bombers, not Vals.  And yes, they did do level bombing at Pearl Harbor.

I will not subject myself to that, movie?


wrongway
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: DVDA on June 18, 2009, 07:47:39 PM
Right but the planes featured in the movie were D3A2s Vals not Kats,

The kats showns were dropping torpedos
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: Belial on June 18, 2009, 08:02:21 PM
When i watched it i had the same exact reaction, the shotgun kill HILARIOUS.  And as for the p40 fight LMAO hollywood noobs. :x
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: Hap on June 18, 2009, 08:03:28 PM
Fine movie.  Pfft on all you Johnny Rainclouds.
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: PFactorDave on June 18, 2009, 08:09:52 PM
I saw that movie once...  I'd still like to get the wasted time back.

Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: DVDA on June 18, 2009, 08:10:18 PM
Could have been better if they had extended the Battle of Britain scenes, removed all the love story with the nurses, extended the pearl harbor scenes and completely removed the Doolittle Raid...

Its not that I dont appreciate the Doolittle Raid but come on did you see the way they crashed those B-25s! When your running out of gas you dont 45 degree angle your bomber into the ground to try and crash land...oh and not to mention they lived through that crash
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: Belial on June 18, 2009, 08:23:10 PM
It was good in the sense I laughed reary reary hard whilst drinkin Coorse Extra Gold wondering if I was drunk, or movie just so unbelievable.
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: AKP on June 18, 2009, 08:25:44 PM
Did anyone notice some of the ships they got on film were MODERN US Navy ships?  That... just... annoys me.  Along with everything else about the move too.
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: DVDA on June 18, 2009, 08:30:14 PM
I also liked how Cuba was firing the .50 directly at the planes when they were flying by and not leading the targets...yet he was still able to drop them
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: Treize69 on June 18, 2009, 08:32:28 PM
I like the fact that they cast Ben Affleck in the lead and expected anyone to take it seriously.
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: Fulmar on June 18, 2009, 08:57:20 PM
FFS ppl:
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/155700

(http://media.southparkstudios.com/media/images/1110/1110_michael_bay.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: DVDA on June 18, 2009, 09:26:23 PM
What a twist!
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: uptown on June 18, 2009, 09:35:24 PM
Ben "thegoose" Afflak should have been in Brokeback Mountain :salute
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: DVDA on June 18, 2009, 09:43:29 PM
Song by DVDA - Pearl Harbor Sucked & I Miss You

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pM8PrqY5Rg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pM8PrqY5Rg)


No not me but now you guys know where my name comes from :-D
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: flatiron1 on June 18, 2009, 10:06:46 PM
Personally I thought it was a great movie. Any movie that honors the greatest generation is OK by me no matter if it is not exactly perfect as far as what planes they had to use in the filming. It's not like that had a huge inventory to chose from. On a personal note one of my uncles was at Schofield Barracks on that fateful day. God bless you Uncle Virgil (Army), Dennis (Navy) and John(Navy) and all the others that did what had to be done.


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Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: 007Rusty on June 18, 2009, 10:07:41 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: Latrobe on June 19, 2009, 06:05:45 AM
Pearl Harbor was one of my favorite movies, along with "Enemy at the Gate", "Winter War" (movie is all in Finnish, eng subs), "Saving Pvt Ryan", and the "Band of Brothers series"
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: Swager on June 19, 2009, 06:15:06 AM
Pearl Harbor is a good movie.  It is not a documentrary, it is a movie.
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: -tronski- on June 19, 2009, 06:18:07 AM
I just found it funny that the lead nurse wouldn't give Ben one for the road when he heads off to fight the hun - cause she ddint want to spoil their love, but jumps his best mate after 10mins in a P-40!

 Tronsky
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: Treize69 on June 19, 2009, 06:30:54 AM
No not me but now you guys know where my name comes from :-D

I just thought you were a fan of 'Orgasmo'.
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: RTHolmes on June 19, 2009, 07:21:06 AM
FFS ppl:
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/155700

(http://media.southparkstudios.com/media/images/1110/1110_michael_bay.jpg)

 :rofl
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: soda72 on June 19, 2009, 09:49:43 AM
The Pearl Harbor movie sucked..

I made the mistake of watching it once.  The only scene I can remember from the movie was one where the nurses are running out of the building during the start of the attack with their upper shirts unbuttoned... :x


Movies can't get any better than that bombs exploding in the back scene filled with half naked women running around,  looks like the director did know what he was doing...

 :rofl  :lol




Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: trigger2 on June 19, 2009, 10:00:40 AM
I just found it funny that the lead nurse wouldn't give Ben one for the road when he heads off to fight the hun - cause she ddint want to spoil their love, but jumps his best mate after 10mins in a P-40!

 Tronsky

There's nothing innacurate with that though! You know how the ack can be. ;)

I found the movie suprisingly dissapointing...
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: WilldCrd on June 19, 2009, 10:43:02 AM
My wife LOVES that movie.....mainly for the mushy lovey dovey aspects. we have had more than one figh...errr disagreements regarding the accuracy of the film. The only thing they got 100% accurate was that there really was a attack on pearl by the japanese.
If you watch the film for purely entertainment reasons and try really really hard to NOT think of the historical stuff ie. pretend its all fiction...it still sucks but its watchable with the wife (she forces me to endure it on occasion)  :cry
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: RufusLeaking on June 19, 2009, 10:44:58 AM
Pearl Harbor was one of my favorite movies, along with "Enemy at the Gate", "Winter War" (movie is all in Finnish, eng subs), "Saving Pvt Ryan", and the "Band of Brothers series"

You left out "The Battle of Britain."  Great flying scenes, pre computer, and historical accuracy.  Some time is wasted on the obligatory romance subplot, but a better movie than "Pearl Harbor."

The CGI in Pearl Harbor is great, but the plot and gross inaccuracies are very bad.  The movie industry is now capable of accurate images of large formations.  The are awesome scenes - the Japanese planes roar from behind the camera's point of view towards the harbor, the initial low pass of the Kates - the hair stands up on the back of my neck.

Another Hollywood moment in "Pearl Harbor" is the devastation wrought by single B-25s.  

Oh, yeah, and a pilot who stuttered.



Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: lowZX14 on June 19, 2009, 10:47:20 AM
Song by DVDA - Pearl Harbor Sucked & I Miss You

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pM8PrqY5Rg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pM8PrqY5Rg)


No not me but now you guys know where my name comes from :-D
One of my favorites, I guess because it came out while I was in Iraq and we died laughing watching that movie........
Hans Brix?  Ohhh no.  Oh herro.     And of course, Derka Derka Derka  :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: Crash Orange on June 19, 2009, 12:00:35 PM
You left out "The Battle of Britain."  Great flying scenes, pre computer, and historical accuracy.  Some time is wasted on the obligatory romance subplot, but a better movie than "Pearl Harbor."

And it had honest-to-goodness Hurris... in the air, even! IMHO the best depiction of aerial combat ever.

The CGI in Pearl Harbor is great, but the plot and gross inaccuracies are very bad.  The movie industry is now capable of accurate images of large formations.  The are awesome scenes - the Japanese planes roar from behind the camera's point of view towards the harbor, the initial low pass of the Kates - the hair stands up on the back of my neck.

Misuse of computer graphics is ruining action movies. Pearl Harbor is possibly the most egregious example of this. Instead of using CG to shoot scenes that couldn't otherwise be shot, Bey uses it to shoot scenes and show POVs that couldn't possibly HAPPEN. Camera at a fixed point 10,000 feet off the ground while planes roar by (of course "Dogfights" is the all-time worst for this with the same identical camera shake EVERY time anything does a flyby. How does a camera that couldn't exist get shaken?). Torpedoes in Pearl Harbor filmed from below through crystal-clear water by a camera 50+ feet under the surface. Gulf War-style "bomb's eye views". Indestructible cameras inside massive explosions while debris and body parts shoot past. All that crap exists for no reason other than to show off how much money they're spending on FX, and it yanks me right out of the scene and screams "Oh yeah, it's just a bad movie".

But the single stupidest thing in the movie, the stupidest thing EVER in any war movie, bar none, was a shot ripped off from, yes, THE THREE STOOGES. That's the bomb (wrong type, of course) that killed the Arizona falling clunkity-clunk-clunk through the ship's decks at about 20 mph and landing, completely intact, tail fins and all, in the food locker of the galley, where the cooks - and why on earth are there still cooks in the galley peeling potatoes or whatever 15 minutes into the attacks? - stand around gawking at it for a few seconds before it explodes. At that point I was banging my head against the coffee table pleading with an uncaring universe to make the pain go away.   :cry

But taking out every historical and technical inaccuracy, this movie is still a steaming pile of godawful crap. Like any Michael Bey film, it is two hours of the stupidest, most mind-numbing and horribly overused cliches, one after another, with mugging and hamming and every kind of horrible acting even by people like Kate Beckinsale who can, believe it or not, actually act. He steals from the very worst sources -  half the movie is a rehash of Star Wars, for Pete's sake! (Not that I don't like Star Wars, but using it as source material for what is supposed to be a historical drama?!?!?) And the dialogue! Sweet mother of Mary! George Lucas couldn't write lines that bad. ED WOOD couldn't write lines that bad.

Given the amount of money and skilled labor put into it as well as the seriousness of the subject matter, Pearl Harbor is the single worst movie ever made in or out of Hollywood. Worse than Santa Claus vs. the Martians, worse than Battlefield Earth, and yes, worse than Gigli. And I think that's about all that can be said.
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: Helm on June 19, 2009, 12:57:11 PM
And it had honest-to-goodness Hurris... in the air, even! IMHO the best depiction of aerial combat ever.

Misuse of computer graphics is ruining action movies. Pearl Harbor is possibly the most egregious example of this. Instead of using CG to shoot scenes that couldn't otherwise be shot, Bey uses it to shoot scenes and show POVs that couldn't possibly HAPPEN. Camera at a fixed point 10,000 feet off the ground while planes roar by (of course "Dogfights" is the all-time worst for this with the same identical camera shake EVERY time anything does a flyby. How does a camera that couldn't exist get shaken?). Torpedoes in Pearl Harbor filmed from below through crystal-clear water by a camera 50+ feet under the surface. Gulf War-style "bomb's eye views". Indestructible cameras inside massive explosions while debris and body parts shoot past. All that crap exists for no reason other than to show off how much money they're spending on FX, and it yanks me right out of the scene and screams "Oh yeah, it's just a bad movie".

But the single stupidest thing in the movie, the stupidest thing EVER in any war movie, bar none, was a shot ripped off from, yes, THE THREE STOOGES. That's the bomb (wrong type, of course) that killed the Arizona falling clunkity-clunk-clunk through the ship's decks at about 20 mph and landing, completely intact, tail fins and all, in the food locker of the galley, where the cooks - and why on earth are there still cooks in the galley peeling potatoes or whatever 15 minutes into the attacks? - stand around gawking at it for a few seconds before it explodes. At that point I was banging my head against the coffee table pleading with an uncaring universe to make the pain go away.   :cry

But taking out every historical and technical inaccuracy, this movie is still a steaming pile of godawful crap. Like any Michael Bey film, it is two hours of the stupidest, most mind-numbing and horribly overused cliches, one after another, with mugging and hamming and every kind of horrible acting even by people like Kate Beckinsale who can, believe it or not, actually act. He steals from the very worst sources -  half the movie is a rehash of Star Wars, for Pete's sake! (Not that I don't like Star Wars, but using it as source material for what is supposed to be a historical drama?!?!?) And the dialogue! Sweet mother of Mary! George Lucas couldn't write lines that bad. ED WOOD couldn't write lines that bad.

Given the amount of money and skilled labor put into it as well as the seriousness of the subject matter, Pearl Harbor is the single worst movie ever made in or out of Hollywood. Worse than Santa Claus vs. the Martians, worse than Battlefield Earth, and yes, worse than Gigli. And I think that's about all that can be said.

Crash!....dont hold back!! ...tell us how you really feel!!!     :D


Helm ...out
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: BoilerDown on June 19, 2009, 01:14:38 PM
LOL I wish I was still a Netflix subscriber so I could go find my review of Pearl Harbor... it was on the same lines as Crash's.
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: Nilsen on June 19, 2009, 01:22:01 PM
Pearl Harbor is right up there with Top Gun and those other movies with that kid flying an F16 (cant remember the name of them)
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 19, 2009, 01:50:20 PM
Pearl Harbor is right up there with Top Gun and those other movies with that kid flying an F16 (cant remember the name of them)

Iron Eagle?  I, II, III, IV....?

WW2 fighters vs. whatever?


wrongway
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: RTHolmes on June 19, 2009, 02:00:48 PM
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excellent review :aok  :lol
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: Nilsen on June 19, 2009, 02:03:25 PM
Iron Eagle?  I, II, III, IV....?

WW2 fighters vs. whatever?


wrongway

Iron Eagle yes... excuse me... im gonna go hurl
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: soda72 on June 19, 2009, 02:17:55 PM
Iron Eagle yes... excuse me... im gonna go hurl

Did you continue to watch the other films after the first one?

 :lol

you could have stop at one ya know...

 :D
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: akusher on June 19, 2009, 02:22:29 PM
Iron Eagle yes... excuse me... im gonna go hurl

Cheesy as hell... as far as cheesily-epic soundtracks--pretty much unparalleled.
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: Nilsen on June 19, 2009, 02:26:16 PM
Did you continue to watch the other films after the first one?

 :lol

you could have stop at one ya know...

 :D

I was young and dumb at the time hoping the next one would be better... i mean how could it possibly get worse. Oh boy was i in for a suprise every time  :uhoh

Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: soda72 on June 19, 2009, 03:04:22 PM
I was young and dumb at the time hoping the next one would be better... i mean how could it possibly get worse. Oh boy was i in for a suprise every time  :uhoh

Sounds like a guy who fell in love with an ugly women and is to embarrassed to be seen with her in public...

 :)
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 19, 2009, 03:09:49 PM
Sounds like a guy who fell in love with an ugly women and is to embarrassed to be seen with her in public...

 :)

Isn't that someone who rides a moped?


wrongway
Title: Re: Finally saw Pearl Habor (I Know i am late)....
Post by: Nilsen on June 19, 2009, 03:10:42 PM
Sounds like a guy who fell in love with an ugly women and is to embarrassed to be seen with her in public...

 :)

lol touche!  :D