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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: 633DH98 on June 30, 2009, 12:56:04 PM
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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4138011&CatId=2639
Windows XP Pro, E7300, 2x1GB DDR2 800, SATA II 250GB 7200RPM, DVDRW Dual Layer, NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT 512MB Memory, 500 Watt PSU.
$725.00 delivered.
Is it possible to build better for the same money (including cost of OS)?
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The issues are pretty simple, what motherboard and what PS are being used. The CPU is about $110 or so....
So yes with a cheap PS and MB I can beat that price OS included by $100 or more. The VC is $90...
So
$110 CPU
$90 VC
MB $36
PS $22
2G $22
HD $48
Case $25
DVD $25
You can do the parts for about $400
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This was a quote I had for an $800 pretty kick butt computer: evrything can be found at newegg.com
Gigabyte GA-p42 motherboard -- $90
intel core 2 quad Q8200 -- $170
2 x 2 Gig pc-6400 ram -- $48
320GB Sata Hard drive -- $45
DVD + RW -- $24
ATX case -- $45
TT 500watt powersupply -- $65
512 mb Geforce 9800gt -- $139 / or gtx for $179
Labor -- $45
widows xp -- $135
$805 with the GT video card and $845 with the GTX
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So they are throwing in a free OS?
I may do this (already have a case). Will it be enough for full graphics running Win7 RC (free?) ?
GIGABYTE GA-G41M-ES2L LGA 775 Intel G41 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard In Stock
$64.99
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LOW POWER VIDEO CARD
EVGA 512-P3-N856-LR GeForce 9600 GT 512MB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
$89.99 -$5.00 Instant $84.99
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PC Power & Cooling Silencer Dell Upgrade PPCS500D 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active
$99.99 -$20.00 Instant $79.99
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Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 Wolfdale 2.8GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E7400
$119.99 $119.99
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OCZ Blade Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory
$59.99 -$10.00 Instant $49.99
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Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
$69.99 -$10.00 Instant $59.99
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LG DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH22NS50
$24.99 $24.99
Subtotal: $484.93
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oops no the xp is $135 but I had added it already to the price
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you can build a good box OS included for $700. I have no idea what MB or PS the system above uses. If we assume low end stuff then its not a bargain.
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If I was going to buy that Crysis PC, I would definitely get more ram and an I7 chip.
Then again, I wouldn't buy it. I would just give TilDeath a call. His machines have become a well known commodity in here and run beta without breaking a sweat.
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My big problem with he Crysis PC is which power supply.
Addendum: That's a Micro ATX board that supports 4 gig memory max. Therefore if you ever upgraded to a 64bit OS you would be limited. Not sure of any other limits. I'm sure someone will chime in.
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Took a little guessing from a blurred name, but found the PSU. Made by 'Raptor', 500W with 2x 12V rails, I have never heard of this company, but I am still fairly new to some of this. I only trust PC P&C, OCZ and SeaSonic.
Link to the PSU: http://www.rsun.com.ph/view_item.php?item=PSU122
A cheap System, can be made that runs very well. I plan on upgrading my CPU/motherboard sometime at the end of the year, and the price is still very acceptable.
Total: 595$ without an OS. I will know how the system runs later today sometime when new GPU (260 replacing my dead-ish 7900) arrives hopefully.
With my current 7900 (before it got to the deathbed) ran AH (beta included) at 9/10 full settings with 50+ FR.
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So they are throwing in a free OS?
I may do this (already have a case). Will it be enough for full graphics running Win7 RC (free?) ?
GIGABYTE GA-G41M-ES2L LGA 775 Intel G41 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard In Stock
$64.99
. .
LOW POWER VIDEO CARD
EVGA 512-P3-N856-LR GeForce 9600 GT 512MB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
$89.99 -$5.00 Instant $84.99
. .
PC Power & Cooling Silencer Dell Upgrade PPCS500D 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active
$99.99 -$20.00 Instant $79.99
. .
Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 Wolfdale 2.8GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E7400
$119.99 $119.99
. .
OCZ Blade Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory
$59.99 -$10.00 Instant $49.99
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Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
$69.99 -$10.00 Instant $59.99
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LG DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH22NS50
$24.99 $24.99
Subtotal: $484.93
That would work pretty good for you except the Dell upgrade PSU probably won't plug into your new motherboard. Did you pick that because you have a Dell case?
Humble, I'd never ever ever build a system with a $22 PSU. Shame on you.
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Off the shelf gaming computers will never be competitive with a computer you can build yourself. They make decisions on a cost basis alone. When you build your own, you build to get the best performance per dollar. Don't know how to build one? Ask around one of your friends probably does. It ain't rocket science.
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That would work pretty good for you except the Dell upgrade PSU probably won't plug into your new motherboard. Did you pick that because you have a Dell case?
DOH! I missed that part. I was just looking for an inexpensive PC P&C. :-/
The power supplies I have access to at the moment are all less than (or at most) 18amps on the +12v rail/s. As Tim the Toolman says "I guess I'm gonna need more power" since even that "low power" 9600GT wants 18amps.
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DOH! I missed that part. I was just looking for an inexpensive PC P&C. :-/
The power supplies I have access to at the moment are all less than (or at most) 18amps on the +12v rail/s. As Tim the Toolman says "I guess I'm gonna need more power" since even that "low power" 9600GT wants 18amps.
There are some very nice Seasonic options in that price range. Do a power search on 80+ certified retail Seasonics and you'll find them.
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I couldnt find a specific review but here is a good overview of some of the issues "bargain" PSU's have....
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=71 (http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=71)