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Title: Flugwerk Fw190 Test Flight
Post by: DREDIOCK on July 07, 2009, 05:58:45 PM

Test flight of the Flugwerke full scale reproduction of the Fw190.

I WANT one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1iY2oQTbaM&NR=1

Title: Re: Flugwerk Fw190 Test Flight
Post by: John Curnutte on July 07, 2009, 10:21:06 PM

 that is some cool stuff there , I'll check out this company see whats up . Nice post  :salute
                                       Nutte

Title: Re: Flugwerk Fw190 Test Flight
Post by: firbal on July 08, 2009, 01:57:17 PM

Been wanting one for years. But alast, no money to spend on it.

Title: Re: Flugwerk Fw190 Test Flight
Post by: DYNAMITE on July 08, 2009, 02:04:14 PM

If only i were filthy rich! 

Great find :aok

Title: Re: Flugwerk Fw190 Test Flight
Post by: oakranger on July 08, 2009, 02:18:53 PM

I am guessing that is a "A" model? 

I saw a video on You tube that a group build a D-9 or D-11.  i took then a hour to get the engine started.

Title: Re: Flugwerk Fw190 Test Flight
Post by: Wmaker on July 08, 2009, 02:35:03 PM

(http://www.flugwerk.de/_media/GAL_DIR/FW190/2F8O58002.jpg)

(http://www.flugwerk.de/_media/GAL_DIR/FW190/2F8O5823.jpg)

(http://www.flugwerk.de/_media/GAL_DIR/FW190/2F8O5834.jpg)

(http://www.flugwerk.de/_media/GAL_DIR/FW190/2F8O58072.jpg)

More here: http://www.flugwerk.de/page.php?GID=24&SID=8 (http://www.flugwerk.de/page.php?GID=24&SID=8)

Title: Re: Flugwerk Fw190 Test Flight
Post by: Die Hard on July 08, 2009, 02:52:21 PM

It has the La-7 engine, not a proper BMW. Other than that it's a faithful replica 190A-8. Beautiful it is.

Title: Re: Flugwerk Fw190 Test Flight
Post by: Saurdaukar on July 09, 2009, 08:10:34 AM

Quote from: Die Hard on July 08, 2009, 02:52:21 PM

It has the La-7 engine...

Cripes, what a low alt monster that would make.

Title: Re: Flugwerk Fw190 Test Flight
Post by: moot on July 09, 2009, 08:27:54 AM

Isn't the La7's engine only 1800 HP or so?

Title: Re: Flugwerk Fw190 Test Flight
Post by: Die Hard on July 09, 2009, 01:07:15 PM

Yeah, it's a perfect fit for the A8, both in size and power.

Title: Re: Flugwerk Fw190 Test Flight
Post by: Motherland on July 09, 2009, 01:12:13 PM

Wasn't the Shvetsov in the La7 originally inspired by the BMW 801 in the first place?

Title: Re: Flugwerk Fw190 Test Flight
Post by: Bodhi on July 09, 2009, 01:14:49 PM

I know a few people that have had experience with them, and apparently they are nightmares.

Title: Re: Flugwerk Fw190 Test Flight
Post by: firbal on July 09, 2009, 01:57:39 PM

I think HiTech needs to buy one.

If you check their web sight, they are starting to work an kit for the P-51D now.

Title: Re: Flugwerk Fw190 Test Flight
Post by: BigPlay on July 09, 2009, 02:09:24 PM

Quote from: Die Hard on July 08, 2009, 02:52:21 PM

It has the La-7 engine, not a proper BMW. Other than that it's a faithful replica 190A-8. Beautiful it is.

 I have spoke with the flugwerks people, they told me that they were going to use a Chineese copy of a Russian copy of a German BMW 801 engine. That was around 8 years ago when they said they would have 5 flying by the end of the year. There were also going to be 5-6 Me262's as well.

Title: Re: Flugwerk Fw190 Test Flight
Post by: Saurdaukar on July 09, 2009, 03:12:21 PM

Quote from: moot on July 09, 2009, 08:27:54 AM

Isn't the La7's engine only 1800 HP or so?

Did a brief search (learning as I go with the La7, here), and most sources seem to agree that the ASh-82FNU (which we should have modeled in AH, unless I am mistaken) was rated at 1,850HP.  It weighed, apparently, about 1,984lbs, dry.

By comparison, as is my understanding, the A8 was powered by one of two BMW's; the 801-D2 or the 801-Q.  Each was rated (source depending) between 1,677HP and 1,730HP or, in the case of injection, between 1,953HP and 2,000HP, for short durations.  The 801D's, by comparison, approached 2,500lbs in weight.

I could not find wet weights, but, either way, that an approximate weight differential of 500lbs.  You would surely feel that in the game and most assuredly in real life - if in no other capacity than wing loading.

Since Im doing this as I go to see if my initial assumption was accurate... let me do some math, here...

A8 weighs in, loaded, at 9,735lbs with the 801.  Against peak HP of 2,000 (WEP), thats 0.21HP/lb.

La weighs in, loaded, at 7,183lbs with the 62.  Against peak HP of 1,850, thats 0.26HP/lb.

If we remove the the 2,500lb 801, we get a rough, "roller" weight of 7,235lb.

If we then install the 1,984lb 62, we get a revised weight of 9,219lbs.

Powered by the weaker, but lighter 62, you have a 9,219lb aircraft driven by a 1,850HP engine for a P:W ratio of 0.20HP/lb.

So, your unwritten "wink" that I might be incorrect is, in fact, valid.

You win.  :)  See you up tonight.  lol

Title: Re: Flugwerk Fw190 Test Flight
Post by: Grayeagle on July 09, 2009, 06:40:15 PM

What a work of art.

Awesome proportions, good lookin airplane.
I imagine takeoff weight..as in any civilian version of a combat aircraft, is substantially less than what they carried in normal combat ops.

Would be fun to own a hi-tech machine shop and just do a modern radial design for it... step past 1940's technology and rock on.

-GE aka Frank

Title: Re: Flugwerk Fw190 Test Flight
Post by: Mustaine on July 11, 2009, 10:40:32 PM

IIRC they did a D9 or were working on one....

I win the lottery tonight that is #1 purchase

Title: Re: Flugwerk Fw190 Test Flight
Post by: SmokinLoon on July 12, 2009, 07:22:10 PM

Quote from: Mustaine on July 11, 2009, 10:40:32 PM

IIRC they did a D9 or were working on one....

I win the lottery tonight that is #1 purchase

Silly goof.  Spend your money one a Mossie!   ;)