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Title: dear htc
Post by: xOLLYx on July 17, 2009, 08:28:05 AM
here is a big wish list all the planes are in il2 1946 and where used in ww2 some are EW MW LW and can be used in FSO or scenarios

USSR

I-153 M62
I-153 T18
1-16 T24
1-185 M71
1-250
LaGG 3
LaGG 31T
LaGG 3RD
MIG 3
MIG 91  300
P63 C-5
PE 21
TB 3
YAK 15 (JET)

POLE

P.11C

RAF
HAWK 81A-2
BEAUFIGHTER MK21


JAP A6M 2N
G4M1-11
KI 27 KO
KI 43 LA
KI 61 1 HEI


GERMAN
DO 335A0
BF109Z
HE 111H2
HE 162 A2
LERCHE III A2
JU87 G1


ITALY CR 42
G 50
IAR 80

i know am not asking for much but thats my wishlist and for my next trick i will be walking on water
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: Saxman on July 17, 2009, 09:24:17 AM
There's not much place for the A6M2-N even in sceario play. The Float Zeke saw very little use.

There's only scattered evidence of P-63s ever seeing combat.

Do-335 and Bf-109Z never saw combat

AND NO MORE JETS!!!!!!!!  :furious :furious :furious
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: Enker on July 17, 2009, 02:11:08 PM
The Lerche never even made it off the drawing boards.
We already have the Ki-61, unless you speak of some variant.
I have not heard of any evidence that the Yak-15 ever saw combat.

IL-2 is developed by some 100+ people (I think?) whereas Aces High is developed by 10 (I think) Considering that we get around 2 planes per update, there would be a long time before we get all of these. Plus, IL-2 sucks. Need an example? Look at their .50 cals. They are no better than BBs.
i know am not asking for much but thats my wishlist and for my next trick i will be walking on water :rofl Now THAT is an understatement!
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: Motherland on July 17, 2009, 02:13:01 PM
whereas Aces High is developed by 10 (I think)
I'm pretty sure HiTech, Pyro, Waffle and Superfly are the only ones involved with game development.

The IAR 80 is Romanian, not Italian.

A lot of those planes never saw combat or were never even built. It's called Il2 1946 for a reason :)
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: Denholm on July 17, 2009, 02:15:30 PM
...GERMAN...
...HE 111H2...
Now there's a wish I can get behind. :D

+1
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 17, 2009, 06:13:25 PM
here is a big wish list all the planes are in il2 1946 and where used in ww2 some are EW MW LW and can be used in FSO or scenarios

USSR
YAK 15 (JET)

First flight was in 1946, WW2 ended in 1945.

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JAP
KI 61 1 HEI

Brings nothing new to the game the version of the Tony we have doesn't already bring to the table. 


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GERMAN
DO 335A0
BF109Z

Only 13 Do 335A-0s were built before the war ended and there is only one report of any Allied pilots encountering one in combat operations when a Frenchman flying for the Free French in the RAF encountered a Do 335A-0 which promptly out ran the RAF Tempest.  Doesn't meet the qualifications to be added to the game.

Bf 109Z "Zwilling" never flew.

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ITALY
IAR 80

It helps when suggesting a wishlist for a plane that you actually do some research so that the very least, you'll know which countries flew which plane.  IAR 80 was a Romanian designed and built fighter not Italian.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/IAR-80.jpg)

ack-ack
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: texastc316 on July 17, 2009, 06:25:18 PM
Bring on the IAR 80!!!
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: xOLLYx on July 17, 2009, 07:31:51 PM
See Rule #6
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 17, 2009, 08:09:09 PM
See Rule #6

Just because a certain country's plane set needs to be filled out it doesn't necessarily mean we need to add planes that never saw any action in the war or "What If" planes.  Yes, the .303 rifle caliber round was relatively weak compared to the .50 caliber and cannons used but you have to remember that the .303 is essentially a rifle round.  It can still be very deadly but still not effective as a .50 caliber or cannon.

ack-ack
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: Bruv119 on July 18, 2009, 06:06:35 AM
the lagg 3  was a  "flying coffin"  POS    if there was ever a hangar queen this would be it .

The I-16 we have in beta and is a very fun plane.

We do need a russian bomber and the TU-2 should be first in line IMO.

and of course we need the uber Yak -3 to complete the yak series.
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: AirFlyer on July 18, 2009, 07:05:01 AM
Not so sure on the A6M2-N but it would be cool to have a float plane. Given the choice though I'd rather have the A6M3 21 or 32 model(in that order).
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: xOLLYx on July 18, 2009, 07:42:47 AM
the A6M2-N can be at the port next to the ships something to blow up has well or fly them has a scout plane for the cv in fso or scenarios
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: Martyn on July 19, 2009, 06:11:29 AM
Wot about the Fairey Battle then?  :x
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: Anaxogoras on July 19, 2009, 11:27:09 AM
Plus, IL-2 sucks. Need an example? Look at their .50 cals. They are no better than BBs.

I find them to be about the same lethality as AH, but gunnery in general is more difficult in Il-2, which may explain your BB perception.  The only thing I can think of for why it's more difficult in Il-2 is that you don't see large hit strikes from .30 and .50 cal bullets, and so there's a lot less feedback to learn from.
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: Enker on July 19, 2009, 12:14:49 PM
I find them to be about the same lethality as AH, but gunnery in general is more difficult in Il-2, which may explain your BB perception.  The only thing I can think of for why it's more difficult in Il-2 is that you don't see large hit strikes from .30 and .50 cal bullets, and so there's a lot less feedback to learn from.
The gunnery is different in IL-2, I will agree to that. However, when I am shooting at the suicidal D3A1s at 100 feet, I can get a good 1 second burst into the wing of the D3A1, and I simply get a fire, rather than the "wing being sawn off." If you try it on a He-111, you simply aerate the wing, as you would with any gun until you step it up to cannon rounds. This is why I think .50 cals in IL-2 are screwy. I mean, if you can saw off the wing of a B-17 with .50 cals here, why can you not against a He-111 or Ju-88 in IL-2?
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: Anaxogoras on July 19, 2009, 12:59:46 PM
Ahhh, but therein lies the superiority of Il-2's damage model.  It is far, far easier to down a Ju-88 with a Hurricane MkI in that sim because you can start a fire with a good burst of BB fire; taking off the wing is not required.

How many clips of Luftwaffe gun cam footage have you seen where a B-17's wing came off from 20mm or even 30mm shells?  I haven't seen one. 
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: Saxman on July 19, 2009, 02:06:50 PM
The biggest issue I ever saw with the .50cal in IL-2 is that it took them FOR-E-VER to fix the ridiculous amount of nose slewing caused by firing wing-mounted .50s. It was like trying to fire the B-25's 75mm mounted out on the wings. Unsynchronized.
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: Motherland on July 19, 2009, 02:45:45 PM
How many clips of Luftwaffe gun cam footage have you seen where a B-17's wing came off from 20mm or even 30mm shells?  I haven't seen one. 
Although I've not seen it on film, it's not a rare thing to read about in recollections from Luftwaffe pilots.
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: Ghosth on July 20, 2009, 06:16:49 AM
Dunno, maybe HT likes pony's with .50's and is giving them the benefit of the doubt?
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: Anaxogoras on July 20, 2009, 08:42:49 AM
The biggest issue I ever saw with the .50cal in IL-2 is that it took them FOR-E-VER to fix the ridiculous amount of nose slewing caused by firing wing-mounted .50s. It was like trying to fire the B-25's 75mm mounted out on the wings. Unsynchronized.

Yeah, I never experienced that for myself, but I understand that the left wing bank of .50s would all fire at the same time, followed a split second later by the 3 right wing bank of .50s.  Neither the Yak or the Lavochkin has wing mounted guns, and so they were immune from the problem, which lead to all sorts of cries of conspiracy against American aircraft.  And to this day, they still go on and on about how the P-51 is undermodeled, kind of like here at AH. ;)
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: Saxman on July 20, 2009, 10:23:58 AM
Yeah, I never experienced that for myself, but I understand that the left wing bank of .50s would all fire at the same time, followed a split second later by the 3 right wing bank of .50s.  Neither the Yak or the Lavochkin has wing mounted guns, and so they were immune from the problem, which lead to all sorts of cries of conspiracy against American aircraft.  And to this day, they still go on and on about how the P-51 is undermodeled, kind of like here at AH. ;)

It wasn't just that the guns weren't synched properly, the recoil was ridiculously overmodelled. In the last patch even if you lose your entire right bank of guns it doesn't kick your nose around nearly as bad as it did before they fixed the recoil.

As for the conspiracy, I think the fact they tossed in late-war Luftwaffe and Russian monsters--many of which never even left the DRAWING BOARD much less saw combat--but refused to add the best American (if not ALL sides) fighter of the war (which DID see combat) contributes to that perception. At the very least it doesn't help dispell it.
Title: Re: dear htc
Post by: Enker on July 20, 2009, 11:30:10 AM
Yeah, I never experienced that for myself, but I understand that the left wing bank of .50s would all fire at the same time, followed a split second later by the 3 right wing bank of .50s.  Neither the Yak or the Lavochkin has wing mounted guns, and so they were immune from the problem, which lead to all sorts of cries of conspiracy against American aircraft.  And to this day, they still go on and on about how the P-51 is undermodeled, kind of like here at AH. ;)
They claim the P-51 is undermodeled, yet I have seen P-51s trying to turn with N1Ks and Ki-84s. This may be the reason for the outcries? Me thinketh so.