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Title: What's this ?
Post by: Saintaw on February 24, 2000, 04:28:00 AM
  (http://saintaw.tripod.com/untitled.jpg)  

I don't know what it is, bt I know I'd like to try it out   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)


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Title: What's this ?
Post by: leonid on February 24, 2000, 05:04:00 AM
That's the plane Hristo wants to see come to AH  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)  A Dornier 33-something.

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Title: What's this ?
Post by: Hristo on February 24, 2000, 05:29:00 AM
You are right, Leonid, it would be nice to try it out  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Do 335 Pfeil. Never entered service, was more or less a prototype during last years of WW2.

With 2 engines in one fuselage, the drag was significantly low for a 2 engined plane. This and power loading resulted in very good speed and acceleration. The plane was armed with powerful MK 103 30mm cannons, and MG 151 15mm cowl guns. Also, I read that turn performance was actually better than expected (although it was not a Zeke by any means  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)).

It is just another what-if mid/late 1945 plane, although prototypes flew in 1943, if I am not mistaken. And yes, I know it is ugly  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Juzz ?
Title: What's this ?
Post by: Westy on February 24, 2000, 08:41:00 AM
That's the plane that I want to chase around the skies and beat up in my P-47"M"   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

-Westy
Title: What's this ?
Post by: juzz on February 24, 2000, 04:45:00 PM
?

The prototype Do335 V1 first flew on October 26, 1943.

Did you know the Do335A had an internal bomb capacity of 1000lbs?

Acceleration better than a Bf109K, good speed from the deck(360mph) to high alt(450mph+), big guns(esp. B model), good rollrate, turns better than a Fw190A-8...

The only bad thing about the Do 335 if it was in AH would be the rearward view. The real ones did have a mirror though...
Title: What's this ?
Post by: SnakeEyes on February 24, 2000, 10:49:00 PM
Wouldn't especially want to try to bail out of one.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Title: What's this ?
Post by: Hristo on February 25, 2000, 12:36:00 AM
Didn't it have an ejection seat ?
Title: What's this ?
Post by: Mutt on February 25, 2000, 01:05:00 AM
Yes Hristo, it did have one of the first ejection seats. From the article I read, it had a few mishaps. In one instance, it ripped the arms off one of the test pilots.  It seemed that he grabbed the wrong handles or something.  OUCH, a nasty lesson.  I gotta look for the article again.

Mutt
Title: What's this ?
Post by: wells on February 25, 2000, 01:05:00 AM
Yep, one of, if not the first with an ejection seat.  The rear prop and fins also were 'ejectable' for obvious reasons!  It had the range, speed and endurance to fly standing patrols that the 109's and 190's did not.  Man, the Germans had some scary stuff at the end!
Title: What's this ?
Post by: Hristo on February 25, 2000, 03:22:00 AM
Wow, wouldn't it be nice to try it in the what-if arena and be called a "Dornier-dweeb" ?  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

To put it against stuff like Bearcat, P 47M and such....surely will be nice.
Title: What's this ?
Post by: juzz on February 25, 2000, 06:36:00 AM
Wait a second... something isn't right...

The Do335 thread has all been done before!

Go search for it.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Here's an interesting tidbit though - the Do335 had a reversible pitch front propellor. That could make it the fastest deccelerating plane too, I suppose!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: What's this ?
Post by: weazel on February 25, 2000, 07:07:00 AM
 http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum9/HTML/000022.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum9/HTML/000022.html)

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Title: What's this ?
Post by: nabe on February 25, 2000, 10:33:00 AM
 (http://www.ceres.dti.ne.jp/~nabezo/AH/J7W1.jpg)

Anyone know this plane? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: What's this ?
Post by: juzz on February 25, 2000, 07:09:00 PM
Kyushu J7W1 Shinden.

I think only two prototypes were completed, and of those only one was flown for a total of 45 minutes...  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

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Title: What's this ?
Post by: Citabr on February 26, 2000, 04:27:00 AM
there is many a tail of german test pilots loosing their arms ejecting from that bird (ugh)


seems the handles they pulled for rocket ejection was attached to the plane hence the loss of life and limb.
Title: What's this ?
Post by: pzvg on February 26, 2000, 08:24:00 AM
Do 335 a6 By VE day about 90 had been completed and 20 delivered to combat units. So it possibly did see limited combat,most likely time was not enough to train people on the new bird. And here's a tidbit, during testing, speeds of 348 mph were recorded with the front prop feathered :P:

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Title: What's this ?
Post by: troxel on February 26, 2000, 04:30:00 PM
Actually, Bob Johnson ran into one flying alone by the Belgian coastline in '44.  His flight of P-47's dove to take a look, but as they caught up, the Dornier pilot got a glimpse, pushed the mixture into auto-rich and pulled away like a rocket!
Title: What's this ?
Post by: SnakeEyes on February 26, 2000, 04:49:00 PM
The Ar-234 was the first aircraft to use an ejection seat, although someone reported that this was only on the prototype.

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Title: What's this ?
Post by: Minotaur on February 26, 2000, 08:43:00 PM
Nabe;

Would that be the "Shinden"?

Look Here Nabe (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum9/HTML/000293.html)

I have been looking for a picture of it, thanks.    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)


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Title: What's this ?
Post by: juzz on February 26, 2000, 11:50:00 PM
Actually the first aircraft fitted with an ejection seat was a Heinkel jet built before WW2! :P

The He219 was the first (propellor driven) production aircraft fitted with (two) ejector seats, in mid 1944.
Title: What's this ?
Post by: Sundog on February 27, 2000, 01:30:00 AM
I believe that was the He-176. Also, I would love to fly the B-2 Arrow...One 30mm in the hub, 1 30mm in each wing, and I dont remember if cowl guns were 2 20mm or the 12.7 mm. But it sure would be fun =-). In fact, I would like that J7W1 too! It had 4 30mm cannons in the nose. Another good looking and excellent handling twin would be the Ki-83. I don't know if more then one flew before the end of the war, but it was armed with 2 20mm cannons and 2 30mm cannons in the nose. It was Japans answer to the P-38. If I ever get my scanner hooked up, I will post pics and a 3 view.

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Title: What's this ?
Post by: eazydweeb on February 28, 2000, 06:36:00 AM
hey Saintaw,
where did you get that picture from ? It looks exactly like the one I saw hanging in the control tower of Mengen (EDTM, general aviation airfield in southern Germany).The small text next to it says, that the flight testing of the  DO335 "Pfeil" took place from '43 to '45 in Mengen. Sadly I didn't find any other traces of the plane in Mengen although I've been flying there for 5 years now  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)

eazydweeb

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