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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: allaire on July 15, 2009, 06:45:11 AM
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You can track the Apollo 11 mission in realtime http://wechoosethemoon.org (http://wechoosethemoon.org).
Also you can see archival mission photos and video.
:salute to Anodizer for finding this.
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You can track the Apollo 11 mission in realtime http://wechoosethemoon.org (http://wechoosethemoon.org).
Also you can see archival mission photos and video.
:salute to Anodizer for finding this.
<S> Thank you sir.... :salute
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Funny, I remember tracking it in real time in "real time" :confused:
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Funny, I remember tracking it in real time in "real time" :confused:
I see, so yer old! :rock Lucky you though, I always wished I could have seen a Saturn V launch in person.
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I see, so yer old! :rock Lucky you though, I always wished I could have seen a Saturn V launch in person.
Absolutely.....
I've seen 1 shuttle launch while at Space Camp as a kid.. That was incredible and I remember it vividly..
Can only imagine what it would've been like to literally feel the rumble of those 5 F-1 engines while witnessing a Saturn V launch...
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I got to see the Apollo 8 launch. Never felt anything like it. Not only the ground shaking, but the waves of low level sonic pulses would cause you to waver around like a flag. It was a helluva Christmas present.
7.5 million pounds of thrust. Mind boggling.
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Funny, I remember tracking it in real time in "real time" :confused:
QFT
I remember them wheeling in TVs into the classrooms to watch apollo launches, Recoveries ETC.
Every launch and tidbit was big news back then with every detail covered. It was an amazing time.
Now the big news isnt our recent accomplishments. But about the pimple that was spotted on some celebrities butt when they were at a beach LOL
Im going ot be checking this one out with may daughter. Should be kinda fun to relive the old days and give her a taste of what it was like back then.
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I got to see the Apollo 8 launch. Never felt anything like it. Not only the ground shaking, but the waves of low level sonic pulses would cause you to waver around like a flag. It was a helluva Christmas present.
7.5 million pounds of thrust. Mind boggling.
Hot damn that's awesome! :rock
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:rock
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commencing stage 4 in 8 mins
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(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/flipperk/Untitled.jpg)
Just awesome!
Great find!! :aok
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Not only the ground shaking, but the waves of low level sonic pulses would cause you to waver around like a flag. It was a helluva Christmas present.
Skuzzy, i bet you feel like that when you band somebody from the fourm or AH. :D
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I remember the Apollo program like it was yesterday. The Tragedy of Apollo 1. The incredible triumphs of 8 & 11. The entire world actually coming together for 13. But most of all I remember watching that first step during 11. At the time we were never told of many of the near disasters and NASA downplayed the dangers.
It was a heckuva time to be an American I can tell you that much. :salute
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Skuzzy, i bet you feel like that when you band somebody from the fourm or AH. :D
I get no pleasure from banning or suspending people from the board. I get more frustrated than anything else.
Back on topic.
One of the concerns with the lunar lander was when they (Apollo 11) were landing on the Moon, they botched the landing and flew it too long almost running it out of fuel. Back home, they were pretty sure if the lander had run out of fuel it would have exploded as the last bit of fuel would not have been able to pump out and the flame would have fed back into the fuel chamber. It was something they did not think they had to worry about.
Mission control was like, "get the damn thing on the ground! NOW!".
There has been a lot of information released recently about those days and the things the public were not aware of. I have a list of things at home that wre just recently released. I'll dig up some more, if anyone is interested.
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One of the concerns with the lunar lander was when they (Apollo 11) were landing on the Moon, they botched the landing and flew it too long almost running it out of fuel. Back home, they were pretty sure if the lander had run out of fuel it would have exploded as the last bit of fuel would not have been able to pump out and the flame would have fed back into the fuel chamber. It was something they did not think they had to worry about.
Mission control was like, "get the damn thing on the ground! NOW!".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/sci_tech/2009/moon_landing/8152846.stm
7. When the lunar module Eagle was still 20ft above the surface, Armstrong and Aldrin were told they had only 30 seconds of fuel left. If they still hadn't landed by then, Mission Control would have ordered Armstrong to abort the landing. But would he have? Back on Earth, Armstrong revealed, "if I'd run out of fuel, why, I would have put down right there... I could fall from a fairly good height, perhaps maybe 40ft or more in the low lunar gravity, the gear would absorb that much fall. So I was perhaps probably less concerned about it than a lot of people watching on Earth". (As it turned out, after the mission Nasa calculated that Eagle could have flown for at least another minute).
Buzz Aldrin became the first human to urinate on another world!
:rofl
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Missing one vital piece of commentary from a representative of Rocketdyne. The builder of the descent engine who was in Mission Control at the time of the landing. I have the quotes at home. I paraphrased the above.
Like I said, if anyone is interested.
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Yep, post it... :)
BTW, how close were you to the launch for Apollo 8?
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We were next to the stadium seating. I was standing on a chair. I do not recall what that exact distance was.
By the way, the resource for the new information recently released is the Smithsonian.
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I'm curious how close I'd have to be to give my little step brother (6 yo) that same impression next year. It probably varies with the day's weather, but if thrust is the major factor, the Shuttle should be good enough. I know a friend said he could feel it shake his guts on the launch he got to see from the VAB. Car alarms went off.
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Back home, they were pretty sure if the lander had run out of fuel it would have exploded as the last bit of fuel would not have been able to pump out and the flame would have fed back into the fuel chamber. It was something they did not think they had to worry about.
In most rocket designs there is little chance of back feeding of fire. This is mainly due to lack of oxygen, helium pressurant and redundant check valves. Pressure fed rocket engines were run dry all the time back then. In the event the engine did run dry the helium pressurant would have suppressed any fire. The lunar decent engine was a marvel of simplicity and the ascent engine was even a better specimen. The engine had only one moving part, the propellant feed valves which were double redundant. The propellants themselves were hypergolic and required no ignition source. The biggest concern on landing was back pressure from the rocket exhaust. The close proximity of the ground to nozzle was thought to build pressure past safety margins. In fact, it was standard procedure to shut the engines off 5-10 feet off the ground to avoid this.
<S> To all the fine engineers who made this possible....have had a chance to meet and talk with a few of them.
Strip
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Strip here is the quote from the Rocketdyne rep (Apollo engineer) on how he felt about the landing.
"I was relieved. Our tests had shown that there was a small chance the exhaust could shoot back into the rocket as it landed and ignite the remaining propellant."
More tidbits.
NASA had seated the VIP's for the launch 3.5 miles away. It was the distance NASA had calculated shrapnel, from the Saturn V, would fly if it exploded on the pad.
The lander was 4 miles off course for landing due to the cabin of the orbiter not being fully depressurized when they separated. The force of the separation caused the error.
Armstrong let the descent engine burn too long and as a result the legs of the lander did not compress, upon landing, which caused him to have to jump from the bottom rung of the ladder to the Moon's surface. About 3.5 feet.
When Buzz Aldrin joined Armstrong on the surface, he had to be sure not to lock Eagle's door, as it had no outside handle.
The flag left on the Moon was made by Sears, but NASA would not allow Sears to advertise that fact as they did not want another "Tang" episode again.
There are more. Most of which has been compiled into a book by Viking named "Rocket Men". Good read by the way.
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The flag left on the Moon was made by Sears, but NASA would not allow Sears to advertise that fact as they did not want another "Tang" episode again.
"Tang " episode? what was the controversy surrounding that?
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The fact Tang built a marketing campaign around the product, which was never endorsed by NASA. NASA got zero money for it and they were actually quite embarrassed about it and did not want a repeat of it.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8152161.stm
cool little slide show from the bbc..
:D
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- 1 hr till stage 7
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I know 'Buzz' Aldrin right now is making the rounds of the radio talk/interviews talking about the anniversary.
What about Neil Armstrong? What's he up to these days? Or has he gone right royal reclusive?
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Flying on the wings of 'Eagle' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8154004.stm)
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I know 'Buzz' Aldrin right now is making the rounds of the radio talk/interviews talking about the anniversary.
What about Neil Armstrong? What's he up to these days? Or has he gone right royal reclusive?
The most recent TIME magazine has a nice article about the Apollo Astronauts.
Armstrong (according to the article) has removed himself from the limelight so to speak. When any of the other Apollo Astronauts are asked about him especially Aldrin they get a little testy and pretty much say the same thing, He has done his time, done all the PR stuff NASA wanted and he is a great American....he just wants to be left alone now.
If you have the chance read the article. It goes into detail about how NASA let those guys down AFTER the missions were over, they all kinda suffered from some form of depression. After such a climatic achievement nothing else really compares.
The current Astronauts are better supported by NASA because of what they learned from the Apollo guys.
It also goes into what they are doing now. I found it interesting that one of them (can't recall which one ATM) is now a painter. Mainly he paints his compadres from the Apollo days as well as the rockets ect. Also several of them got into real estate and....beer distributorships :confused: guess at the time there was alot of money in beer :lol
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beer? you bet... a lot of money still in beer "IF" you can get a distributorship.
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The most recent TIME magazine has a nice article about the Apollo Astronauts.
Armstrong (according to the article) has removed himself from the limelight so to speak. When any of the other Apollo Astronauts are asked about him especially Aldrin they get a little testy and pretty much say the same thing, He has done his time, done all the PR stuff NASA wanted and he is a great American....he just wants to be left alone now.
If you have the chance read the article. It goes into detail about how NASA let those guys down AFTER the missions were over, they all kinda suffered from some form of depression. After such a climatic achievement nothing else really compares.
The current Astronauts are better supported by NASA because of what they learned from the Apollo guys.
It also goes into what they are doing now. I found it interesting that one of them (can't recall which one ATM) is now a painter. Mainly he paints his compadres from the Apollo days as well as the rockets ect. Also several of them got into real estate and....beer distributorships :confused: guess at the time there was alot of money in beer :lol
Al Bean from Apollo 12 is the artist... I have this print signed by him...
http://www.alanbean.com/gallery3.cfm?id=1992-The-Fantasy-Conrad-Gordon-and-Bean (http://www.alanbean.com/gallery3.cfm?id=1992-The-Fantasy-Conrad-Gordon-and-Bean)
I'm a big Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo junkie...
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42 mins to go
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30 min! :rock
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20 mins! :O
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10 MINS TILL LANDING ON THE MOON!!!! :rock
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3 MIN!!!! HURRY
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3000 feet
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1 MIN!!!!!
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Landing animation was early :P
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TOUCHDOWN! WWWWWOOOOOOOWWWWWW
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The eagle has landed..
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TOUCHDOWN! WWWWWOOOOOOOWWWWWW
I watched it when it really happened...............
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That's a shame how they let them down back then. After they select these guys for all these attributes, I guess they didn't look at the mental aftermath that they would go through. Post Traumatic stress syndrome?
But I can see it happening. I mean...after you scribble "walked on moon" on your resume...what do you do with the rest of your life? What could you possibly acheive after that?
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I watched it when it really happened...............
That must have been a great event in your life to see that. I wasn't born till 76 so the only great event(s) i witness is collapes of Russia, Gulf war and 9/11.
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I watched it too. Pretty amazing stuff.
It was cool to learn later that handle on the toggle switch that ignited the rocket to blast off the moon was broken when the astronauts were getting in and out of the lunar lander. They used a ball point pen and stuck it in the switch to activate the rocket to blast off.
What ever works! :salute
<S>Swoose
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I got to see the Apollo 8 launch. Never felt anything like it. Not only the ground shaking, but the waves of low level sonic pulses would cause you to waver around like a flag. It was a helluva Christmas present.
7.5 million pounds of thrust. Mind boggling.
Can we get it...
Pleeeeeeeeeasssseeeee?