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Title: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 13, 2009, 10:29:10 PM
i'll post my DxDiag but it doesn't seem to be that. I tested this, when i looked at smoke/clouds or any moving object then checked my net status it wasn't a flat line.


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System Information
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Time of this report: 7/1/2009, 17:33:36
       Machine name: ANTHONYS
   Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Compaq Presario 061
       System Model: RE467AA-ABA SR2010NX NA640
               BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3400+,  MMX,  3DNow, ~1.8GHz
             Memory: 446MB RAM
          Page File: 527MB used, 527MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE       
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 6150 LE
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0241&SUBSYS_2A45103C&REV_A2
   Display Memory: 256.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (85Hz)
          Monitor: COMPAQ FS7600 Color Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1280,1024
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0010.8208 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 5/9/2006 15:50:00, 3955200 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 5/9/2006 15:50:00, 3535680 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4101-11CF-9C53-4F0A03C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0241
        SubSys ID: 0x2A45103C
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
 Deinterlace Caps: {212DC724-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Logitech USB Headset
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: USB\Vid_046d&Pid_0a0c&Rev_1013&MI_00
        Manufacturer ID: 65535
             Product ID: 65535
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: usbaudio.sys
         Driver Version: 5.01.2600.5512 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 4/13/2008 11:45:12, 60032 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Microsoft
         HW Accel Level: Full
              Cap Flags: 0xF5F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: Not run

            Description: Realtek HD Audio rear output
 Default Sound Playback: No
 Default Voice Playback: No
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0888&SUBSYS_103C2A45&REV_1000
        Manufacturer ID: 1
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            Other Files:
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         HW Accel Level: Full
              Cap Flags: 0xF5F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 8000, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 33, 32
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 33, 32
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: Not run


A friend of mine DCCBOSS told me to run pingplotter but i'm not sure what IP to plot to see whats wrong.

any help would be appreciated.

-Tmac
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Skuzzy on July 14, 2009, 06:11:19 AM
Not to put too fine a point on it, but that is a very low end system.  With only 512MB of system RAM and an onboard video chip, you need to turn down everything in the game and make sure the system has as few processes as possible running in the background.

In the game, set the "Maximum Texture Size" to 128.  Do not check any preload options, as the computer does not have enough RAM to preload without swapping.  Do not allow skins at all.  Set the game resolution no higher than 1024x768.

Get the background processes, in the Windows Task Manager (under "Processes" tab) down to around 20, or so.

See if all that helps.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 14, 2009, 09:14:29 AM
I've put everything as low as possible before like you told me a few times but the lag went away and now its back.

Heres a Picture of my Processes:(I've ended most of the ones that i think i can)

(http://i27.tinypic.com/2s6txcl.jpg)
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Skuzzy on July 14, 2009, 09:59:01 AM
Woah.  You want an eye opener?  Go to the "Performance" tab and take a look at your free RAM.

You are asking that computer to do too much with so little available RAM.  The lags and stutters are going to happen as there is not enough free RAM available to run the game in.

I assume you do shut down Firefox when you are playing.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 14, 2009, 10:13:16 AM
yes i do i was just in firefox posting this. Anything else i can disable?

heres my performance feed

(http://i25.tinypic.com/16m2hsp.jpg)
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Denholm on July 14, 2009, 12:56:40 PM
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System Information
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          Page File: 527MB used, 527MB available
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If your computer is using your entire paging file, there's something wrong. You have got to reduce the amount of processes running. Use a utility such as CCleaner (http://www.ccleaner.com) to disable processes starting with the system. That way you don't constantly have to end them when it comes to game-time.

Right off the bat I see 14 processes which do not need to be running for the system to operate while gaming. The more you can cut it down, the better the game will run.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 14, 2009, 04:57:47 PM
Could you list them denholm?
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Denholm on July 14, 2009, 10:53:38 PM
Remember, this is for when you want to play the game. If you were just using the system some features will probably stop working as these processes are no longer online to support those features.

hpsysdrv.exe
strpmon.exe
wscntfy.exe (Windows Security Alert, see instructions below for better suppression of this process)
hpwuSchd2.exe (HP Updating Software)
jusched.exe (Java Updating Software, doesn't need to run at all)
ViewMgr.exe (Probably associated with Viewpoint Player. You should remove it from add/remove programs)
onestep.exe
wltrysvc.exe
bcmwltry.exe
usnsvc.exe
mDNSResponder.exe
jqs.exe
onestep210.exe
snmp.exe

Regarding, "wscntfy.exe." You can easily suppress this process by clicking the little red shield with an, "X" inside located on the bottom-right of your screen. After the Security Center loads, click the option, "Change the way Security Center alerts me" on the left. Now uncheck whatever is causing the Security Center to act up then press OK. That will at least take care of one process.


Just so you know, ending these processes will not damage your system. If you think something went horribly wrong just restart your system and everything will be back to normal.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 15, 2009, 05:10:50 AM
Thanks  :aok I just hope the process's help. I went and played the game yesterday and was still warping badly, it wasn't my connections well it was when i looked at clouds so i logged off :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 15, 2009, 07:29:20 AM
OH and whats the IP address for the game? Im not sure how to find it
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Denholm on July 15, 2009, 07:41:06 AM
The IPs are written in bold located in this thread:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,68316.0.html
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 15, 2009, 07:42:12 AM
thanks how do you change your connection rate?
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4) If you are connecting using a 56K modem, try reducing your connection rate to 33.6K.  56K modems normally have much slower speeds coming from your computer (<19.2K), whereas a 33.6K connection will usually run >26.4K on the downlink from your computer.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Denholm on July 15, 2009, 08:08:40 AM
You can't change it. Instead, you can take measures to ensure it remains steady. For instance, any software firewalls between you and the Internet will slow down the connection since all incoming and outgoing packets are analyzed for your computer's safety. Also, if you run a phone-line through your surge-protector before inserting it into your DSL/Cable modem you are degrading the signal quality. Surge Protectors look at the high-frequency DSL/Cable signal as a power-spike. So they suppress the signal quality to prevent damage to any electrical components.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 15, 2009, 08:15:53 AM
i have all my phone lines connected to a DSL filter to help
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Denholm on July 15, 2009, 08:22:19 AM
As far as I'm aware, they won't degrade the signal. Just so you know, if you're not hooking up a phone to that DSL filter, there's no need for it. The DSL portion of the phone-line filter is a non-filtered outlet.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tr1gg22 on July 15, 2009, 09:56:59 AM
I do not shut down firefox.. Is there something I need to no about running that and the game?
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 15, 2009, 10:05:14 AM
Well when i take the filters off my phone lines i disco alot so verizon said keep them in
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Masherbrum on July 15, 2009, 11:52:30 AM
Processes being one thing, you might want to consider a cheap video card.   It will free up CPU cycles from the On Board Video you currently have.  That and more RAM.   

Also, I played this game with a P3, 800mhz up until 2006.   I had XP Pro and tried SP2 and reverted back to 14 processes on SP1.   I pulled 35FPS on a Ti400 and 1st gen DDR-DVI.   SP3 IMO, is too much for that PC to ask and you don't need it.   If you have the XP home disc, I'd reinstall Home and leave it at SP1.    SP2 adds 6-7 processes.   I can only imagine what SP3 adds.   

1.)  Revert from SP3 on that CPU
2.)  More RAM
3.)  Also get a cheap Video Card.   Don't send more than $40 on it. 
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 15, 2009, 01:04:42 PM
I was gona get more ram I heard it helps ALOT...i changed my text detail to 128 and for some reason i forgot to earlier but it helped a little bit
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Denholm on July 15, 2009, 05:11:49 PM
Well when i take the filters off my phone lines i disco alot so verizon said keep them in
Ah. Well, AT&T (Engineering, not tech-support) told me the DSL signal wouldn't change if it were plugged into the wall-socket or the filter. So I left it in the wall-socket (1 foot less travel for the signal).
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 15, 2009, 08:54:11 PM
Skuzzy will this help ? http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-01G-P3-N945-LR-GeForce-PCI-E-Graphics/dp/B001EH8FZA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1247709136&sr=8-1


(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51DAp6WwxRL._SS400_.jpg)
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Skuzzy on July 15, 2009, 09:00:35 PM
Virtually any video card would be a step up from what you have right now, but you will not realize the full benefit of it without more RAM.

Are you even sure that computer can be upgraded?
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 15, 2009, 09:30:47 PM
I've opened up the computer and saw extra slots i know it can have more ram...I'm getting 4 gb pack for it. How can you tell if it is upgradeable?
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Skuzzy on July 16, 2009, 06:04:57 AM
Does it have a PCI-Express slot?  Can the onboard video be disabled in the BIOS?  Will the power supply handle the load?

Compaq/HP are notorious for building computers which cannot be upgraded.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: lazydog on July 16, 2009, 08:13:44 AM
tmac you better check that sys. 1st i think it will only take 2 gigs ram and yes it has a pci 16 slot
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 16, 2009, 08:46:23 AM
Yes it has a PCI slot I don't think it has  a slot for a new graphics card so i think i'll just get the 2 gb of Ram.  I just know my computers low grade and needs atleast something to get it going.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: lazydog on July 16, 2009, 09:52:59 AM
tmac go to compaq web sight find your sys. and it will tell you what upgrades you can make i think you can put a pci express 16  video card in
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 16, 2009, 10:29:49 AM
How do you find the maximum amount of memory that can be added? I figured out that i can add RAM but i need to know how much now
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: lazydog on July 16, 2009, 10:44:12 AM
tmac i took the info from your dxdiag and went to the compaq web sight where it ask you your product name put in SR2010NX
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 16, 2009, 10:47:25 AM
I got the model number and brought it up but i couldnt find how much memory i can put in
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 16, 2009, 10:49:29 AM
FOund the info

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00749173&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&product=3239113&lang=en

i can hold up to 2 gb of memory.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: lazydog on July 16, 2009, 10:54:19 AM
now find out what video card that will for ya
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: brad3854 on July 19, 2009, 10:00:05 PM
I would like to say that I had a problem with warping in the past. The thing that fixed it for me was putting my computer on maximum power. Not power save or anything. I have no idea why it effected my internet connection. I think i did that and disabled Cool and Quiet.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 20, 2009, 07:20:48 PM
is my computer a DDR or DDR2? i'm not sure...can you tell by the DxDiag?


EDIT: Scratch those questions its DDR2

Memory Installed   512 MB

Maximum allowed   2 GB* (2 x 1 GB)
*Actual available memory may be less

Speed supported   PC2-4200 MB/sec


Also i have a sound card its an integrated into my mother board
someone told me i didnt have one but you need one anyways.

Theres 3 PCI slots and only 1 unused and has 1 PCI Express available
Type   240 pin, DDR2 SDRAM


Why is DDR2 cheaper to get?


Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Denholm on July 21, 2009, 10:25:14 AM
You don't need a sound card yet buying one would help speed up the game as it will free up the processor from having to process sound data. DDR2 is less expensive because more of it is being manufactured than plain-old DDR or the new standard DDR3.

It seems your system can utilize DDR2 memory, go for it.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 21, 2009, 11:58:32 AM
Soo get any type of memory as long as its DDR2? or does it have to be PCI Express of just PCI
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Denholm on July 21, 2009, 06:54:21 PM
"PCI Express x16" is the video card slot. I would be careful on the memory aspect, some memory types are just plain worthless while others are rock-solid. Look for positive reviews not only on the product but the company's customer service.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 21, 2009, 07:33:24 PM
alright so get a PCI slot one not a PCI express ? And whats good brands?
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Denholm on July 22, 2009, 01:26:16 PM
You're still missing it. You want a PCIe x16 video card (PCI Express). The PCIe slot is specifically designed for a graphics card. Any PCIe card will run circles around its PCI relative.

The brand will be decided based on your needs. On the NVIDIA side of the house I wouldn't buy anything above a 600 series of a card. For example: 7600, 8600, or 9600. Just make sure to share your findings here so that we can take a look at them. While customer reviews may rave the card is exceptional, we might notice that the card has abnormalities or isn't that great of a deal.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 22, 2009, 11:13:52 PM
GIGABYTE GV-NX72G512E2 GeForce 7200GS 256MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125095)$23.99

Galaxy 72SEE4HDHCXX GeForce 7200GS 256MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162001) $27.99

ZOTAC ZT-84MEG3P-FSL GeForce 8400 GS 256MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500122) $28.99
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Denholm on July 22, 2009, 11:26:17 PM
Out of all of them, the 8400 (your last link) is the best. Here's another one to look at.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130297

It has more stream processors (more graphics power) and faster memory. Obviously it's a little more expensive. The benefits are well worth it, in my opinion.

EDIT: An extra plus, the video card comes from EVGA, which I hear has some good customer service. :aok

EDIT 2: Do you know the wattage of your power supply along with the amperage on the +12V rail? If it's not high enough you may need a new power supply to support any type of graphics card upgrade.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 22, 2009, 11:57:09 PM
No i don't know the power supply, may i ask how i find that out?
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 23, 2009, 06:37:22 AM
Yeah i need this card soon, was just in blue and "gerrydog" kept killing me because he'd hide in trees. I had 44 FPS then 1 tree turned it down to 22 then the whole patch of trees on a V-base dropped it to 3-4 fps :furious. He shot and before the round hit me i was in the tower.

Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Denholm on July 23, 2009, 10:53:01 AM
I didn't find any documentation on your power supply plus a google search didn't return any immediate results. The easiest way to find out is to open up the computer, take a look where your power cord enters the computer, then locate any stickers on that device. You're looking for overall wattage of the power-supply and the Amperage of the +12V rail.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 23, 2009, 11:16:00 AM
Says input 120-127 v and output 12v and 14A
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Denholm on July 23, 2009, 11:56:20 AM
So you have 14 Amps on the +12V? If that's so you will need a new power supply to accommodate any form of a graphics card upgrade.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 23, 2009, 12:52:09 PM
damnit more $$ outta my pocket, how much is it to get a new power supply? And if i can't get it would a bit of ram help? idk why but i run perfectly fine in beta
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Denholm on July 23, 2009, 04:24:55 PM
RAM will definitely help. Best of all, you shouldn't require a new power supply to support that extra RAM.

Your computer is in one of those classic predicaments. You most likely have a small computer case, a low-end power-supply, no video card, no sound card, and hardware which barely emits any heat. Putting in new components (not upgrading existing components) wouldn't be worth it since 1. you might not have the space to support the component. 2. Your computer's casing probably doesn't have ideal airflow. 3. Your computer's casing doesn't have a means to manage any of the internal cables. 4. The component you intend to install emits more heat than your computer's casing was designed to manage.

RAM is really the only thing I would consider upgrading in that system. The rest I would save to build a new computer at a later time.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 23, 2009, 04:40:49 PM
i should have enough cash by next summer for a new computer suppose for now RAM is the best thing



 :salute Thanks for all the help and dealing with my ignorance :P


Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Denholm on July 23, 2009, 04:42:41 PM
If you think you're ignorant, you're a fresh batch of raspberries coating vanilla ice-cream. Others I have met are fresh-sliced onions inside vanilla ice-cream. I think you get the idea.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 23, 2009, 05:31:39 PM
Well i'm not as advanced with this as you are  :P
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 24, 2009, 01:32:40 PM
Was getting more complaints about my warps and lagging so I need to get ram soon.

Bipolar said I have to make sure it runs with my power supply and can handle it

So i downloaded CPU-Z and if you read and let me know what I can handle and maybe search for some RAM for under 40$ 2 gb DDR2

CPU-Z TXT Report
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Binaries
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CPU-Z version         1.52

Processors
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Number of processors      1
Number of threads      1

APICs
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Processor 0   
   -- Core 0   
      -- Thread 0   0

Processors Information
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Processor 1         ID = 0
   Number of cores      1 (max 1)
   Number of threads   1 (max 1)
   Name         AMD Sempron 3400+
   Codename      Manila
   Specification      AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3400+
   Package       Socket AM2 (940)
   CPUID         F.F.2
   Extended CPUID      F.4F
   Brand ID      6
   Core Stepping      DH-F2
   Technology      90 nm
   Core Speed      1002.2 MHz
   Multiplier x FSB   5.0 x 200.4 MHz
   HT Link speed      801.8 MHz
   Stock frequency      1800 MHz
   Instructions sets   MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64
   L1 Data cache      64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
   L1 Instruction cache   64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
   L2 cache      256 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
   FID/VID Control      yes
   Max FID         9.0x
   Max VID         1.450 V

   K8 Thermal sensor   yes
   K8 Revision ID      5.2
   Attached device      PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 0
   Attached device      PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 1
   Attached device      PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 2
   Attached device      PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 3



Chipset
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Northbridge         NVIDIA GeForce 6150 rev. A2
Southbridge         NVIDIA nForce 410/430 MCP rev. A3
Memory Type         DDR2
Memory Size         512 MBytes
Channels         Dual
Memory Frequency      200.4 MHz (CPU/5)
CAS# latency (CL)      4.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD)   4
RAS# Precharge (tRP)      4
Cycle Time (tRAS)      12
Bank Cycle Time (tRC)      17
Command Rate (CR)      1T

Memory SPD
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DIMM #            1
   SMBus address      0x50
   Memory type      DDR2
   Module format      Regular UDIMM
   Manufacturer (ID)   Micron Technology (2CFFFFFFFFFFFFFF)
   Size         256 MBytes
   Max bandwidth      PC2-4300 (266 MHz)
   Part number      4HTF3264AY-53ED3 
   Serial number      D310940C
   Manufacturing date   Week 42/Year 06n
   Number of banks      1
   Data width      64 bits
   Correction      None
   Nominal Voltage      1.80 Volts
   EPP         no
   XMP         no
JEDEC timings table      CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
   JEDEC #1      3.0-3-3-9-12 @ 200 MHz
   JEDEC #2      4.0-4-4-12-16 @ 266 MHz


DIMM #            2
   SMBus address      0x51
   Memory type      DDR2
   Module format      Regular UDIMM
   Manufacturer (ID)   Micron Technology (2CFFFFFFFFFFFFFF)
   Size         256 MBytes
   Max bandwidth      PC2-4300 (266 MHz)
   Part number      4HTF3264AY-53ED3 
   Serial number      D310942A
   Manufacturing date   Week 42/Year 06n
   Number of banks      1
   Data width      64 bits
   Correction      None
   Nominal Voltage      1.80 Volts
   EPP         no
   XMP         no
JEDEC timings table      CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
   JEDEC #1      3.0-3-3-9-12 @ 200 MHz
   JEDEC #2      4.0-4-4-12-16 @ 266 MHz

PCI Device
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Description         RAM Memory Controller
Location         bus 0 (0x00), device 0 (0x00), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
   Vendor ID      0x10DE
   Model ID      0x02F0
   Revision ID      0xA2
   PI         0x00
   SubClass      0x00
   BaseClass      0x05
   Cache Line      0x00
   Latency         0x00
   Header         0x80
PCI header
   Subvendor ID      0x103C
   Subsystem ID      0x2A45
   Int. Line      0x00
   Int. Pin      0x00
PCI capability
   Caps class      tHyperTransport
   Caps offset      0x44
   Caps revision      1.03
   Interface type      Slave/Primary
   Link 0 width (in/out)   16 bits/16 bits
   Link 0 frequency   800 MHz
   Link 1 width (in/out)   8 bits/8 bits
   Link 1 frequency   800 MHz
PCI capability
   Caps class      tHyperTransport
   Caps offset      0xE0
   Interface type      MSI Mapping

Description         PCI to PCI Bridge
Location         bus 0 (0x00), device 2 (0x02), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
   Vendor ID      0x10DE
   Model ID      0x02FC
   Revision ID      0xA1
   PI         0x00
   SubClass      0x04
   BaseClass      0x06
   Cache Line      0x08
   Latency         0x00
   Header         0x01
PCI header
   Primary bus      0x00
   Secondary bus      0x01
   Int. Line      0xFF
   Int. Pin      0x00
PCI capability
   Caps class      Subsystem Vendor
   Caps offset      0x40
   SubVendor ID      0x10DE
   SubSystem ID      0x0000
PCI capability
   Caps class      Power Management
   Caps offset      0x48
   Caps version      1.1
PCI capability
   Caps class      Message Signalled Interrupts
   Caps offset      0x50
PCI capability
   Caps class      tHyperTransport
   Caps offset      0x60
   Interface type      MSI Mapping
PCI capability
   Caps class      PCI Express
   Caps offset      0x80
   Device type      Root Port of PCI-E Root Complex
   Port         2
   Version         1.0
   Physical slot      #0
   Presence detect      no
   Link width      1x (max 1x)

DMI
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DMI BIOS      
   vendor         Phoenix Technologies, LTD
   version         3.00
   date         06/30/2006

DMI System Information      
   manufacturer      Compaq Presario 061
   product         RE467AA-ABA SR2010NX NA640
   version         0n41411RE101NAOS 00
   serial         CNH64319PD
   UUID         805A726F-E3D01110-9382E8A1-2C6504A4

DMI Baseboard      
   vendor         ASUSTek Computer INC.
   model         NAOS
   revision      1.05
   serial         MS1C6AS34600522

DMI System Enclosure      
   manufacturer      unknown
   chassis type      Desktop
   chassis serial      DM0001

DMI Processor      
   manufacturer      AMD
   model         AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3400+
   clock speed      1800.0 MHz
   FSB speed      199.0 MHz
   multiplier      9.0x

DMI Processor      
   manufacturer      Null
   model         Null

DMI Memory Controller      
   correction      64-bit ECC
   Max module size      1024 MBytes

DMI Memory Module      
   designation      A0
   size         256 MBytes (single bank)

DMI Memory Module      
   designation      A1
   size         256 MBytes (single bank)

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      PRIMARY IDE (internal)
   connector      On Board IDE

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      SECONDARY IDE (internal)
   connector      On Board IDE

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      FDD (internal)
   port type      8251 FIFO Compatible
   connector      On Board Floppy

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      PS/2 Keyboard (internal)
   port type      Keyboard Port
   connector      PS/2
   connector      PS/2

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      PS/2 Mouse (internal)
   port type      Mouse Port
   connector      PS/2
   connector      PS/2

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      USB1 (external)
   port type      USB

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      USB2 (external)
   port type      USB

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      USB3 (external)
   port type      USB

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      USB4 (external)
   port type      USB

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      USB5 (external)
   port type      USB

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      USB6 (external)
   port type      USB

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      VIDEO (external)
   port type      Video Port
   connector      DB-15 female

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      Line In (internal)
   designation      Line In (external)
   port type      Audio Port

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      Line Out (internal)
   designation      Line Out (external)
   port type      Audio Port
   connector      Mini Jack (headphones)

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      Mic In (internal)
   designation      Mic In (external)
   port type      Audio Port
   connector      Mini Jack (headphones)

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      Front Panel (internal)
   designation      Front Panel (external)
   port type      Audio Port

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      ETHERNET (external)
   port type      Network Port
   connector      RJ-45

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      SATA1 (internal)
   connector      On Board IDE

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      SATA2 (internal)
   connector      On Board IDE

DMI Port Connector      
   designation      CPU_FAN1 (internal)

DMI Extension Slot      
   designation      PCI1
   type         PCI
   width         32 bits
   populated      no

DMI Extension Slot      
   designation      PCI2
   type         PCI
   width         32 bits
   populated      no

DMI Extension Slot      
   designation      PCI3
   type         PCI
   width         32 bits
   populated      no

DMI Extension Slot      
   designation      PCIEX16
   type         A5
   populated      no

DMI Physical Memory Array      
   location      Motherboard
   usage         System Memory
   correction      None
   max capacity      2048 MBytes
   max# of devices      2

DMI Memory Device      
   designation      A0
   format         DIMM
   type         unknown
   total width      64 bits
   data width      64 bits
   size         256 MBytes

DMI Memory Device      
   designation      A1
   format         DIMM
   type         unknown
   total width      64 bits
   data width      64 bits
   size         256 MBytes




I know its alot to read but wasn't sure what to post



Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 24, 2009, 02:50:03 PM
Oh and I put in Old RAM from my moms windows Vista to see what would happen it was a stick of 512mb bringing my RAM to 702mbs of RAM and then went to log into AH2 and it said screen resolution to high see owners manual or lower resolution. I was running resoulion 1024x728 i think thats what it is for AH2. Why did that happen? And I'm going to pick up a Vista card and going to purchase it tonight if i can and get info i need..THanks again

-Tmacc73
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Denholm on July 24, 2009, 05:35:06 PM
How many sticks do you have in that system right now?

With DDR2 memory you need to make sure to buy it paired (two in the package), otherwise it won't work together. Therefore you would be buying two new sticks of RAM, not buying one stick to add to the memory you already have in your system.

I wouldn't worry about the power-supply supporting the RAM. If you're not buying gaming-memory you should be fine.
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Tmac7 on July 24, 2009, 06:43:10 PM
Alright its 2 sticks in right now same kind. Its PC2-4300 does it have to be the same type or can i get PC2-5400 etc etc?
Title: Re: Lots of warping and lag
Post by: Denholm on July 27, 2009, 01:50:51 PM
You can try the PC2-5400 RAM. However, there are no guarantees that it will run as fast as it's designed to. Your system is so old I doubt it will support faster memory forcing it to run at slower speeds.