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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: -Pirado- on May 05, 2001, 04:40:00 PM
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This nice thing saw any action? I dont know but if yes, this plane is a nice bird that we can fly as a perked night fighter.
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Pirado
9./JG54 "Grünherz"
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Messerschimitt Bf109 Forever!
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Well it is a unique design that is for sure, as far as combat it is testimonial but I have read reports ehere it did get some action. As far as a perk fighter only on the basis of rarity. Besides that it would be meat in the MA I would think.
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Verkaaft's mei Gwand `I foahr in himmel!
Sell my clothes I am going to Heaven!
[This message has been edited by AG Sachsenberg (edited 05-05-2001).]
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Originally posted by AG Sachsenberg:
Besides that it would be meat in the MA I would think.
AG, it had top speed around 763 km/h at 21,325 feet. So when flown properly it would be more like a meat eater...
I would love to fly this plane in AH but it never reached operational units. There has been discussion if it ever saw action with the evaluation unit...
A quote from "The Big Show" by Pierre Clostermann. To whit: "...An aircraft became visible at tree-top level, approaching rapidly. A curious one, which I couldn't identify. He saw us only at the last moment, because we were just below the cloud base, in the shadows. He broke very quickly and for a moment I had a very full view of him. He was obviously a Jerry - he had black crosses on the wings - but what an odd sort of bird!
Throttle full open, I tried to cut inside his turn, but he was moving astonishingly fast. Longley was better placed, and fired at him, but without effect. The strange aircraft completed his turn, and flew off at full speed. He really was an extraordinary looking customer..."
Of course the plane Clostermann describes could have been any other rarely seen german fighter...I just think that if the aircraft in question would have been jet propelled he would have mentioned it in his book, right? So maybe it was Ta-152 for example...or maybe...
1Wmaker1
Lentolaivue 34
[This message has been edited by Wmaker (edited 05-05-2001).]
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I've heard the Do335 turns much like a Me262 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I think I read about they had problems bailing out and hitting the back prop .
Nice pic , have it on my desktop right now (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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yea...seem's like you'd be hurt bad if you bailed...no need for chute shooting....you can just commit suicide (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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XNachoX
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Want some of me?
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[This message has been edited by XNachoX (edited 05-05-2001).]
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Useless trivia:
The Do335 had the first operation ejection seat.
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He219 had ejection seats earlier, even used them in combat on several occasions.
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most test pilots of the Do335 said, it was wonderfull to fly.
turnrate was not as good as 190 had. but for
it's huge design, still good.
wastel
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The He219 had the same ejection seat system didn't it? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ:
He219 had ejection seats earlier, even used them in combat on several occasions.
One question what was the fire power of these seats? How many hits did it require to take down a bomber?
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Verkaaft's mei Gwand `I foahr in himmel!
Sell my clothes I am going to Heaven!
[This message has been edited by AG Sachsenberg (edited 05-06-2001).]
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Unfortunatly I don't think it ever saw service, it would be a great plane in the MA equpied with 2x15mm Cowl mounted MG and a spinner mounted MK103 30mm gun with 70 shells.
Top Speed was 474Mph.
The pilots who flew it said it was very manuverable, can only take their word for it.
I think there is one in a museum somewhere but I am not sure, does anyone know?
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Rasmus "Wilbus" Mattsson
III/JG5 Eismeer
"Only the spirit of attack, born in a brave heart, will bring success to any fighter aircraft, no matter how highly developed it may be."
Adolf Galland
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Do-335 located at the Garber facility at the NASM in Silver Springs Maryland. Also have a HE-219 Ju-388, GO-229, Ar-234 and many other unique aircraft.
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Verkaaft's mei Gwand `I foahr in himmel!
Sell my clothes I am going to Heaven!
[This message has been edited by AG Sachsenberg (edited 05-07-2001).]
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I seem to remember reading that it had a very weak nose gear. I'd love to fly it in AH.
More twins!
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As far as I know and can remember from reading various books and articles over the years; the German ejection seats were propelled by compressed air.
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ObstLt. Reschke
2/LJK Staffelkapitan
Kommandeur Jagdbomber
LuftJagerKorps (http://www.luftjagerkorps.com)
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Sry to say but DO335 never saw action, even the few prototypes were not flown (like i.e. the FW190D11-13 prototypes) in combat missions.
The DO335 had an special feature to protect the pilot in case of emergency bail out, the aft prop and the top vertikal fin were ejected by explosive bolts. That ensured that the pilot fell away from the plane in one piece and not many small red ones.
Didnt know if the front gear was weak, but landing was a bit difficult due to the lower vertikal fin, the pilot had to approach and touch down in a very low angle, if i remember right nose not higher than 10-15 degree above horizon.
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The Do335 was never flown by regular units, only by the Erprobungsgruppe. I wonder where and when they did their test flights in '44 and later (not only in this plane), not to be engaged by any allied fighters. Maybe they even did engage some by themselves, but never reported these incidents, because I can imagine it was forbidden to engage any allied craft with "secret" prototypes. Does anyone know about this ?
But 665 kph sustained (!!!) speed and a topspeed of 740+ kph is definitely not slow.
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This page has some technical info about the Do335 A: http://people.freenet.de/luftwaffeln/do335_1.html (http://people.freenet.de/luftwaffeln/do335_1.html)
Pls. note that the tested aircrafts in the chart were in bad condition. The theoretical curves which are included in the chart are corrected a little bit to show the performance of a real Do335. The tests were done with climb and combat power, not with emergency power and, of course, without special emergency power (mw50).
niklas