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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: jdbecks on June 29, 2009, 02:01:36 AM
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Hey all,
Currently I use a Saitek ST290 Pro, Its been fine for two years but looking at getting a better stick/replacing it, I was thinking about getting the Saitek cyborg X then came accross the Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X, I've never seen or heard of it, heres a link
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-PS3-compatible/dp/B001DMUCAC
if not what other stick is recommended?
cheers
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Doesn't give much info as to how many buttons, etc. But it looks like it might have potential.
Thrustmaster, Saitek, CH are the big 3 IMO, CH seems to have the best reputation of them all when it comes to durability. If your interested, give it a try, write up a review after you've had it a few weeks.
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I think I will, ghosth, I love the saitek stick because it has so many buttons on top of the stick which are all quite accessible during flight, I dont think I will get a CH stick because I like the twist for the rudder as I dont have pedals yet.
heres some better pics
http://www.thrustmaster.com/files.aspx?ProductID=149&Images=1
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IIRC most people liked that setup (HOTAS), but it wore out super quick. (I seem to remember many here having problems w/ it after a few months)
CH is for sure the way to go if you can afford it.
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If ya want a Saitek stick and a HOTAS set up, then I suggest the X52 $100 or the X52 Pro $170
:salute
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Saitek Cyborg is a total lump or junk. Do not, repeat, NOT but a cybotg if you want to enjoy AcesHigh. I flew with cyborgs for 3 years, without a choice, and hated them. I had to repair it many times, and replace it twice in that 3 year period. The spring is horrible, there is no chance for fine control and the manufacturing is designed to break within a year tops.
Get a sidewinder on ebay if you want a twisty stick.
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Saitek Cyborg is a total lump or junk. Do not, repeat, NOT but a cybotg if you want to enjoy AcesHigh. I flew with cyborgs for 3 years, without a choice, and hated them. I had to repair it many times, and replace it twice in that 3 year period. The spring is horrible, there is no chance for fine control and the manufacturing is designed to break within a year tops.
Had a cyborg for about 5years, loved it. Z axis died after ~4 years, but I was using pedals anyway.
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Did you not find the primative spring system made fine control almost impossible? I had the basic cyborg, not the force feeback version.
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Did you not find the primative spring system made fine control almost impossible?
No. And I had a basic Cyborg as well. When i finally aquired a X-45 HOTAS I just used the 45's throttle and continued to fly with the cyborg until it worn out (and I managed to break the X-45 throttle :uhoh). Both were replaced by the X-52 pro.
I went an unusual way... I had a CH stick long time ago, and went to Saitek ... and never came back ;)
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My cyborg was a great stick beside it's lack of buttons.
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I thought it was a terrible stick, and fell apart very quickly. I would never chose the cyborg over the sidewinder and they cost about the same. Personal preferance i geuss. :)
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I thought it was a terrible stick, and fell apart very quickly. I would never chose the cyborg over the sidewinder and they cost about the same.
Luck plays a role too. After all, there are even people that never had any quality problems with their Logitech sticks ;)
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CH all the way! :aok
Spend the extra cash and get quality or replace a cheaper stick often. :salute
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Luck plays a role too. After all, there are even people that never had any quality problems with their Logitech sticks ;)
Right now I am using the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. So far I have not had any problems with it. Been using this stick for almost a year.
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On a side note... if you decide to go with another Saitek stick like the X52, the tight spring on the ST290 Pro is inter-changeable with other Saitek sticks. Wish I still had my old St290 Pro, would love to put that stiffer spring in my X52.
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On a side note... if you decide to go with another Saitek stick like the X52, the tight spring on the ST290 Pro is inter-changeable with other Saitek sticks. Wish I still had my old St290 Pro, would love to put that stiffer spring in my X52.
I orded a X52 instead of the thrust master.
I never knew that! my ST290 arrives tomorrow, how easy is it to replace the spring with the st290?
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I orded a X52 instead of the thrust master.
I never knew that! my ST290 arrives tomorrow, how easy is it to replace the spring with the st290?
Have you ever taken a key off a key ring with the "split ring". You have to get the "key" started by spreading the closed side of the ring and slide the "key" around until it comes off. Same principle with the spring. The ends of the spring are bent "closed" Take a screw driver and spread the closed end at the top of the spring so the joystick shaft will pass through. Once you get the spring started, you just twist the spring until it "unscrews" off the shaft. To replace the spring, just do the same steps... spread the "closed" end, screw it on the shaft until it is all the way on.
*NOTE: Though this is not very hard to do, check the stick firmness of the STOCK X52 compared to the ST290 Pro. Make sure this is the "feel" you want to change before you do this. Otherwise, this operation may have to be reversed if you find you don't like the stiffer X52. I think the stock spring on the X52 is waaayyyyy too loose for my flying style.
Total time to do this is about 10 min. Finding the fastest and easiest way to remove the springs is the hardest part and there is NO disassembling of anything other than the springs.
Hope this helps and enjoy the X52.
:salute
DasChewy
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Have you ever taken a key off a key ring with the "split ring". You have to get the "key" started by spreading the closed side of the ring and slide the "key" around until it comes off. Same principle with the spring. The ends of the spring are bent "closed" Take a screw driver and spread the closed end at the top of the spring so the joystick shaft will pass through. Once you get the spring started, you just twist the spring until it "unscrews" off the shaft. To replace the spring, just do the same steps... spread the "closed" end, screw it on the shaft until it is all the way on.
*NOTE: Though this is not very hard to do, check the stick firmness of the STOCK X52 compared to the ST290 Pro. Make sure this is the "feel" you want to change before you do this. Otherwise, this operation may have to be reversed if you find you don't like the stiffer X52. I think the stock spring on the X52 is waaayyyyy too loose for my flying style.
Total time to do this is about 10 min. Finding the fastest and easiest way to remove the springs is the hardest part and there is NO disassembling of anything other than the springs.
Hope this helps and enjoy the X52.
:salute
DasChewy
nice cheers :aok :salute
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just bought x52 seems very good.
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Doesn't give much info as to how many buttons, etc. But it looks like it might have potential.
Thrustmaster, Saitek, CH are the big 3 IMO, CH seems to have the best reputation of them all when it comes to durability. If your interested, give it a try, write up a review after you've had it a few weeks.
CH is in a league of it's own and it should be for the price people (including me) have to pay for the full setup.
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Spring problem with the saitek is easily fixed by putting a spacer under the spring feels a lot stiffer :aok
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just bought x52 joystick and controller seems very good up to now :aok
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Spring problem with the saitek is easily fixed by putting a spacer under the spring feels a lot stiffer :aok
That's what I did. I used a one gallon milk cap, works well. Would rather have had a ST290 Pro spring, but the spacer does the trick?