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Title: Night in AH
Post by: mia389 on July 25, 2009, 10:57:59 AM
Anyone miss the night? We had it lastnight in FSO and it looked great! Cockpit lighting was really cool to. It looked so much better than it used to back when we used to have it. It was very nice treat to see the lighting detail.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: DaveJ on July 25, 2009, 11:00:07 AM
Night definitely needs to be brought back in ASAP.

I am sick of this Utopian "perma-noon"  setting every time I log into AH.


Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: Strip on July 25, 2009, 11:09:03 AM
For even 1 day a week? I have to deal with Titanic Tuesday....which I hate. Why cant they deal with night/day cycle for a day?
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: A8TOOL on July 25, 2009, 11:11:10 AM
It looked so much better than it used to back when we used to have it. It was very nice treat to see the lighting detail.

Any screen shots?

I remember night... lots of people hated it. Not sure how they can improve on night but I'd like to see how the CM's set this one up if it's really that special... hehe
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: moot on July 25, 2009, 11:18:23 AM
Night's changed since the old days, it seems.  The sky used to be pitch black, now it's dark blue.  Might be the gfx cards/monitors now vs then.  What's certain is that clouds aren't dark as they used to be.  They now glow white.  Or at least I haven't found how to make them as dark as they used to be.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: Bosco123 on July 25, 2009, 11:23:45 AM
I hate the "Evening" now in AH, can't see anything, have to turn the Gamma all the way up, and still not being able to hit anything anyways. Not me, I wouldn't care if it comes back.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: mia389 on July 25, 2009, 11:27:27 AM
I will get some screen shots posted soon


(http://www2.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/5b8d4a9c49d9b1f358d6881508badaa06g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=k5zkwgmjyym&thumb=4)
without cockpit light on

(http://www4.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/d129ae9caa7e2a43edc092538c132db96g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=mhmotqnyzmm&thumb=4)
with cockpit light on
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: Anaxogoras on July 25, 2009, 11:30:15 AM
I'm not a fan of fighting in the dark.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: TequilaChaser on July 25, 2009, 11:37:45 AM
I hate the "Evening" now in AH, can't see anything, have to turn the Gamma all the way up, and still not being able to hit anything anyways. Not me, I wouldn't care if it comes back.

you aren't one of those who game the game, are ya?   :D
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: The Fugitive on July 25, 2009, 11:53:23 AM
There was a big discussion about bringing night back. I forget who started the thread, the OP was pushing for a separate arena even, but HT finally stepped in and said no way, no how.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: mike254 on July 25, 2009, 11:54:23 AM
I would love to see night in the MA's. The only problem that I can see is that for the people who don't live in the North America and South America, the day and night cycle would be messed up for them. They would be logging in during the day, having to play night in a night time setting. Until they find a solution for that I don't think we are going to get night.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: Sunka on July 25, 2009, 11:58:35 AM
There was a big discussion about bringing night back. I forget who started the thread, the OP was pushing for a separate arena even, but HT finally stepped in and said no way, no how.
Do you know why he said no how no way?
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: RipChord929 on July 25, 2009, 11:59:04 AM
I think it would be great... But only 2hrs for every 24hr cycle... And rotating 2hrs every 24hr cycle...
That way it would shift a little every day, so certain ppl who play at certain hrs wouldnt be "Stuck with it"...
But everyone would get a taste of it too...  Different=Good... At least for me...

RC
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: mia389 on July 25, 2009, 12:06:02 PM
how do you take screen shots from film viewer?
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: A8TOOL on July 25, 2009, 12:13:48 PM
I would love to see night in the MA's. The only problem that I can see is that for the people who don't live in the North America and South America, the day and night cycle would be messed up for them. They would be logging in during the day, having to play night in a night time setting. Until they find a solution for that I don't think we are going to get night.


HUH??  :huh

Not sure what ya meant there........you might be confused as to how ti works here.

A couple months back i wanted the game clock to represent any American time.. hehehe  lol  (http://thesquad.forumotion.net/users/a9/77/24/39/smiles/729895.gif)  

I momentarily confused the hell outta myself thinking the game ran on actual time. Truth is, the games clock represents the position of the sun while in game. The clock also runs much faster than real world time allowing Multiple game days to pass in a real 24 hour period....not sure exactly how many per day.

Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: BaldEagl on July 25, 2009, 12:21:51 PM
I would love to see night in the MA's. The only problem that I can see is that for the people who don't live in the North America and South America, the day and night cycle would be messed up for them. They would be logging in during the day, having to play night in a night time setting. Until they find a solution for that I don't think we are going to get night.

When we had night before about every 4 hours or so it would start to get dark and progress from day to night to day again over about an hours time.  Then 4 hours of daylight before the cycle began again.

The in-game clock doesn't correspond to a real clock.  It runs much faster.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: TequilaChaser on July 25, 2009, 12:22:30 PM
how do you take screen shots from film viewer?


most use the print screen key, then paste into MSpaint or some graphic editing program
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: mia389 on July 25, 2009, 12:26:52 PM
most use the print screen key, then paste into MSpaint or some graphic editing program


Thats what I did for the pictures above but it seemed quality was not as good as when in the film viewer. Oh well. Maybe I will post short film.

Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: mia389 on July 25, 2009, 12:58:45 PM
no film. Way to large using fraps. Compressed to RAR was 360mb. Sorry
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: Helm on July 25, 2009, 02:52:30 PM
I vote yes!



Helm ...out
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: jdbecks on July 25, 2009, 02:55:32 PM
yeah I agree it was great to fly in the dark, I think it would add more to the immersion of the game rather than dusk till dawn with no night.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: Nemisis on July 25, 2009, 03:07:04 PM
Night definitely needs to be brought back in ASAP.


Ya, then you have the problem of night bombing and it gets REALLY fun for the gv guys!!!


Ha, I laugh at you as my bombs wreak havoc among your all green shermans among our all green background.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: gyrene81 on July 25, 2009, 03:48:04 PM
how do you take screen shots from film viewer?

I use a nifty little program called printkey...you can edit...adjust...crop...etc and all you have to do is hit the print screen key. Supports multiple graphics formats, even has a self timer so it takes screenshots continuously if you want.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: The Fugitive on July 25, 2009, 03:53:15 PM
Do you know why he said no how no way?

I don't remember "why" exactly, but it had to do with keeping the game playable. Lots of people logged off when it was night. When your selling a product and people "can't" play because they can't see its not good for business. Also, lots of people would just turn up the gamma and negate it anyway. Very few people liked it. Only time you'll see night is in events now.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: Steve on July 25, 2009, 04:15:55 PM
Lots of people logged off when it was night. .

That's all one needs to know
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: chris3 on July 25, 2009, 04:25:52 PM
moin

i miss the night realy in Ah, and i wish we get it back some day.
maybe we can get it in one of the 2 late war arena so everyone choice if he want it or not.

cu chris3
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: mia389 on July 25, 2009, 04:29:31 PM
moin

i miss the night realy in Ah, and i wish we get it back some day.
maybe we can get it in one of the 2 late war arena so everyone choice if he want it or not.

cu chris3

Thats a great idea. Guys could goto other arena if its night and they dont like it. Before we only had one arena, now we have multiple ones.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: Yeager on July 25, 2009, 04:31:46 PM
If you kids are so hot for worthless black inky dark no good night   flying with BRIGHT NEON ICONS   then lets just have HTC set up a inky black night arena for you to play in, and leave the rest of us in PEACE.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: Steve on July 25, 2009, 04:37:17 PM
Thats a great idea. Guys could goto other arena if its night and they dont like it. Before we only had one arena, now we have multiple ones.

Arena caps
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: Steve on July 25, 2009, 04:38:08 PM
If you guys want night so badly, just turn the gamma way down on your monitors.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: opposum on July 25, 2009, 04:51:16 PM
ahhh I posted on accedent, forgive me...
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: Nemisis on July 25, 2009, 05:39:54 PM
If you kids are so hot for worthless black inky dark no good night   flying with BRIGHT NEON ICONS   then lets just have HTC set up a inky black night arena for you to play in, and leave the rest of us in PEACE.


If the icons are so easy to see then you should be able to shoot us down no problem. One of you issues solved.

Because we are not disturbing your peace, you have no complaint. I think the idea of an arena that is permanently day and one that swithces like the real world is a great idea.


And steve, I don't think we would wan't night all the time.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: Scratchman on July 25, 2009, 10:41:09 PM
Heck I'm tired of buring out my eyes with the never ending sun, a lil change of pace would be fun.  :salute
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: Steve on July 25, 2009, 11:17:06 PM


And steve, I don't think we would wan't night all the time.


You can have it on or off any time you want.  Adjust your gamma accordingly... you can have night rifht  now.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: mia389 on July 25, 2009, 11:38:12 PM
You can have it on or off any time you want.  Adjust your gamma accordingly... you can have night rifht  now.

It would not look as good as the games night. I think it really looks good now. I was suprised when I seen it Friday night. Came a long way from what it used to be. Adds a whole new element. Radar would be way more important.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: Enker on July 26, 2009, 06:59:37 PM
I loved the way it worked on Friday; the moon illuminated the F6Fs plenty well for a squaddie to tangle with them. But yeah, that night sky was beautiful. I swear I could see the big dipper and that snake carrier dude on Saturday during the Scenario.

Picture from Fri.:
(http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo280/Enker_photo/NIghtflying.jpg)
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: MORAY37 on July 26, 2009, 09:12:59 PM
It would not look as good as the games night. I think it really looks good now. I was suprised when I seen it Friday night. Came a long way from what it used to be. Adds a whole new element. Radar would be way more important.

This is what will happen if night were to come back:  People will leave the game, just like they did before, when we HAD night.  Yeah, it would be fun for a bit, but only if others would up and fly like normal. 

What will HAPPEN, like what HAPPENED before, is that a small group of squads will realize that this is the time to run NOE missions for base takes.  Since you can't see more than 1K, these base takes are incredibly simple, since they only need two sets of buffs (or three heavy 110's), a heavy cannon fighter and a goon.  When we had night before, a certain squadron (which will remain nameless) used to take 15 bases or more in an hour, when the arena went to night.  It's literally impossible to stop, since you have to be on top of the goon or attackers to see them, and all they need to do is fly to a dot on a map.  Others will follow, and it becomes a chaotic mess of retards all trying not to fight, like it was before.   Once others get fed up with the impossiblility of stopping these base taker night NOE runs, they leave.  Soon all you have left are the retards, all staying away from each other, taking bases without a shot. 

Wow, that sounds like something I want to relive again.


Besides, any further contemplation of this subject is retarded, as HT has already said plainly that night will never happen again, due to the exact reasons mentioned.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: Clone155 on July 26, 2009, 10:39:35 PM
Wait, the icon range was shortened? Well if so then just leave it as normal so you won't have that problem.

If you are talking about how icons would disappear when NOE, I think they got rid of that a while ago.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: bravoa8 on July 26, 2009, 10:55:00 PM
If you guys want night so badly, just turn the gamma way down on your monitors.
thats kinda strange cause its night for you all the time if you do that and not night for anyone else i think it would be cool to have night plz HT
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: Yeager on July 26, 2009, 10:56:45 PM
thats kinda strange cause its night for you all the time if you do that and not night for anyone else i think it would be cool to have night plz HT
I dont want your night forced on me.  When I have time to play the damned game I want it daylight thanks.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: Stampf on July 26, 2009, 11:05:00 PM
Night in FSO was terrific.  Looked outstanding.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: OOZ662 on July 27, 2009, 02:53:53 AM
Thats what I did for the pictures above but it seemed quality was not as good as when in the film viewer. Oh well. Maybe I will post short film.

That's because you went from raw screen output to a compressed JPEG.

I loved the way it worked on Friday; the moon illuminated the F6Fs plenty well for a squaddie to tangle with them. But yeah, that night sky was beautiful. I swear I could see the big dipper and that snake carrier dude on Saturday during the Scenario.

I'm betting the CMs played around with the lighting settings too. They're what makes the difference.
Also, Aces High has an accurate star map.
Title: Re: Night in AH
Post by: Enker on July 27, 2009, 03:33:34 AM
I'm betting the CMs played around with the lighting settings too. They're what makes the difference.
Also, Aces High has an accurate star map.
Sweeet. I just need a visual headset so I can fly while looking at the stars. In WIDESCREEN!