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Special Events Forums => Friday Squad Operations => Topic started by: daddog on July 21, 2009, 11:12:36 AM
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In the next week or so I hope we can add in a slot for squads on the FSO events pages that would list a squads ‘dedicated ride’. That would be the ride that a squad would most want. A ride that would historically fit their squad.
I know it has been frustrating for some squads to be a ‘historical squad’ and have opportunities to fly their squad ride only to be passed over and assigned something else.
Having a dedicated ride for your squad will not guarantee that ride by any means, but it will be one more visual tool for a CiC to look over and consider what rides to assign his squads.
Be thinking about this and discuss it with your squad. I am not sure it will be something that we (CM’s) will change or update. It could be a static piece of information that a CiC could simply view to help him decide what rides he should assign. So consider it carefully. You may not be able to change it any time soon.
I will post a link in this thread if it is something C.O.s will be able to do or just ask you here and the CM’s would enter in the information.
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I like this idea.
:aok :aok :aok
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I can't take credit.
I think it was Shifty who gave me the idea. :)
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I'm loving what you're doing DD!!
Guess I can skip writing up that complaint email. :)
P.S. Don't be so humble, Shifty ain't that bright. :devil
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Not that I would speak for Stampf, but I guess it would not be too much of a stretch to guess which rides we prefer :D
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Not that I would speak for Stampf, but I guess it would not be too much of a stretch to guess which rides we prefer :D
Well, DD isn't talking about saying "Luftwaffe", "USN", etc. He's saying specific plane types. For my squad it would be P-47 series. For Sax's squad it would be the F4U series. For you guys, I'm assuming FW-190 series or Bf-109 series?
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Well, DD isn't talking about saying "Luftwaffe", "USN", etc. He's saying specific plane types. For my squad it would be P-47 series. For Sax's squad it would be the F4U series. For you guys, I'm assuming FW-190 series or Bf-109 series?
My response was kinda meant to be tongue-in-cheek, but, to answer your question without overstepping my authority (which is probably none :D ) I would be inclined to respond with a yes. :noid
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Ahh...sorry. One of these days I'll lighten up. :o
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Not that I would speak for Stampf, but I guess it would not be too much of a stretch to guess which rides we prefer :D
You mean Hurricane MK1 right :)
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LOL Thanks Bug. :)
I would like to list the P-38 for my squad but I would be in the dog house for months. ;)
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So... I hope that allowing squads to declare this preference doesn't end up screwing over the squads who don't declare a preferred ride... Sticking them in the sucky planes more often...
I'm not saying that it would, just tossing up a "concern"...
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:aok
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LOL Thanks Bug. :)
I would like to list the P-38 for my squad but I would be in the dog house for months. ;)
I'd have to make room for you, then :lol
I'm always in the dog house. Damn good thing there is always plenty of beer there :aok
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For you guys, I'm assuming FW-190 series or Bf-109 series?
That's an interesting question, as JG11 was equipped with every model of the 190 in the game, as well as every Bf 109 starting with the G-1 (although, evidently not the G-2), as the Geschwader was formed in May 1943. Specifically III/JG11 (the designation we carry in the SEA) was for the most part dedicated to the Focke Wulf, some 109's found their way in (ex. Anton Hackl's G-6 that fencer did).
So really any German fighter aircraft during the time that JG11 existed, save the Bf 110 and the Me 262 could be considered historical (we certainly have skins for all of them :) )
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Well it looks like forHIM already set it up. :aok
I can add that information to any squad that wants it listed. :)
I don't think you guys can do it when you update your FSO info. I tried my squad and did not see an option for that. In any case post here if you want a dedicated ride. I will be happy to enter that information for you.
Don't change your mind next week. You will be stuck with it for a while. :cool:
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P.S. Don't be so humble, Shifty ain't that bright. :devil
I managed to get you away from those taters didn't I? :D
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DD,
Please set VMF-251's dedicated ride to the F4U series, with a particular preference for the 1A.
:salute
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This is a great idea. As CiC I have always given a squad their dedicated ride when I have had the chance to. In fact their was one time I gave our a ride because the squad's unit was represented in the skin selection. P40E, with the 68th Lightning Lancers skin IIRC.
:aok daddog
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Great idea DD
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As a member of one of the smaller squads, is there any provision that those of us who field 7 pilots, for example, can be given the same consideration as those squads who field 20 pilots when it comes to preferred rides?
It seems that we seldom get to fly "blue" planes in FSO yet we see the same large squads flying the preferred ride for that particular event. This is mearly a quesition and observation based on our history.
Our squad is not like some who, if they don't get the ride they want, they either fly the sortie in any manner the prefer and forget the flight plan or they simply don't show up. My squad is a great bunch of guys and we follow the rules of engagement even when we get stuck with the "box kites" some countries have. I'd just like some assurance that equal consideration is given to all squads not matter what size they field.
Disco
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LOL Thanks Bug. :)
I would like to list the P-38 for my squad but I would be in the dog house for months. ;)
:O :cry, well there is one with a little bit of blue on it and I can probably smack the wings on the tarmack a bit till they are bent :lol
:salute
BigRat
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So... I hope that allowing squads to declare this preference doesn't end up screwing over the squads who don't declare a preferred ride... Sticking them in the sucky planes more often...
I don't see that PFactor. Besides most of the time squads preferred ride will not be available. They don't come around often. Some times the might even be on the opposite side.
lol BigRat. :)
As a member of one of the smaller squads, is there any provision that those of us who field 7 pilots, for example, can be given the same consideration as those squads who field 20 pilots when it comes to preferred rides?
fjaloma/Disco squad size has nothing to do with this. If you want a dedicated ride say so and I will list it. What the CiC does with this new list is up to them, but at least this information will be available to them.
Done Saxman.
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yeah yeah, squad dedicated rides. what I want to know is can Malap and myself get Spit V dedicated rides? Regardless of theater, time frame, and side? :)
Like this Friday, I'm sure the US Navy had two Spit V (not Seafires!, Spit V!!!) somewhere in the fleet that could be assigned to Malap and myself. :pray
and Daddog, not that us 332nd Mongrels are modeled directly after the historic 332nd Fighter Group, but they never flew P-38's off the top of my head. P-40's, P-47's and the famously red tailed P-51s, but not P-38's. Though we should request the P-51D once in awhile when available and fly with the 332nd FG skin. :)
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Is this supposed to be for historically named squads, or just "We're the 666th Fighting Leprechauns and our favorite plane is the Spit 16 can we get it in FSO when it's available kplzthx"?
Just wondering.
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Is this supposed to be for historically named squads, or just...
That was my intention. For squads that have some historical background.
Am I going to check to make sure? Nope. If squads list a dedicated ride I am fine with that. I don't care what they call themselves.
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lol Nifty. :D
Rgr about the P-51D. :)
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VF-17's Historic Ride Request
F4U-1A and F6F-5
F4U-1A Solomon Islands 1943/1944
F6F-5 USS Hornet 1944/1945
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Done Shifty.
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VF-6 Fighter Squadron (Felix the cat sqdn.)
F6F-5 & F4F
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316th
F4U any available
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82nd FG ( When registered )
P-38 ( Any Models )
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334th Fighter Squadron's requests
Spit V
P-47D11
P-51B
P-51D
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Is this going to be a selectable option at ahevents.org? Or do we need to post here?
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334th Fighter Squadron's requests
Spit V
P-47D11
P-51B
P-51D
I think you need to pick just one... :)
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New squads: will have choice at registration. It's a one-time, one-plane choice. For existing Squads, DD's been given the ability to go back and add it to your squad's registration.
The ride will show up under your squad's name in the View Side Assignments (Table-only) display and it will display as a read-only item on your squad update page.
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334th FG flew the Spit V, razorback P-47s, and the P-51B and D.
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I think you need to pick just one... :)
Oh but the Navy does not have to "pick one" ?
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334th FG flew the Spit V, razorback P-47s, and the P-51B and D.
4th FG flew those, the 334th FS was part of the 4th FG.
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4th FG flew those, the 334th FS was part of the 4th FG.
errr yeah, 334th FS. :P
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Oh but the Navy does not have to "pick one" ?
Don't know what VF-17 is going to list. My understanding was to list one airframe. I guess you could go P-51 instead of P-51B or P-51D. I had planned on listing 5th Air Force as P-47.
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The more I think about it, what difference is this from the Ride Preference?
For example:
The 412th rotates from Allied to Axis every Month. The only time we do not rotate is when the P-51 is going to be in the Allied Planeset.
When the P-51 is in the planeset, I make sure our Ride Preference is listed as P-51. When it is not, we usually list the Ride Preference as FIGHTERS.
I've seen other squads list certain things in there ride preference like "P-## is our Historical Ride"...
So going back to your explanation DD, if the CIC doesn't take the the ride preference a CO or XO has filled out into consideration, what is going to make them take that into consideration?
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Don't know what VF-17 is going to list. My understanding was to list one airframe. I guess you could go P-51 instead of P-51B or P-51D. I had planned on listing 5th Air Force as P-47.
Well the two navy Squads above this both listed two aircraft but the point is moot. (VF-17 and VF-6)
We will list the P-51 as per ForHim's post after my initial post.
As a side note, as little as some planes are provided for in FSOs it would seem that something like it currently is for each frame, a list of prefered historical aircraft could be listed.
I know that I made an effort to put people in their historical rides and fill out the requests made for the event when I was CiC. But you can tell alot of the CiCs are clueless about history and could care less about putting effort into even researching who flew what the previous frames, thereby not spreading the "premium" rides or "bad" rides around each month.
All in all this is a good idea and I do appreciate it.
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The more I think about it, what difference is this from the Ride Preference?
For example:
The 412th rotates from Allied to Axis every Month. The only time we do not rotate is when the P-51 is going to be in the Allied Planeset.
When the P-51 is in the planeset, I make sure our Ride Preference is listed as P-51. When it is not, we usually list the Ride Preference as FIGHTERS.
I've seen other squads list certain things in there ride preference like "P-## is our Historical Ride"...
So going back to your explanation DD, if the CIC doesn't take the the ride preference a CO or XO has filled out into consideration, what is going to make them take that into consideration?
I know from experience as a CiC that you are not always able to give a squad the plane requested 100% of the time with the objectives given. At times there are restrictions on how many (%’s) plane models to assign in a set frame. To achieve a set of orders and meet the requirements there has to be some give.
To get to your questions Nef…
I believe DD’s “Dedicated Ride” option is for the times when an FSO event comes up and your squad is not looked over when a theater/event that would fit your historic squad is available. whew...
My questions would be. Are the squads that do not have a historical squadron name still given this option? Or is this a “Dedicated Ride” that your squad as a whole loves to fly?
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The more I think about it, what difference is this from the Ride Preference?
I suppose there is some duplication of effort, but, some times the ride preference is pointed directly at the setup for the month. I know when I'm assigning squads during my setups, I'll take historical rides into consideration before I make a squad Axis or Allied. Some squads I know what their historical ride is, others I don't.
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One plane. Listing an F4U, P-38, P-51, P-47 would cover all the bases for that type.
Texast I don’t see a 316th squad listed.
JjTalon I don’t see the 82nd FG listed.
No need to post up a squads ride that is not currently involved with FSO gents.
So going back to your explanation DD, if the CIC doesn't take the the ride preference a CO or XO has filled out into consideration, what is going to make them take that into consideration?
Nothing is going to make them Nef. They may totally ignore it and you guys have the option of sending them PM’s and letting them know what you think. ;) But by doing this at least the information is there so IF a CiC wants to accommodate they can with ease.
Lastly this is just an option. No one has to list a dedicated ride if they don’t want to.
RATT someone asked that before. Any squad can list any ride they want. I am not going to check to see if it is accurate.
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Aye, aye!
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DD,
Put us in for the Fw190 please.
(Oh and is there a way to get rid of the \ marks before and after Sonderstaffel. Squad name should read III/JG11 "Sonderstaffel" but comes out as III/JG11 /"Sonderstaffel"/.
Ty, Sir.
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But by doing this at least the information is there so IF a CiC wants to accommodate they can with ease.
Just seems redundant. We have a feature that does that already.
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I tried several times Stampf. It keeps putting back the / marks. I will ask forHIM about it. Listed the 190.
Just seems redundant. We have a feature that does that already.
I suppose it could be for some Nef, but what good would it do for example for Stampf to list the 190 in the current PAC setup?
It is a static piece of information. This way a squad can list their top ride and just leave it there. It also puts more emphasis on their favorite ride when a CiC sees it listed as their dedicated ride and listed in their current preference.
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stampf -- whenever I get around to cleaning up my code, that should be fixed. For security reasons, I protect all input from the users/forms, but I don't always remember to strip slashes when I display that information. I've just been lazy -- no one's really cared enough to post a complaint. :)
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lol Just sent you a PM and you already replied. :)
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Thank you Gentlemen.
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It is a static piece of information. This way a squad can list their top ride and just leave it there. It also puts more emphasis on their favorite ride when a CiC sees it listed as their dedicated ride and listed in their current preference.
I see what your saying. Go ahead and list the 412th as P-51B/D. :salute
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Like the effort you guys are doing on this part. Some of us ,353rd FG, have been frustrated of not getting the rides that we should get. there has been one event that we did get our historic sqa ride in al three frames. It worked great.
One think i like to bring to attention. When we request out ride, there are some cases that a sqa asked for spit, pony and 47 but end up flying axis. what are you to do on this part.
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Like the effort you guys are doing on this part. Some of us ,353rd FG, have been frustrated of not getting the rides that we should get. there has been one event that we did get our historic sqa ride in al three frames. It worked great.
One think i like to bring to attention. When we request out ride, there are some cases that a sqa asked for spit, pony and 47 but end up flying axis. what are you to do on this part.
What we're doing here in no way guarantees you access to your historic ride every time they're available. Furthermore, just because you ask for Allied doesn't mean you'll get it. For most FSOs, there are more squads that request Allies than Axis, so the Admin CM has to assign some squads that requested Allied to the Axis side to make the numbers balance. If you've flown Allies more than once in the last 2 months, you're going to be part of the squads that initially get looked at to fill in the Axis numbers. The recommended technique is to swap back and forth between Allied and Axis every month, that way when a setup comes along that does include your dedicated ride, you can request Allies and have a pretty good chance to get an Allied slot.
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Done Nef. :salute
Oakranger what Stoney said.
There is absolutely no guarantees on rides or sides. All we doing is making the information of a dedicated ride available, if not obvious to a CiC. What they do with that information is up to them. Most will try to put squads in their preferred ride, or now a dedicated ride, but if they don't or can't, life goes on.
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Done Nef. :salute
Oakranger what Stoney said.
There is absolutely no guarantees on rides or sides. All we doing is making the information of a dedicated ride available, if not obvious to a CiC. What they do with that information is up to them. Most will try to put squads in their preferred ride, or now a dedicated ride, but if they don't or can't, life goes on.
So why bother? No reason to set preferences or attempt to secure the rides that the squadron flew historically. Why bother with historical names.
We are not limited to flying, as a group, what the 353rd FG flew historically (I think we may have had our historical A/C twice since the formation of the group) but consideration should be given to squads that make an attempt at historical representation.
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Some CICs actually take into consideration what a Historical squad flew if they know what they flew. I like it.
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Done Nef. :salute
Oakranger what Stoney said.
There is absolutely no guarantees on rides or sides. All we doing is making the information of a dedicated ride available, if not obvious to a CiC. What they do with that information is up to them. Most will try to put squads in their preferred ride, or now a dedicated ride, but if they don't or can't, life goes on.
OK, so some of the sqas (JG2, 11 and any other LW sqa) will have the ride when axis in European. Not much of a selection when they fly 109, 190, 110 so on. But you have groups like 353rd, who is a P-51/P-47 sqa, will have to to fly what is given to them with a wider selection of A/C if they fly allies. What i trying to say, if 353rd FG is assigned B-24 when p-51 and p-47 available. 353rd will most likely fail with bomber because we don't fly them. Most ppl in the sqa don't fly them. As a sqa, we will not met our objective and hurt allies chance in winning the framed.
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You lost me Jax. First you said.
So why bother? No reason to set preferences or attempt to secure the rides that the squadron flew historically. Why bother with historical names.
Then you said.
...but consideration should be given to squads that make an attempt at historical representation.
I am bothering with this because it gives a CiC just that much more information that may help a squad to get their 'historical' ride. It is the consideration that you and others are asking for.
Again, (and I have said this several times in this thread) if you don't want to list a ride, don't. For you then nothing would change. If you liked it the way it was then don't list a dedicated ride.
OK, so some of the sqas (JG2, 11 and any other LW sqa) will have the ride when axis in European. Not much of a selection when they fly 109, 190, 110 so on. But you have groups like 353rd, who is a P-51/P-47 sqa, will have to to fly what is given to them with a wider selection of A/C if they fly allies. What i trying to say, if 353rd FG is assigned B-24 when p-51 and p-47 available. 353rd will most likely fail with bomber because we don't fly them. Most ppl in the sqa don't fly them. As a sqa, we will not met our objective and hurt allies chance in winning the framed.
Oak, I can't do anything about a squads selection. We work with what HTC develops.
If a squad is assigned B-24's and they are a P-51 squad they are expected to do the best they can. Just the way it has been for the past 8 years. Yes it would be better if they were assigned P-51's, but that is the call of the CiC. Maybe he had little choice and needed to do it that way. No telling.
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for myself...thanks!
I joined the jolly rogers because of what I saw in the ma and because they flew the corsair. It's good to know that we may be up in corsairs on fso nights.
Hell, i'll fly anything, i just like fso's....but really...is there a cooler plane then the corsair?
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I understand daddog. I am sure it is a consent compliant you guys get all the time. I am please that the ACMs are make effort of new events and making new maps. You guys are doing a great job with FSO. However, the ride assignments is one area that i get frustrated when given rides we didn't even requested.
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read the whole post and understand what your doing, but do have a few things on it.
Understand the CiC still is the assigner of aircraft, but I would think that with the listing for this they will most likely utilize it when the aircraft come available. (Not speaking for them, just thinking they would)
There are times when "limited" high end rides are in play, does the same squad get them for 3 frames when it fits their historical ride?
Scenerios utilizing alot of buffs, if they go by this doesn't that put many of the other squads on 3 frame buff duty?
Understand that these matchups may not come up alot, but with some scenerios types of aircraft choices are limited so there might be some small chance as an example that axis luftwaffe or Pacific american could go as high as 50% historically assigned. Would this be rotated each frame or is this meant to be a 3 frame assignment?
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OK, so some of the sqas (JG2, 11 and any other LW sqa) will have the ride when axis in European. Not much of a selection when they fly 109, 190, 110 so on. But you have groups like 353rd, who is a P-51/P-47 sqa, will have to to fly what is given to them with a wider selection of A/C if they fly allies. What i trying to say, if 353rd FG is assigned B-24 when p-51 and p-47 available. 353rd will most likely fail with bomber because we don't fly them. Most ppl in the sqa don't fly them. As a sqa, we will not met our objective and hurt allies chance in winning the framed.
Not correct,
Last European set up, JG11 requested Fw190 A5, Fw190 A8, and Bf109 G6.
We were assigned respectively. Bf 109 G2, Bf 109 F4, and Ju 88.
So no, European based Axis units are not guaranteed anything, nor is anyone.
I don't think some people here are understanding this concept. It is simply a guide, an extra bit of info about the squads, nothing more. It remains the CIC's responsibility to assign squads into aircraft based on request, past recent assignments, and the best allocation of forces, in order to get the job done and win the day. Nothing different there.
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I don't think some people here are understanding this concept. It is simply a guide, an extra bit of info about the squads, nothing more. It remains the CIC's responsibility to assign squads into aircraft based on request, past recent assignments, and the best allocation of forces, in order to get the job done and win the day. Nothing different there.
Well said.
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As already said but worth repeating, the CiC of a side assigns aircraft. A "dedicated ride" listing or the "frame ride preference" listing does not guarantee you any ride.
So what does it do?
It tries to provide a CiC with information about an individual squad so that he can better define his battle plans. In the case of a dedicated ride he might see that say some squad has list the P-47 as their dedicated ride. Which probably means they are really good in it since they specialize in it. So logically a CiC would probably want to tend to put a strong that specializes flying the P-47 in P-47s when he gets a chance.
A frame ride preference just indicates that for this FSO that you would like to fly x, y, and z but is not an indication to a CiC if you have any special capability in that plane type. A dedicated ride indicates a specialization or focus.
Now also remember that a CiC has to usually assign 20 squads to tasks so even with both of these preference types listed he might still have to task you into another plane type. In addition we CMs do try to remind CiCs to try to make sure that nobody gets stuck flying somethings multiple times in a row (its why in my objectives I list the previous rides for squads). So that for instance that you pull bomber duty all three frames or fly all the best fighters all 3 frames. But hopefully the information of the "dedicated ride" will provide the CiC with information that should increase your odds of getting that ride for 1 frame out of 3 (when applicable).
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Ya he put that well Ratt.
What Stampf said.
I don't think some people here are understanding this concept. It is simply a guide, an extra bit of info about the squads, nothing more. It remains the CIC's responsibility to assign squads into aircraft based on request, past recent assignments, and the best allocation of forces, in order to get the job done and win the day. Nothing different there.
:aok
I think I will save that to my clipboard and just copy and paste for pages 6, 7, 8, and 9. ;)
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Still have a percentage of squads not even filling in their (frame ride pref's).
Perhaps the squads that a have a (deticated ride) or historical ride request, could just do this.
Example;
Frame 1 = Spit VIII (dedicated)
Frame 2 = B24's
Frame 3 = Anything to help..
When i type my cic orders I look at the ride prefs and their previous frame rides. Try my best to get them in the ride they want or one closest.
However, I have a hard time letting a squad fly all fighters of their choice in every frame. Just my opinion.. tuk151
13Th MPG favorite ride= All
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Not correct,
Last European set up, JG11 requested Fw190 A5, Fw190 A8, and Bf109 G6.
We were assigned respectively. Bf 109 G2, Bf 109 F4, and Ju 88.
So no, European based Axis units are not guaranteed anything, nor is anyone.
I don't think anybody is asking for a guarantee. I know I wasn't when I approached Daddog with this idea. I was just asking for a tool so CIC's could give it consideration.
If you were assigned a 109G2 or 109F instead of a 109G6 I still see that as positive. Just like I would if we asked for the F4U-1A and or the Hellcat and were assigned the F4U-1... Close enough we'll take it and thanks! If it's not our historical bird in a setup... I'll pretty much fly anything, that's the way it is with FSOs especially if your aircraft isn't a constant for most FSOs as some aircraft are. If our historical bird is in setup.. Yeah I'd like us to be give some consideration, at least put some effort into it anyway. Also if we were assigned say P-51s during an ETO and the 353rd was in P-38s, or something else and not getting a shot at their historic ride... Just PM us, I'd gladly make room for guys to get a shot at their squads historic ride and arrange a swap if the CIC was willing. If the Navy birds are not there I'm pretty much game for any bird and like to see other people get their squads historic or signature bird. Stampf if you guys went months without seeing 109s or 190s in a setup but instead saw months of Hellcats and Corsairs. Then when you did finally get your birds in a setup, you might get a bit miffed too if you were not assigned the German fighters while a US Navy squad was in the 109s or 190s. Guarantees...No. Consideration... Yes. :aok
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Shifty,
Something in my reply to Oaktree's post lead you to believe I was against this idea? I love it, and agree wholeheartedly about consideration. In fact, we as a squad discussed prior ro requesting Allies this operation, that we would switch sides with any USN squad that got assigned Axis. When JG11 came to FSO, the CM's, and player base at the time were all like, "WooHoo, finally a dedicated Axis unit", as DD mentioned, most side requests are heavy on the Allied side and light on the Axis. We generally request Axis in the Pacific for just this reason as well, so as to show fairness and continuity in our Axis status, even though most of the squad prefers PTO Allied over IJN anyday of the week. I can tell you personally that in 72 FSO sorties, I have flown the Corsair once, and the Hellcat three times. That's it.
It's difficult enough to make sense of some of these posts, and my sole purpose was to demonstrate that no unit, Axis or Allies is guaranteed anything, nor does any unit Axis or Allies get there favorite ride regardless of theatre, contrary to Oak's statement about Luftwaffe rides. I fail to see the similarity he asserts between the Bf110, and/or JU88, compared to the 109 and 190, other than country of deployment. And I was not complaining about our assigned rides in Husky either, just demonstrating to Oak that in three frames, we did not get the ride we hoped (requested) for. None of the three assignments were seen as a negative by us, and we endeavored to perform our mission to our best like every week. Certainly we have never complained about any assignment, nor would we, as long as how you say it, the CiC's show some consideration, and at least some effort or evidence of forethought in distributing ride assignments and role assignments as fairly as possible within the given constraints of the Operation and participants.
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Shifty,
Something in my reply to Oaktree's post lead you to believe I was against this idea?
Not at all, I just wanted you to write me. :D
Seriously I wasn't looking at it as if you disagreed at all. I was just making sure this little bug I put in Dadog's ear was seen for what it was. A request for consideration not a demand of any stripe. I just replied and used your example of plane assignements and ended up talking to you in the thread. My bad. Stuff like this is going to make the FSO better in some regards but at the same time it requires give and take, and in some cases a little extra time for folks who happen to be in the CIC barrel. Seriously though I'm all for helping squads get their historic or signature ride. All squads not just the one I'm in.
<S> Dave.
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Not at all, I just wanted you to write me. :D
:lol You never call anymore... :(
Clear as crystal on all the rest.
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I am bothering with this because it gives a CiC just that much more information that may help a squad to get their 'historical' ride. It is the consideration that you and others are asking for.
I apologize if I made it sound like I don't think this is a good idea because I do. Our past success at getting what we request hasn't been the greatest.
There are other factors that contribute to squadrons not getting a "historical ride" or their requested ride or side that I'm well aware of and I hope that your efforts make a difference. :salute
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One plane. Listing an F4U, P-38, P-51, P-47 would cover all the bases for that type.
Texast I don’t see a 316th squad listed.
Mighty 316th, sorry, we dont feel as mighty lately so I forget it from time to time :confused: