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Title: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: Bruv119 on June 20, 2009, 12:40:48 AM
Ok so we are getting the Brewster and I16 that will provide some very interesting early war setups how about throwing in this early war bird to mix it up with the likes of the emil , hurri and spit 1's.   

With the Finns getting what they want surely the Frenchies need some loving too. 




Dewoitine D.520


The Dewoitine D.520 was slower than the Messerschmitt Bf.109E but clearly superior in manoeuvrability. A comparison was made on April 21, 1940, with an intact Bf.109E-3 that had been brought down in French territory. This comparison highlighted the fine qualities of the best French fighter of World War 11. Had France not surrendered in June 1940, the Dewoitine D.520's career might have been comparable to that of British and German fighters. Of the 775 D.520s built during the war, only 36 were on front-line duty on May 10, 1940, too few to have a significant effect.
 

Specifications (Dewoitine D.520)

Type: Single Seat Fighter

Design: Dewoitine

Manufacturer: SNCA du Midi

Powerplant: One 935 hp (698 kw) Hispano-Suiza 12Y 45 12-cylinder inline, liquid cooled, piston engine.

Performance: Maximum speed 332 mph (535 km/h) at 18,100 ft (5500 m); service ceiling 34,540 ft (10500 m).

Range: 552 miles (890 km) with internal fuel stores.

Weight: Empty 4,490 lbs (2036 kg) with a maximum take-off weight of 6,160 lbs (2790 kg).

Dimensions: Span 33 ft 6 in (10.20 m); length 28 ft 9 in (8.76 m); height 8 ft 5 in (2.57 m); wing area 171.84 sq ft (15.97 sq m).

Armament: One 20 mm Hispano-Suiza 404 cannon firing through the propeller hub, plus four 7.5 mm (0.295 in) MAC 34 M39 machine guns.

Variants: D.520 (prototype and production), D.521 (a single D.520 with a 1,030 hp (768 kw) Rolls Royce Merlin engine but this proved unsatisfactory), D.524 (the single D.521 with a 1,200 hp (895 kw) Hispano-Suiza 12Z engine),

Operators: France, Luftwaffe, Regia Aeronautica, Bulgaria, Rumania, Free French Forces.


link

http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/photo_albums/timeline/ww2/Dewoitine%20D.520.htm
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: moot on June 20, 2009, 12:43:47 AM
This Frenchie wants an Me410.  IIRC Straffette wants some Yak or other..  and Frenchy don't count cause he's spoiled with real toys already.
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: Bruv119 on June 20, 2009, 12:47:02 AM
if you get that me410  I want a beaufighter!   
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: moot on June 20, 2009, 12:51:26 AM
Pretty sure that's a gimmie, considering the rumors.
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: Bruv119 on June 20, 2009, 12:52:53 AM
Pretty sure that's a gimmie, considering the rumors.

rumours???   tell me more, tell me more.
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: lyric1 on June 20, 2009, 12:55:58 AM
rumours???   tell me more, tell me more.
Ditto.
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: moot on June 20, 2009, 12:56:47 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 20, 2009, 01:06:15 AM
rumours???   tell me more, tell me more.

He should know.  Not only did he start them, he is perpetuating them as well.


wrongway
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: moot on June 20, 2009, 01:19:09 AM
Oh really.. how's that?
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 20, 2009, 01:26:57 AM
Oh really.. how's that?

Seems obvious.  At least the perpetuating part.

 :D

wrongway
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: Bruv119 on June 20, 2009, 01:29:55 AM
(http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/albums/other/dewoitine_d_520.jpg)
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: Noir on June 20, 2009, 06:16:12 AM
YES I want a D520  :aok

D520 versus I16 vs brewster, Early war ought to be fun !!!!

Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: sveno on June 20, 2009, 06:28:15 AM
+1

The french deserves a plane.

I rather would have a bleriot - can't have it all .)
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: Noir on June 20, 2009, 06:31:15 AM
a bleriot ? can't think of any
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: E25280 on June 20, 2009, 09:25:30 PM
only 36 were on front-line duty on May 10, 1940, too few to have a significant effect.
I agree that the French should have a fighter, but since they have none at the moment, why not start with the more common ones first?
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: Bruv119 on June 21, 2009, 12:26:13 AM
I agree that the French should have a fighter, but since they have none at the moment, why not start with the more common ones first?

Of the 775 D.520s built during the war
,  this number is significantly higher than some other things already in game.

The D.520 would be the pick of the French bunch.
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: Castle51 on June 21, 2009, 06:03:51 PM
I'm not sure if the game is set up for these kind of aircraft.  As it stands right now no other aircraft in the game has the ability to fly in reverse so it might be a challenge to model.





                                            :rofl
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: SmokinLoon on June 21, 2009, 06:17:31 PM
I'm not sure if the game is set up for these kind of aircraft.  As it stands right now no other aircraft in the game has the ability to fly in reverse so it might be a challenge to model.
                                         :rofl

Ya know, I dont feel sorry for the French any more than anyone else... but those "jokes" are not even remotely amusing anymore.  Once you learn that it wasnt the French military that lost vs the Germans but rather an indecisive French government you'll understand why those of us who know history roll our eyes   :rolleyes:  when these types of jokes are made.  Dont get me wrong, I am not saying the French would have stopped the Germans, but they would not have been rolled over like they were if only the French government would have unleashed the military to do what it was capable of doing.

btw... the D.520 would be a great addition to AH2.   :aok    I've been saying that for ahile now.  It was more than a match vs the early 109's.   :)
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: Castle51 on June 21, 2009, 06:43:43 PM
Its ok, its just a joke and it was comming sooner or later.  BTW I am a Frenchman!
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: Noir on June 21, 2009, 07:36:17 PM
Its ok, its just a joke and it was comming sooner or later.  BTW I am a Frenchman!

we found one more !
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: TonyJoey on June 21, 2009, 08:59:06 PM
 :aok


Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: B4Buster on June 21, 2009, 10:28:25 PM
I think French cowardice jokes is a slap in the face to the brave French resistance fighters who were willing to sacrifice their lives at such long odds.

+1 on the plane. Being French I'd make sure to fly it  :D
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: moot on June 22, 2009, 12:47:49 AM
Holy froggie convention batman!
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: frank3 on June 22, 2009, 05:16:12 AM
It's surprising to see yet another wish for a French vehicle ending up in retreat-jokes and people commenting on those...

But +1 on the wish  :aok
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: Ruah on June 22, 2009, 05:34:34 AM
When the Yak-3 comes, I will fly my colors and make you all cry!!
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: straffo on June 22, 2009, 07:01:46 AM
ditto !
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: Easyscor on June 22, 2009, 09:49:16 AM
+1 for the D.520.
It was also important in Morocco.
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: Sakai on June 22, 2009, 10:03:36 AM
The Germans and Italians used them until they were worn out.  I think I've got some Itai skins on them in Courage Alone. 
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: BlauK on June 22, 2009, 10:40:49 AM
Yes  :aok

Perfect candidates:

Morane Saulnier 406
http://www.mo-na-ko.net/images5/LetMoraneSaulnierMS406.jpg
or
Curtiss Hawk 75A
http://www.mo-na-ko.net/images5/LetCurtissHawk75A-1.jpg

 :cool:
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: Tilt on June 22, 2009, 10:42:18 AM
The French should be as happy with a Yak3 as the Finns will be with the Brewster IMO.
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: Noir on June 22, 2009, 04:23:16 PM
The French should be as happy with a Yak3 as the Finns will be with the Brewster IMO.

If we ever get it !
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: Bino on July 04, 2009, 10:03:12 AM
Yes  :aok

Perfect candidates:

Morane Saulnier 406
http://www.mo-na-ko.net/images5/LetMoraneSaulnierMS406.jpg
or
Curtiss Hawk 75A
http://www.mo-na-ko.net/images5/LetCurtissHawk75A-1.jpg

 :cool:

+1   :aok

Looking forward to a future "Sitzkrieg" Big Scenario, with - among others - D.520, M-S 406, Hawk, Fairey Battle, Bf-109D...

Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: waystin2 on July 04, 2009, 03:19:31 PM
If we ever get it !


Heresy!!!  Yak-3 Yak-3!
(http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/yak-3m.jpg)
Title: Re: what we need is a French Plane!
Post by: B4Buster on July 04, 2009, 07:28:36 PM
good pic. waystin.

I belive one of those Yaks3s in the picture is owned by a German man by the name of Chris Vogelgesang (farthest aircraft away) . He and his plane were in a 'WARBIRDS International' magazing a few months ago.