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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Jimdandy on August 20, 2001, 01:21:00 PM
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That Greyhound will be a nice addition to the GV's. Fast and good fire power. Fun! :D
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Didn't anyone see the Greyhound in the news?
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There were numerous threads about it when the news was, well, new.
Most of them were in the general forum, but I started one in this forum asking about the M8 and how it compares to the M3/M16.
Look about 20 threads below this one.
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Bah, I'm waiting for the Sd.Kfz. 234/2 PUMA. :)
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We need some Shermans, like these! (http://www.the-ocean.com/kelly/sounds/shermans.wav)
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I don't know much about this GV at all. What will it be used for? Give me an example where like... you say "Oh man, ok, gettin' in an M8, otw".
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If the M8 can deal with the defensive guns at a base, a combination of M8s and M3s could form a rapid strike and capture attack.
M8s might also work well as harrasment forces.
If the M8 is capable of disabling a Panzer IV H, then it will work in mainline combat as well. All you have to do is destroy a track or the engine and then leave. A disabled Panzer is as good as dead in almost all cases.
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If the 7.7mm MG on my Zero can disable a Panzer than I shold the M8 could :)
The M8 will be fun good for hunting M3's and M16's and it will be fast.
I would of prefered a Puma but Pumas do not have an AA mg if memory serves, the PSW 234/1 had a combanation 20mm 7.9mm turet that could be used in the AA role, but the 37mm gun on the M8 has more punch aganst GV's.
So the M8 was a good choice for an AC.
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Now to work on a GV icon/radar adjustment to open up armored Armored Recon as a game element. Scouts out :)
Charon
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Brady,
But they have closed top ;)
234/1 still has open top.. plug few MG rounds in there.
oh.. but I forgot, open tops has invisible armor.
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Originally posted by Karnak:
If the M8 can deal with the defensive guns at a base, a combination of M8s and M3s could form a rapid strike and capture attack.
M8s might also work well as harrasment forces.
If the M8 is capable of disabling a Panzer IV H, then it will work in mainline combat as well. All you have to do is destroy a track or the engine and then leave. A disabled Panzer is as good as dead in almost all cases.
The above is what the M8 will be good at. You could also send M8's and M16's out in front of a panzer as a fast attack force. The panzer hangs back and picks off targets while the M8's and M16's keep the enemy busy. Have an M16 or Osty stay back and cover the panzer. This could meen we get to use those tank killing aircraft more often and not just as structure levelers.
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This sounds like alotta fun! I know next to nothing about ground vehicles (sorta like my knowledge of planes hehe) but it sure is cool seein' the ground aspect slowly get fleshed out. I bet ya could have a bunch of fun whippin' around at 60 mph if ya brought a gunner along with ya. Harrassement indeed.
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I think a jeep with a 50 cal would be fun. :D
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Of the units announced so far for 1.08 I am most looking forward to the M8.
If it can do some of the things I mentioned above its going to be a fun little toy.
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234/2, though, has a mini-Tiger II style turret. :) And a 50mm.
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Realy the only draw back to the Puma(234/2) is the lack of an AA MG, othr wise it is a way better AC, better gun ,better armor better spead, better off road, better stearing,(2 drivers seat's) one in front and one in back( that way you dont half to turn it around, just jump in rear driver set and shift....) better weigt dispershion 8 wheals...Better looking...and best of all it aint US :)
(http://content.communities.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=MyPhotos_GetPubPhoto&PhotoID=nHwAAACkJC3e8hEICHdU9JYOREz50dvpD9hBuIR8Xco1TxH1RaAIcJHgDg5rpEEpI)
But seriously I very much look forward to using it, and the TU 2, and the huricane with the 40mm at guns :)
[ 08-21-2001: Message edited by: brady ]
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According to what I've read, the M8 has a top speed of around 86 km/h, and somewhat less range than the Puma. Also, the turret has partial stabilization for turreted weapons. Did any german tanks/gv's have stabilized turreted weapons? I agree that the Puma with a 75 or 88 would be fearsome, and Im sure the 50 would pack a lot more punch than the 37 on the M8, but I'm sure the 37 would be plenty against a Puma especially since you could use it more accurately at higher speeds over rougher terrain. It would be an interesting matchup.
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Gimme an M18 :)
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I want more ground vehicle options, as well as treelines for cover.
We have the classes of battle tank, troop transport and AA vehicles already. What we need now are scout cars and self propelled artillery.
With the M8 Greyhound we add the scout car.
But what I want to see are the artillery guns. Guns that use the navy sighting coordinate system so you can adjust fire over the horizon with the aid of a spotter.
I would also like to see the aim point for ship turrets moved to the top of the superstructure.
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I`d REALLY like the 234 with an auto 20mm :D imagine that against A/C... :)
/stomp out/
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234 series or a SDKfz 251 series would be nice. believe it was the /10 or /19 not sure have to get books out that had 3 MG 151/15's on it oh now that would be nice.
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NOW im sure you all know im into German stuff/planes etc BUT i think priority at the moment is a balanced set of vehicles.
my fair choice of introductions :(in order)
Sherman M4
T-34 (for the ruskis)
the german troop carrier armoured car thingy ;) so we have axis troop vehicle
British Matilda (desert)
tiger I (perked)
my choice if not fair :p :
Panther(perk?)
Tiger (perk)
German troop thing (lol cant remember name)
sherman M4
sherman firefly (perk?)
T-34
puma or similar
we gotta be fair, US need a tank and so do the russians and british.
I liked the idea of the landing craft tank (lVt?) but it seems to be a wasted effort really as its not being utilised.surely a sherman would have been better.I absolutely loved the sherman when i was a kid.
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hazed-,
Nice list, couple of comments though.
The Matilda or Matilda II would be useless unless some German stuff that it could kill was added. Without that the Firefly is a much better, and easier, tank to add for the Brits. No, the Firefly isn't a perk, unless the Panzer IV H is a perk. They are pretty equivilent tanks.
The Panther V G is definately a perk. It is, all around, the best tank of WWII. Its armor is actually functionally thicker than the Tiger I's armor because of their respective slopes. The V G is also much faster, presents a low profile and has a gun that can kill all common Allied tanks at range.
I think the upper range of non-perk tanks would be the T-34/76 or T-34/85. The T-34/85 could also be the bottom rung of perk tanks.
[ 09-03-2001: Message edited by: Karnak ]