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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Tmac7 on July 23, 2009, 04:25:16 PM
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I'm looking to major in ether something with becoming and electrician or something to do with computers. I'm not so good with computer programming, I took a course in Highschool and got a C+. I got an A in web design and i'm taking a computer maintienance class.
Whats popular with computers right now, for jobs?
What schools in Massachusetts close to boston have classes to get your electricians license?
Thanks,
-Tmacc73
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Try and meet up with a Union Local and ask them a way to get an Apprenticeship. They'll in even guide you through courses.
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your best bet is to get a job with a game or computer company for technically support and so forth
-BigBOBCH
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Web design is an ever-growing industry. However, I wouldn't get into it to sell my work but instead to build my own online, "playgrounds" while selling advertising in the process.
Computer programming is the next closest field. Computer programming is like the American market. You can sell almost anything. Come up with a clever idea, market it, and see what happens. You never know if your product will become the next craze.
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From my perspective (I work in IT in the UK) - security is the upcoming money maker. I took a course on ethical hacking (security checking etc) and am currently doing a ccna course - after which I'll be doing ccmp and onwards.
Just my opinion of course, ymmv,
Wurzel
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I think computer security does require some programming knowledge, though. That is if you intend to build defenses not modify what's available to best defend your portion of binary-world.
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If you want to do web design (or graphic design) the field is glutted with the number of 'designers' out there. Pure print graphic design is probably the hardest to find a job in right now, especially if you have no web training. If you want to get into web design, you're very best bet is to learn some programming. Either Javascript, actionscript, flash, PHP, MySQL etc.
Bachelor's degrees in GD will give you a leg up generally. I graduated in '07 with a BA in graphic design and my college internship working at a newspaper art department turned into a full time job. It didn't pay very well but it was a start in the field outside of my freelance work. Then the economy took a down turn, the newspaper laid me and a few other designers off and I spent 6 months trying to get another design job. Had some good promising leads initially but nothing materialized. I did a few side jobs but currently I'm working a sales position.
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I think computer security does require some programming knowledge, though. That is if you intend to build defenses not modify what's available to best defend your portion of binary-world.
True enough Denholm (think our posts got there just about together lol...)
Wurzel
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I'm looking to major in ether something with becoming and electrician or something to do with computers. I'm not so good with computer programming, I took a course in Highschool and got a C+. I got an A in web design and i'm taking a computer maintienance class.
Whats popular with computers right now, for jobs?
What schools in Massachusetts close to boston have classes to get your electricians license?
Thanks,
-Tmacc73
Am I the only one who saw this?
As far as PC related fields, I'd steer from "Programming" and go into Network Administration. The demand is greater.
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Well i'm decent with programming just would take time and frustration. I'm pretty good with HTML, and use Dreamweaver at school.
But i dont wanna major in one thing jut incase something happens i want backup plans
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Well i'm decent with programming just would take time and frustration. I'm pretty good with HTML, and use Dreamweaver at school.
But i dont wanna major in one thing jut incase something happens i want backup plans
Major in Network Administration and Minor in Programming. With NA, you're gonna work the fringes of Programming anyways. Kill two birds with one stone.
My two cents.
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While I cant help you with your major choice......
I can help with your college find. I used his when I was in high school in the early weeks of my senior year 2 years ago until I started getting recruited to find an idea in colleges around me.
http://www.collegeboard.com/student/csearch/
The schools in Mass that I would figure be useful since I did look at them were WPI and MIT not for computers but for bio/pre-med. Those are both big engineering and computer schools. You could also go for the obvious big schools such as UMass, Tufts, BU, BC, and Harvard.
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i found a vocational school. http://www.petersonschool.com/Electrical_Basic.htm
From basic electrician's classes to Masters classes its 20 months and about 13,000$
Then after i was all set with that while working and settling down with a job after that training i was going to take night schools for Web Design and computer programming.
-Tmac
Only reason i made this topic is because no one in my family has been to college.
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Do something useful...try to be a dentist...those guys make killer money and when the SHTF in a couple of years people without medical/dental care will need all the help they can get and you will make out like a wild man...people will be paying you in whatever currency you deem worthy and will fight to protect you...at least they would if you got out of the NE and went to where people can protect you.
Seriously if you want to get into the electrician field one of the best ideas here was to go to a local and talk with someone there. As much as I hate unions they can steer you into the right direction in the beginning. Just don't sell your soul to the devil by hooking up with them unless you absolutely have to.
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Do something useful...try to be a dentist...those guys make killer money and when the SHTF in a couple of years people without medical/dental care will need all the help they can get and you will make out like a wild man...people will be paying you in whatever currency you deem worthy and will fight to protect you...at least they would if you got out of the NE and went to where people can protect you.
Dentists also have the highest suicidal rate of any job....
I myself am choosing medical...
But if hes going into electrician...nothing wrong with it always need electrical work somewhere.
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Web design is a good field to go into, it's probably what I'll go into as that's what I like to do.
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Dentists also have the highest suicidal rate of any job....
I myself am choosing medical...
But if hes going into electrician...nothing wrong with it always need electrical work somewhere.
Come to Michigan almost 1/2 of all Union Electrician's are Unemployed. Wyoming took about about an 1/8th of those without a job. Skilled trades are suffering. Housing Market killed more Electrician jobs, more than the Manufacturing Industry.
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Have you looked at the military? The Coast Guard is currently offering big bonuses to Electrician's Mates and Electronics Technicians and will be for the foreseeable future.
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Have you looked at the military? The Coast Guard is currently offering big bonuses to Electrician's Mates and Electronics Technicians and will be for the foreseeable future.
Smart choice as well.
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Have you looked at the military? The Coast Guard is currently offering big bonuses to Electrician's Mates and Electronics Technicians and will be for the foreseeable future.
Yes I have looked into it. If I don't finish up with classes to become an electrician or web design I wanted Plan B to join the US Marines.
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Web design is a good field to go into, it's probably what I'll go into as that's what I like to do.
disagree here, for years almost everyone with a PC and a bootleg copy of photoshop thinks they're a "web designer" so the market is awash with mediocre talent. add better and simpler tools (wordpress etc) and its not a growing market, except for specialists. good graphic designers otoh can always get work, programmers the same. people who are average at both will have trouble. other specialist fields like networking, security, database etc are a better bet - more effort to get into but way more lucrative.
if you want to make money the trades are still a great bet - I know plumbers and sparkys who make alot more than guys working in softer IT fields, less BS too :aok
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Yeah and to become and electrician its 20 months of classes well thats if i wanna go from basics to master, Which i want to do.
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Tmac7 Electrician and Electronics Tech are closely related, but different paths of this school.
Electrician generally focuses on higher voltages, housing and building construction.
Electronics is focused more on resistors, microcircuits, computers, etc.
Check out the schools you are looking at. Make sure that you are studying for what you want to do.
I have an AS in Electronic Eng Technology, and a AAS in Applied Electronics. Neither one gave me any prep for House wiring, except in the most basic terms. (Wall plugs, lights etc.)
A degree as a Electrician would give you no Programming or web design schooling.
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A degree as a Electrician would give you no Programming or web design schooling.
Oh i know that i mean to go to school for that after I finish with my courses in becoming an electrician
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Honestly You may change your mind the closer you get to collage.
I have changed my mind about 3 times from highschool into what i would do.
It is for the most part is good paying and you have the advantage of going a lot of ways in it.
Bad side for some is the commitment you end up having doing it at most places I have found.
You get to be the one getting called all hours of the night, Or working all night for a week to finish a project. You also will have constant learning. It is not a field you learn once and can reuse forever. Looking around at the places I have worked. You don’t really see many older IT people…
Most places it is broken out into 2-3 different kind of fields.
Programmers, Hardware guys , Phone guys. All of them Blend a little But each one is pretty different in how they work.
If you are going to collage you are going to end up starting at the bottom somewhere. Normally in a helpdesk or entry level programming gig.
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Well we'll see, and i'm going to have to work hard because no later then 19 am i staying home living with my mom. Probably if still with my girlfriend maybe rent an apartment..if not then get some friends and do that. I just want a job with trade and because I have the born skills of an electrician my dad is one(not that i've had any help from him since hes not in my life lol) but he still has skills so i should have some of those in my genes also hes a construction worker along with all my uncles so I have ways of getting jobs in big companies that they work at.
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Why not go to college during the regular term, spend summer apprenticing electrical? First two years of a 4-year Bachelor's degree are pretty much generic anyway.
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I come from a poor family, so its cheaper this way. But heres the other thing i'm really good at football so theres a chance i'll get a scholarship to a school if i keep on being good at football and stay on the honor roll.
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I come from a poor family, so its cheaper this way. But heres the other thing i'm really good at football so theres a chance i'll get a scholarship to a school if i keep on being good at football and stay on the honor roll.
Well dont forget though, you want to go to a school where you will learn easily and you fit in. I gave up some D-1 scholarships to go to a smaller school because in my case I cant learn in a really large school and classes with a minimum size of 100. Unless you think you are going to go to the NFL football should not be a priority which in my case another reason I chose a smaller school. Teachers also know you personally as well.
I myself would recommend a D2 or smaller as even D3 schools have a ton of financial aid that they give as well. Im going to a 40k school and paying only 5k to go for the year. There are a lot of things out there to help pay school as well, dont underestimate the financial aid a school will give as even D3 schools give a lot. It all depends on your FAFSA and the more needy you are the more the school will give you.
Remember that D1 schools also basically have size requirements and speed requirements. An example is not wanting a RB running slower than a 4.5 or a linemen under 6"2 and 280lbs. It depends a lot on your position on the type of requirements that they look for so honestly dont think football will get you a scholarship unless you are an All-State athlete putting up serious numbers.
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YEah i probably won't get a scholarship because i'm alinebacker 6' 175lbs but lots of muscle just can't seem to gain weight
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Lots of other good responses... I'd go with networking. But I'd try to stay away from generic IT services and focus on hard-core network stuff.
As for finding an employer, if you are considering public service, look into the coast guard. Knowing what I know now, if I had to go back to when I was a HS grad and if I hadn't gotten into the USAF academy, I think the coast guard would have been a great choice.
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YEah i probably won't get a scholarship because i'm alinebacker 6' 175lbs but lots of muscle just can't seem to gain weight
Yea...sorry to say this...but thats really small. The smallest LB at my school is 6'0 220.
If you gained a little and fast maybe OLB but definitely not a MLB scholarship type.
Strength wise, here is an idea by the LB's at my school. Weakest is benching for 225 rep at least 12 reps and squat max is around 420 full squat not flexion squat.
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my full squad max is 410lbs. When you hear my stats like that I look small. Might start lying about my weight cause i hit much harder then i a 175 lb player should :P . ALso i run my 40 yd in 4.8
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It's all a crap shoot dood when it comes to 'a job'..
.. goin to college is all about learning something you *want* to.
The counselors there can give you a list of classes you need to fill all the squares,
..but you have to decide what you like to do.
If you cant decide, write down a list of pro's an cons of each thing you like to do.
It helps you think about each and clarify which is more appealing to you.
Once you have an idea, get all your ducks in a row and GO for it.
It works.
-GE
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my full squad max is 410lbs. When you hear my stats like that I look small. Might start lying about my weight cause i hit much harder then i a 175 lb player should :P . ALso i run my 40 yd in 4.8
bring your 40 up, weight will come, try protein and creatien and stay on the weights. The game of football is getting faster each year. D2 or D3 schools love fast linebackers because thats where the game is at.
Example. One of my favorite coaches, Butch Davis at North Carolina, when he recruits for defense. His linebackers move to Defensive ends(most of the time) and his end move to Defensive tackles. He takes big fast safetys and put then at OLBS. Look at Marvin Austin(DT) hes like 6-3 315 and runs a 4.6, speed is the game.
I start on my high school football(as of right now :D), Im only 5'8 210 and play center, but I squat 500, bench 300, and dead 500. and Im only a sophomore. I know Im going to grow taller because the rest of my family were the same way. Im hoping to get to 6'1 or 6'2 because I can go D1 at that height.
If you want to talk football, just send a pm and we can chat.
Fud
PS. 6'1 175 is good size for a dog in 3-3-5 defense.
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I start on my high school football(as of right now :D), Im only 5'8 210 and play center, but I squat 500, bench 300, and dead 500. and Im only a sophomore. I know Im going to grow taller because the rest of my family were the same way. Im hoping to get to 6'1 or 6'2 because I can go D1 at that height.
Well at the weight you wont be playing center at the D1 level. Im playing at a D3 school and our smallest starting OL is 280. The rest of your family also doesnt ntecessarily mean anything as no one in my family is above 5'6" and Im at 6'1". You will also see that what you think is a full squat is different from what colleges see. The coaches practically want your butt touching the floor to be considered a squat.
You will also see that these D1 linemen are also a hell of a lot stronger bench repping at least 350.
Ive gone through all of this process and play collegiate football so your welcome to PM me as well. But honestly, if you are not going to enjoy the school dont go there because of an athletic scholarship. Yea they are you giving you a scholarship but there are other ways to pay for school. Unless you are definitely going to go to the NFL or even have a chance which many people dont, only 1% of all collegiate football players will go to the NFL, then dont be relying on football. Education is still the priority which is one reason I preferred to go to a D3 school where even coaches know that education is more important. I had scholarships to go to D2 and D1 schools but in those situations not so much D2 but D1 the coaches want the wins and the school wants the wins because it gets them money if they win bowl games etc. The coaches dont always necessarily want you to take hard majors either. Look at the half of the kids at the top football schools such as Florida, USC, Ohio State, most of them are taking easy majors such as nutrition or physical education. The only real exception to the typical "football school" is Penn State where they want at least 3.0 or 3.3 not sure which it is to play. Most school require only a 2.0 to play.
Just remember unless you are a standout athlete and are going to the NFL like a Tim Tebow then dont go just because you are going to be on athletic scholarship. It is a lot harder to be a collegiate athlete than it is in high school. The work load in college is a lot harder and you have to have very very very good time management to do both. Being on the road and away from school makes it hard and being able to handle practices which will wear you out very quickly and managing to do your homework is difficult. When you graduate, remember, employers would rather have someone with a 3.5 than someone with a 2.2 who played football.
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Well at the weight you wont be playing center at the D1 level. Im playing at a D3 school and our smallest starting OL is 280. The rest of your family also doesnt ntecessarily mean anything as no one in my family is above 5'6" and Im at 6'1". You will also see that what you think is a full squat is different from what colleges see. The coaches practically want your butt touching the floor to be considered a squat.
You will also see that these D1 linemen are also a hell of a lot stronger bench repping at least 350.
Ive gone through all of this process and play collegiate football so your welcome to PM me as well. But honestly, if you are not going to enjoy the school dont go there because of an athletic scholarship. Yea they are you giving you a scholarship but there are other ways to pay for school. Unless you are definitely going to go to the NFL or even have a chance which many people dont, only 1% of all collegiate football players will go to the NFL, then dont be relying on football. Education is still the priority which is one reason I preferred to go to a D3 school where even coaches know that education is more important. I had scholarships to go to D2 and D1 schools but in those situations not so much D2 but D1 the coaches want the wins and the school wants the wins because it gets them money if they win bowl games etc. The coaches dont always necessarily want you to take hard majors either. Look at the half of the kids at the top football schools such as Florida, USC, Ohio State, most of them are taking easy majors such as nutrition or physical education. The only real exception to the typical "football school" is Penn State where they want at least 3.0 or 3.3 not sure which it is to play. Most school require only a 2.0 to play.
Just remember unless you are a standout athlete and are going to the NFL like a Tim Tebow then dont go just because you are going to be on athletic scholarship. It is a lot harder to be a collegiate athlete than it is in high school. The work load in college is a lot harder and you have to have very very very good time management to do both. Being on the road and away from school makes it hard and being able to handle practices which will wear you out very quickly and managing to do your homework is difficult. When you graduate, remember, employers would rather have someone with a 3.5 than someone with a 2.2 who played football.
Like I said, Im just going in as sophomore in High school and got alot of growing to do. The school I play at has had 20+ players go play college ball with 10 of them played D1, and 1 in the NFL atm. D1 doesn't mean Ohio State, USC, Penn State etc. D1 is schools as small as Georgetown App State etc.
I am a competitive weight lifter, so yes I have done "butt" touching squats. Did 400 in a competition and I know I could've done more. I don't think I'll go to the NFL but I am setting my goals high to play D1 ball or any college ball for that matter.
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Like I said, Im just going in as sophomore in High school and got alot of growing to do. The school I play at has had 20+ players go play college ball with 10 of them played D1, and 1 in the NFL atm. D1 doesn't mean Ohio State, USC, Penn State etc. D1 is schools as small as Georgetown App State etc.
I am a competitive weight lifter, so yes I have done "butt" touching squats. Did 400 in a competition and I know I could've done more. I don't think I'll go to the NFL but I am setting my goals high to play D1 ball or any college ball for that matter.
I dont know how many from my school has gone on to play college ball but the big name out of my school is Bill Romanowski and everyone who followed football in the 90s know who he is lol.
Im just saying that playing collegiate ball is very hard and even I am finding it hard but I find the challenge makes me work as I am a bio/pre-med major. I know that you dont have to go to a big D1 school as I was recruited by smaller D1-AA schools but they still want the wins on their school and education really isnt a priority for their athletes.
Just make sure you go to a school where you can learn. Larger schools arent the same as smaller schools such as the D2 and D3 as teacher will actually know you personally with classes rarely larger than 20 and will learn your strengths and weaknesses.
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I dont know how many from my school has gone on to play college ball but the big name out of my school is Bill Romanowski and everyone who followed football in the 90s know who he is lol.
Im just saying that playing collegiate ball is very hard and even I am finding it hard but I find the challenge makes me work as I am a bio/pre-med major. I know that you dont have to go to a big D1 school as I was recruited by smaller D1-AA schools but they still want the wins on their school and education really isnt a priority for their athletes.
Just make sure you go to a school where you can learn. Larger schools arent the same as smaller schools such as the D2 and D3 as teacher will actually know you personally with classes rarely larger than 20 and will learn your strengths and weaknesses.
Also schools are less patient with coaches, even High school level. Its very rare to see coaches stay more than 5 years because ADs and boosters want wins and they want them immediately
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Computer security is hot hot hot. Almost can ask your own wage.