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Title: Saab J 21 (you have to check this out)
Post by: Nemisis on June 30, 2009, 04:22:15 PM: Ok, this is Sweeden's Saab J 21 fighter. It's so crazy, it could be uber.

http://militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=652 (http://militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=652)

Check the specs near the bottom of the page.
Title: Re: Saab J 21 (you have to check this out)
Post by: Motherland on June 30, 2009, 04:28:49 PM: Sexy aircraft. This sentence confuses me though;

"Additionally, though "pusher"-type engine designs were being tossed about by American and German engineers, the Saab 21 was the only pusher engine design to ever see active service in the war - even though it appeared toward the end of the conflict in June of 1945."
Not only did Germany surrender in May, but Sweden was neutral. :huh
Title: Re: Saab J 21 (you have to check this out)
Post by: Nemisis on June 30, 2009, 04:32:29 PM: I know, I don't get it either. While it may be confusing, I've found this site to be reliable around 98% of the time. And I think sweeden didn't wan't to get left in the dust so they made an uber aircraft.
Title: Re: Saab J 21 (you have to check this out)
Post by: Motherland on June 30, 2009, 04:36:37 PM: Quote from: Nemisis on June 30, 2009, 04:32:29 PM
I know, I don't get it either. While it may be confusing, I've found this site to be reliable around 98% of the time. And I think sweeden didn't wan't to get left in the dust so they made an uber aircraft.
497 mph isn't that fast for a jet... and that website isn't that great... lists the Bf 109E-7 as having a DB 605A and being the definitive model of the series... :lol

"Bf 109E-7 - DB 605A engine; 1 x 20mm cannon firing through propeller hub; 2 x 7.9mm machine guns in engine cowling; 2 x 7.9mm machine guns in wings."
Oh wow... :lol
Title: Re: Saab J 21 (you have to check this out)
Post by: Nemisis on June 30, 2009, 04:47:06 PM: Uh oh, did I get the wrong web site? hold on let me check.
Title: Re: Saab J 21 (you have to check this out)
Post by: Nemisis on June 30, 2009, 04:50:27 PM: Sorry, it was daves war birds. I think. I kinda lost track of which website I found was most accurate. I usualy double check but I got sloppy with this one.

Sorry people, info is wrong.
Title: Re: Saab J 21 (you have to check this out)
Post by: TonyJoey on June 30, 2009, 05:01:29 PM: Quote from: Motherland on June 30, 2009, 04:28:49 PM
Sexy aircraft. This sentence confuses me though;

"Not only did Germany surrender in May, but Sweden was neutral. :huh

:noid
Title: Re: Saab J 21 (you have to check this out)
Post by: Captfish on June 30, 2009, 05:07:03 PM: Very cool plane :aok
I had a friend growing up that had a model of the j-21, I always liked it.
Title: Re: Saab J 21 (you have to check this out)
Post by: Nemisis on June 30, 2009, 05:09:20 PM: like an actual working model or a scale model?
Title: Re: Saab J 21 (you have to check this out)
Post by: Captfish on June 30, 2009, 05:19:16 PM: no a plastic scale model, had an awesome paint job, his grandfather built it for him ir something like that.

similar model but different paint:
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal3/2501-2600/Gal2516_SaabJ-21R_Sullivan/00.shtm
Title: Re: Saab J 21 (you have to check this out)
Post by: Bossk on June 30, 2009, 05:28:25 PM: I like this one better, the fokker DXXIII the prototype flew in 1939, there were no production aircraft when the netherlands were invaded though..
http://www.dutch-aviation.nl/index5/Military/index5-1%20D23.html (http://www.dutch-aviation.nl/index5/Military/index5-1%20D23.html)
Title: Re: Saab J 21 (you have to check this out)
Post by: Rino on June 30, 2009, 05:38:14 PM: I hung a plastic scale model of a J21 off my dorm room ceiling when I was in
the air force. Apparently it was one of the first aircraft to mount an ejection seat.
Mine was the prop version though.
Title: Re: Saab J 21 (you have to check this out)
Post by: klingan on July 01, 2009, 03:14:14 AM: Quote from: TonyJoey on June 30, 2009, 05:01:29 PM
:noid

:noid
Title: Re: Saab J 21 (you have to check this out)
Post by: oboe on July 01, 2009, 05:04:26 AM: Quote from: Motherland on June 30, 2009, 04:28:49 PM
Sexy aircraft. This sentence confuses me though;

"Additionally, though "pusher"-type engine designs were being tossed about by American and German engineers, the Saab 21 was the only pusher engine design to ever see active service in the war - even though it appeared toward the end of the conflict in June of 1945."
Not only did Germany surrender in May, but Sweden was neutral. :huh

Cool-looking design. I wonder if they meant to say "see active service during the War..." rather than "in" the War. Neutral countries still fielded air forces which patrolled their air space, intercepted wayward aircraft, defectors, etc. Still doesn't get around the May/June issue though, unless they are using August 1945 as the end date for the War?
Title: Re: Saab J 21 (you have to check this out)
Post by: Wmaker on July 01, 2009, 06:55:08 AM: I've always liked this promoshot of Saab's first automobile the Saab 92 in company of the Saab J 21.

(http://www.saabhistory.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/saab_92_with_saab21_jet.jpg)
Title: Re: Saab J 21 (you have to check this out)
Post by: Ciaphas on July 01, 2009, 06:04:03 PM: The fokker DXXIII reminds me of the OV-10. The OV-10 had an ejection seat. With how light the OV-10 was I wouldn't be surprised if the force from the catapult system pushed the plane down during ejection.
Title: Re: Saab J 21 (you have to check this out)
Post by: Enker on July 01, 2009, 08:20:17 PM: Quote from: Wmaker on July 01, 2009, 06:55:08 AM
I've always liked this promoshot of Saab's first automobile the Saab 92 in company of the Saab J 21.

(http://www.saabhistory.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/saab_92_with_saab21_jet.jpg)
It reminds me of the promoshot for the Saab '95 (I think) with a Viggen flying over head...or at least, I think it was a Viggen