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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: soda72 on July 08, 2009, 08:25:47 AM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8139711.stm
So will Aces High be supporting this OS?
:D
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I'm inclined to believe Google Bot will be crawling your hard-drive.
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Actually google has already launched a full OS, android is very capable of running PC. In fact I'd guess that whatever is in the works is android based...
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The as yet vaporware Google OS will be Linux based. Linux OS's have been around for awhile. You can download and install any number of different flavors of Linux right now for free. The downfall of Linux OS's is the inability to run software coded for Windows other than through somewhat lame and limited emulation strategies. Linux in and of itself is a great OS. In and of itself it is in many ways superior to Windows. But no OS is any better than the software available to run natively in that environment.
Gaming is probably the single biggest downfall for Linux OS's as of now. Commercially it is almost totally unsupported by anyone.
For business and professional use it's a somewhat different and better story but still far from perfect.
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Actually this is not based on Linux. But it will not be able to run the game as it is more like an "application portal" than an operating system. Where all the applications you want to run are not installed on your computer, but run off of Google servers.
It is zero threat to Microsoft's domination and will only fill a niche market.
I am incredibly disappointed in the approach they took.
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Actually this is not based on Linux.
I haven't researched it in depth but the news reports that I have read stated that it was Linux based. That's all I was going on. I haven't looked into it further because to be honest I really don't care too much at this stage. It doesn't yet exist and press releases are notoriously optimistic wherever they come from - M$, Google or whoever.
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The news articles and Wikipedia pages I've read on Google OS says its using a linux kernel.
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Actually this is not based on Linux. But it will not be able to run the game as it is more like an "application portal" than an operating system. Where all the applications you want to run are not installed on your computer, but run off of Google servers.
It is zero threat to Microsoft's domination and will only fill a niche market.
I am incredibly disappointed in the approach they took.
I use such a system at work. The server, located in DC, handles pretty much everything except the IO and our "desktops" are just blades that don't even have hard drives. It's global and gives you access to everything from anywhere so when traveling I can log into any work station and see/do exactly the same things regardless of where I'm at. Also, there are no worries about updates, configurations, backups, etc. It's all handled at the remote server. There is a huge downside to this though. Without a good network connection everything can lag and if the network itself goes down you have absolutely nothing. Maybe a compromise between the existing standard and my remote system would provide the best of both worlds.
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Sure, one day you log in and they updated an application tossing out backward compatibility and you cannot open any of the associated documents without having run some other program to bring the old data to new standards. While they are at it, the old files get stripped of some of its formatting features and you are left with a mess.
There are many problems with that model. The lack of an Internet connection is most serious. Go into a meeting to do a presentation, only to find no Internet service. Uh,..ok,..hand puppet shadows anyone?
All it takes is one time and you just lost some business to your competition.
This is definitely not something for business use and that is what will end up hurting it the most. At home, people will use what they are used to using at work, for the most part.
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That's all true Skuzzy, that's why I was suggesting that there may be a happy medium where you can get the best of both. I've had exactly what you mentioned happen to me, everything I had was on the server and they had a major problem that shut it down for 10 hours. I was completely dead until they could bring the system up. Lucky for me I didn't have to have my stuff right then, it wasn't till the next day but it sure made me nervous. Based on that failure though, we've suggested funding multiple dispersed server sites and hard drives on the blades for essential files automatically synchronized with the server. That's what I was suggesting as a possible compromise.
I agree that, given the track record of stuff that you mention, it's probably a pipe dream but who knows where we'll be 10 years (or five for that matter) down the road?
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Yea I was a hoping theyed step up to the plate with a killer OS ,,but alias another of lifes disapointments has arrived
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...Where all the applications you want to run are not installed on your computer, but run off of Google servers...
So, Google beats Microsoft to the future? ;)
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Well, here's hoping it will be a huge flop and deter other companies from trying to go that route.
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I for one, don't want my applications away from my harddrive.
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Its a two edged sword. At a consulting firm I used to run we put in a 100 seat Citrix network for a number of reasons. Partially for ease of conformity and ability for a "desktop" not to be physically linked to a location. But also for intellectual property security and to minimize a lot of unwanted possibilities that existed on stand alone PC's. Obviously a lot of trade offs but it was certainly helpful for me when I was traveling in South America to be able to grab any laptop/workstation and not only be on my "work station" but not have the hassle of having documentation/data covered by NDA's floating around on my laptop when traveling.
I think the real issue is integrating distributed computing (for lack of a better term) into the current realities. I (and most of us) are limited to windows simply because most of what we do is windows specific. The real unknown is simply if 3rd party developers will write code for the new OS. The only reason for windows dominance is the combination of internally generated software (office etc) and the efforts of all the developers that write windows app's. Any true seamless emulation for Linux would break the windows OS vice very quickly IMO....
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Actually google has already launched a full OS, android is very capable of running PC. In fact I'd guess that whatever is in the works is android based...
You code in java(googlebutchered) for android, it recognizes some native C but it's really java is the way to go. I think they would have to make Android C/Python compatible to succeed.
Or maybe I just don't like thinking of anything to do with java after working with it for hours on end for days at a time :).
My phone has the android OS and I make apps for it. Fun but frustrating.
I have not seen Android on PCs, on netbooks, but no PCs yet.
Even an Xbox, but still no PC :). I'm sure they will get it in time, it really is a nifty OS.
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Linux can already do 95% of the required typical desktop work. Only certain specialized applications can't run on it. Cad, CRM etc.
Linux has alternative options for them but I don't know how compatible they are. It only takes a problem with 1 file to wreck a lot of things.
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Linux is definitely a better alternative to Google's idea of an operating system. Did I mention how disappointed I was with the course they chose?
Hundred's of systems programmers and this is the best they can do? They must have hired applications programmers instead of true systems programmers. If it were me and they told me that is the direction they would be taking, I would have turned in my notice.
Few people today, have any idea what a real operating system is. The various UNIX's are the only ones left that are real operating systems. The rest, including anything from Microsoft, are operating system wannabes. Anyone arguing that point would fit into the "clueless" category.
I was really hoping for some serious competition from Google, but this is just a joke. A bad joke. Although I bet the folks at Microsoft are laughing their butts off.
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Me too. :frown:
I'm so tired of having to live "tech" in a world where I have no (realistic) desktop choice but an operating system that somehow morphed out of a single user, single tasking DOS application (which was butt-ugly to boot!).
I remember the first time I saw Windows (2.0) which we needed to learn to use to manage something (a Netframe? I believe...) and thinking to myself how thankful I was that it was an utter edit-> monstrosity<-edit doomed to failure and I'd not have to worry about it in a year. I've been wrong a lot of times over the years - but never more wrong than that.
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Sorry, Denholm - I wasn't even thinking of the current connotations of the original word. <S>
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...I remember the first time I saw Windows (2.0) which we needed to learn to use to manage something (a Netframe? I believe...) and thinking to myself how thankful I was that it was an utter abortion doomed to failure and I'd not have to worry about it in a year...
Nothing quite like a little polish.
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Nothing quite like a little polish.
Heeey... :furious
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They are pushing this cloud computing idea here in private sector too. The local ISP is launching a service where people can subscribe to an account in a mainframe and use everything through the included thin client. Claiming it will free users from virus trouble, maintenance etc.
Excellent idea - it will tie the users to mandatory monthly payment plan also if they want to keep their stuff. Well, excellent for the service provider and nobody else.