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Title: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: DMBEAR on July 26, 2009, 06:18:13 PM
6PM on a Sunday...

Orange arena...
(http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp193/dmbear/ahss58-1.jpg)

Blue arena...
(http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp193/dmbear/ahss59.jpg)


I doubt having two unbalanced arenas was the desired effect of arena caps...

Also, I might as well say keep blue open on TT.  What would it hurt?  Seems the guys that despise TT would have an alternative to going to AVA, MW, or EW.

Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Motherland on July 26, 2009, 06:26:26 PM
I don't think it's usually like that... can't say I usually check though, unless people start complaining over country.

If it is actually like that all the time... there's actually a good reason to fly in orange, I guess :lol
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Scratchman on July 26, 2009, 06:27:09 PM
Also, I might as well say keep blue open on TT.  What would it hurt?  Seems the guys that despise TT would have an alternative to going to AVA, MW, or EW.
It's gotten where I hate the hoarde gang fests on TT. This would be a great alternative. +1
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: SlapShot on July 26, 2009, 06:39:41 PM
OH NOES !!!!11 ... the sky is falling ... the sky is falling !!!
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: DMBEAR on July 26, 2009, 06:40:59 PM
OH NOES !!!!11 ... the sky is falling ... the sky is falling !!!

Hardly, but Fanboys must say it anyways. 
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Scratchman on July 26, 2009, 06:44:07 PM
OH NOES !!!!11 ... the sky is falling ... the sky is falling !!!
Yes it's true, the sky is falling, the sky is falling. Oh wait...nope, I was wrong, it's just the mass of bombers with carpet bombs coming for my head, yet again.   :uhoh
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: DMBEAR on July 26, 2009, 06:45:06 PM
I don't think it's usually like that... can't say I usually check though, unless people start complaining over country.

If it is actually like that all the time... there's actually a good reason to fly in orange, I guess :lol

When I posted pics of cap troubles on other threads I was told that it was because caps go into effect at noon, and i was just picking the worst part of the day.  Just thought Id post another time that caps seem to be a hindrance.

At least I can fly an Emil for crazy perkies in one arena, or a 262 for >100 in the other.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Motherland on July 26, 2009, 06:49:15 PM
How did you come to the conclusion that it's the cap's fault? Not saying it's not, I'm just missing the other two to put with two to make four....
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: DMBEAR on July 26, 2009, 06:51:41 PM
How did you come to the conclusion that it's the cap's fault? Not saying it's not, I'm just missing the other two to put with two to make four....

Can any knights get into the orange arena to even things out?  No.

Why?  A cap.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: SlapShot on July 26, 2009, 06:53:06 PM
Hardly, but Fanboys must say it anyways. 

 :rofl
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Motherland on July 26, 2009, 06:54:09 PM
Can any knights get into the orange arena to even things out?  No.

Why?  A cap.
Rooks and bishops can come to blue to even it out, not only evening it out but uncapping orange.
It works both ways...
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: SlapShot on July 26, 2009, 06:54:28 PM
Can any knights get into the orange arena to even things out?  No.

Oh ... the horror.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: DMBEAR on July 26, 2009, 06:58:48 PM
Oh ... the horror.

You have nothing better to add other than to pick off this and that and rata tat tat.  Tell me why my post is illegitamate rather than sprinkling your pixi dust on fragments of the conversation.

I'm not saying fairies are the only ones who have pixidust.  You may be the exception.  :D
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: DMBEAR on July 26, 2009, 07:01:08 PM
Rooks and bishops can come to blue to even it out, not only evening it out but uncapping orange.
It works both ways...

Right.  that'll happen.

How about letting in people that designate knight, but committing them to flying that country for 5 hours as to deny someone that will just go knight to get in then switch?
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: uptown on July 26, 2009, 07:07:33 PM
here's a thought. don't like game play at the time.....log off and go fishing.  :salute
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: SlapShot on July 26, 2009, 07:08:06 PM
You have nothing better to add other than to pick off this and that and rata tat tat.  Tell me why my post is illegitamate rather than sprinkling your pixi dust on fragments of the conversation.

I'm not saying fairies are the only ones who have pixidust.  You may be the exception.  :D

I just posted my weekly update to the "Morpheus" thread ... not sure if you have read that thread, but after writing the post and thinking what Jeff has in front of him as I wrote the post, and then to read this thread, just prompted my response.

Take yourself to a rehab hospital once a week and you just might gain a new perspective on what in life really matters. Your consistent screen shots of moments in time in regards to the "cap" are one of those things in life that in the total picture ... means crap ... along with the fact that it will not change HiTech's mind.

Sorry for the divergence ... carry on ... I'm done.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: StokesAk on July 26, 2009, 07:08:25 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: DMBEAR on July 26, 2009, 07:11:30 PM
I just posted my weekly update to the "Morpheus" thread ... not sure if you have read that thread, but after writing the post and thinking what Jeff has in front of him as I wrote the post, and then to read this thread, just prompted my response.

Take yourself to a rehab hospital once a week and you just might gain a new perspective on what in life really matters. Your consistent screen shots of moments in time in regards to the "cap" are one of those things in life that in the total picture ... means crap ... along with the fact that it will not change HiTech's mind.

Sorry for the divergence ... carry on ... I'm done.

Yes, I have read the thread and posted my support in a post a while back.

That's a classless move on your part.  I'm sorry you would be indecent enough to have brought up something like that to make a point in this thread.

Wow.

I guess we should just close the forum since this is all trivial compared to your current mindset?
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: DMBEAR on July 26, 2009, 07:25:02 PM
here's a thought. don't like game play at the time.....log off and go fishing.  :salute

Guess I chose plan C and decided to go to the forum instead.  However, the fishing is good in here too.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: SlapShot on July 26, 2009, 07:28:59 PM
Yes, I have read the thread and posted my support in a post a while back.

Thats a classless move on your part.  I'm sorry you would be indecent enough to have brought up something like that to make a point in this thread.

Wow.

Classless ... indecent ... your too funny.


Guess you didn't get the point ... the point is ...

SO WHAT !!!

your angst over the "cap" is what is classless and indecent.

Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: DMBEAR on July 26, 2009, 07:33:23 PM
Classless ... indecent ... your too funny.


Guess you didn't get the point ... the point is ...

SO WHAT !!!

your angst over the "cap" is what is classless and indecent.



Thought you rode your moral high horse away.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: BillyD on July 26, 2009, 07:36:36 PM
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/munchkin_2/Beat_Dead_HorseSanitysBlog.jpg)



this horse?

carry on


 :x
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: TonyJoey on July 26, 2009, 07:43:14 PM
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/munchkin_2/Beat_Dead_HorseSanitysBlog.jpg)



this horse?

carry on


 :x

 :lol
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Bosco123 on July 26, 2009, 07:55:37 PM
lol <S> Reiner
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Steve on July 26, 2009, 09:08:03 PM
lol <S> Reiner

Orange arena is target rich for nits... whoo ohoooo!
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: CHAPPY on July 26, 2009, 09:19:53 PM
<<<---------IN :aok
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: The Fugitive on July 26, 2009, 09:29:02 PM
6PM on a Sunday...

I doubt having two unbalanced arenas was the desired effect of arena caps...

Also, I might as well say keep blue open on TT.  What would it hurt?  Seems the guys that despise TT would have an alternative to going to AVA, MW, or EW.



No the desired effect was to have two arenas populated evenly between them selves. In this case it shows that it is working well. We have about 300 people in one LW arena, and 200 in the other. If the cap system was not in effect, we would have 450 in one arena (max cap) and 50 in the other.

HTC would then have 50 people crying about caps this weekend, instead he only has you.

The caps have nothing to do with side balancing, that is what ENY is for. Also just to clarify, ENY isn't there to balance side by forcing people to switch countries, its balances by forcing the country with the superior number to use inferior equipment.

HT has said the cap system is here to stay. Either learn to live with it, or go play WoW.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: DMBEAR on July 26, 2009, 09:44:48 PM
No the desired effect was to have two arenas populated evenly between them selves. In this case it shows that it is working well. We have about 300 people in one LW arena, and 200 in the other. If the cap system was not in effect, we would have 450 in one arena (max cap) and 50 in the other.

HTC would then have 50 people crying about caps this weekend, instead he only has you.

The caps have nothing to do with side balancing, that is what ENY is for. Also just to clarify, ENY isn't there to balance side by forcing people to switch countries, its balances by forcing the country with the superior number to use inferior equipment.

HT has said the cap system is here to stay. Either learn to live with it, or go play WoW.

I've never played Wow, but since you recommend it I assume you have.

I don't care if all the Fanboys come out everytime the current setup is criticized and tell me that I should go visit a rehab center or play Wow.  I don't know why you all get so offended when people state their frustration with a product they pay for.

Fugitive...Is it possible that you could at least acknowledge that the cap is the most influential reason that both arenas are unbalanced?   Also, can you address the issue of letting people into the arena if they commit for a 5 hour period to the side with lower #'s.  Maybe even discuss the validity of opening up Blue On titanic Tuesday so that all of those customers that don't enjoy the large arena wold still have a late war arena to fly in.

I started this thread with no ill will.  That was brought in by others.

Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Vudak on July 27, 2009, 12:38:41 AM

Fugitive...Is it possible that you could at least acknowledge that the cap is the most influential reason that both arenas are unbalanced?


I don't think this is correct.  Maybe once in awhile, if you add up the numbers, but by and large?  No.

Arenas stay unbalanced because that is the way the majority wants them to be.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: 100hooch on July 27, 2009, 01:33:14 AM
I don't care if all the Fanboys come out everytime the current setup is criticized and tell me that I should go visit a rehab center or play Wow.  I don't know why you all get so offended when people state their frustration with a product they pay for.

Fugitive...Is it possible that you could at least acknowledge that the cap is the most influential reason that both arenas are unbalanced?   Also, can you address the issue of letting people into the arena if they commit for a 5 hour period to the side with lower #'s.  Maybe even discuss the validity of opening up Blue On titanic Tuesday so that all of those customers that don't enjoy the large arena wold still have a late war arena to fly in.


I wouldn't say anyone was "offended" that you state your frustration.  We are mostly just sick and tired of hearing your frustration -- yet again.  You have stated your "frustration with a product you pay for" and the suppliers of that product have addressed your frustration  as much as they care to.  So I guess your only recourse is to shut up and live with it, or take your money and go somewhere else.

As for Fugitive, he doesn't owe you an acknowledgement of any kind.  Because, contrary to your belief, your subscription does not put you on the board of directors.

As for your other incessant, on-going, repetitive, tiresome questions, two words answer every single one of them -- MARKETING DECISION!

They made those decisions before you showed up, they still haven't asked your advice, and they will go on making those marketing decisions if you should leave.  And if there is anything else about the game you don't agree with, please remember we didn't ask.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: A8TOOL on July 27, 2009, 01:47:19 AM
Didn't read everything, but this made sense.

Quote
Also, I might as well say keep blue open on TT.  What would it hurt?  Seems the guys that despise TT would have an alternative to going to AVA, MW, or EW.


I hated TT
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: DMBEAR on July 27, 2009, 01:58:19 AM

I wouldn't say anyone was "offended" that you state your frustration.  We are mostly just sick and tired of hearing your frustration -- yet again.  You have stated your "frustration with a product you pay for" and the suppliers of that product have addressed your frustration  as much as they care to.  So I guess your only recourse is to shut up and live with it, or take your money and go somewhere else.

As for Fugitive, he doesn't owe you an acknowledgement of any kind.  Because, contrary to your belief, your subscription does not put you on the board of directors.

As for your other incessant, on-going, repetitive, tiresome questions, two words answer every single one of them -- MARKETING DECISION!

They made those decisions before you showed up, they still haven't asked your advice, and they will go on making those marketing decisions if you should leave.  And if there is anything else about the game you don't agree with, please remember we didn't ask.


Ever heard of Flexible base?  It's a term coined to place a value on a changing consumer opinion.

Black and white went out a long time ago. 

BTW you sound as if you would be relieved if I did leave.  Is that what you think HTC wants? 

Do they want to have you guys asking people to leave?  I love the game.  I dont like caps.  I should leave?
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: DMBEAR on July 27, 2009, 02:17:36 AM

As for Fugitive, he doesn't owe you an acknowledgement of any kind.  Because, contrary to your belief, your subscription does not put you on the board of directors.

I asked if it was possible.  I didnt say he owed me anything. 

Now ya'll are saying that my belief is that I am on the Board of directors.  :huh  Where did you get that?


Where have all the meds gone?
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: 100hooch on July 27, 2009, 02:29:30 AM
Oh, you poor, poor victim.

If you truly gave a damn about the development or improvement of the game, you would send a detailed letter to HTC and the developers illustrating the changes you would like to see as well as the foreseen benefits of said changes.  Rather, you insist on continually spamming the boards with complaints about aspects of the game that HTC has clearly indicated are NOT open for discussion.  Trying to propagandize a proposal HTC doesn't seem willing to consider, all the while promoting yourself as some pseudo-intellectual expert on everything from free market economics to computer gaming

Please note that I have not disagreed with your opinions about the caps.  You have illustrated your opinion, so stop pissing up a rope trying to get HTC to do something they are not ready to do.

IMHO you are wasting the community's time and space on a dead subject.  And while most wouldn't want you to leave we would appreciate it if you would stop abusing the carcass of that poor horse!  Afterall, you don't want us to call you Karaya, do you?
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: DMBEAR on July 27, 2009, 02:29:47 AM

I wouldn't say anyone was "offended" that you state your frustration.  We are mostly just sick and tired of hearing your frustration -- yet again.  You have stated your "frustration with a product you pay for" and the suppliers of that product have addressed your frustration  as much as they care to.  So I guess your only recourse is to shut up and live with it, or take your money and go somewhere else.



Dang.  I cant help but find more holes in your case.  

"We are mostly just sick and tired of hearing your frustration -- yet again."

So are you on the board?

"So I guess your only recourse is to shut up and live with it, or take your money and go somewhere else."

I'll ask the same thing of you as I did Fugitive...  ...Is it possible that you could at least acknowledge that the cap is the most influential reason that both arenas are unbalanced?   Also, can you address the issue of letting people into the arena if they commit for a 5 hour period to the side with lower #'s.  Maybe even discuss the validity of opening up Blue On titanic Tuesday so that all of those customers that don't enjoy the large arena wold still have a late war arena to fly in.

Am I asking too much here?


Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: mensa180 on July 27, 2009, 02:33:11 AM
Lets assign each player to a country every time they enter.  Then the sides are always even and everyone is happy!
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: DMBEAR on July 27, 2009, 02:34:50 AM
Lets assign each player to a country every time they enter.  Then the sides are always even and everyone is happy!

Have you received Hoochie's approval yet?  He's on the board.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: 100hooch on July 27, 2009, 02:37:55 AM
By "we" I was referring to the community as I'm not on the board.

I won't acknowledge the cap does that.

How the hell do you enforce a five hour commitment?

Opening Blue on TT is counter-intuitive to having TT so that would be invalid.  Go bowling on Tuesday, HTC already has your money so they don't care.

But that's only my opinion.  Clear enough?

Oh, Mensa, I can't approve that as it would kill the whole squad aspect of the game.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: slimmer on July 27, 2009, 02:38:53 AM
100hooch do you talk for  HTC? no so u should shut up & stop tell ppl to take thair money and go somewhere else :furious


Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: DMBEAR on July 27, 2009, 02:43:48 AM
Opening Blue on TT is counter-intuitive to having TT so that would be invalid.  Go bowling on Tuesday, HTC already has your money so they don't care.

I like TT. I was proposing blue being open to those that dont like the giant arena which I am told is not marketable full time.

By "we" I was clearly just shaking my fist and hoping it would stick.

 :aok
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: 100hooch on July 27, 2009, 02:55:07 AM
Slimmer -- DMBear asked my opinion, so I told him what I thought of his ideas.  Politely I might add.  And I told NO one to take their money elsewhere.  I merely suggested it as a possible recourse to an unsatisfactory resolution of an issue.  You obviously read no better than you write, so back off, Forrest.

Bear, you just insist on missing the point when you're beaten.  And, altering my quote?  Cute.

Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: DMBEAR on July 27, 2009, 03:10:04 AM
Slimmer -- DMBear asked my opinion, so I told him what I thought of his ideas.  Politely I might add.  And I told NO one to take their money elsewhere.  I merely suggested it as a possible recourse to an unsatisfactory resolution of an issue.  You obviously read no better than you write, so back off, Forrest.

Bear, you just insist on missing the point when you're beaten.  And, altering my quote?  Cute.



We disagree.  Does that mean I'm beaten? 

If HTC ever alters TitanicTuesday to include two LW arenas so those that don't like the cluster will have a place to go, will you then say you are beaten?

It's an idea that isnt all that complex or hard to implement.  I'll be in the populated arena, but I can understand those that prefer the less populated one.  Am I just imagining that people claim TT is their least favorite day, or that they go to MW and EW on Tuesdays?

I hardly feel Beaten when all I've done is suggest an alternative to what is available.  Id feel beaten if I resorted to Fanboy101 arguments.

Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: slimmer on July 27, 2009, 03:18:17 AM
Slimmer -- DMBear asked my opinion, so I told him what I thought of his ideas.  Politely I might add.  And I told NO one to take their money elsewhere.  I merely suggested it as a possible recourse to an unsatisfactory resolution of an issue.  You obviously read no better than you write, so back off, Forrest


yes i have a hard time read & write  because i have a stoke  so ty   all u 100guys can kiss my but & go watermelon in a hat :mad:
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Shuffler on July 27, 2009, 08:35:41 AM
Yes, I have read the thread and posted my support in a post a while back.

That's a classless move on your part.  I'm sorry you would be indecent enough to have brought up something like that to make a point in this thread.

Wow.

I guess we should just close the forum since this is all trivial compared to your current mindset?

Slap is hardly classless..... we should all have as good a friend as he is in RL.

I'm just surprised that some folks have not figured out you can switch to even numbers in the game.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Lusche on July 27, 2009, 08:39:54 AM
If HTC ever alters TitanicTuesday to include two LW arenas so those that don't like the cluster will have a place to go,

We already have a place to go if you don't like the cluster...

MW

Balanced planeset, tanks, captures, small map, ~50 players, same arena settings as in LW... it's all there.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Patches1 on July 27, 2009, 08:48:18 AM

Errr...ummm...if memory serves me correctly...wasn't Titanic Tuesday is a direct response to the Community's hew and cry for a SINGLE Late War arena after the arenas split; didn't HTC compromise with the community and thus we have Titanic Tuesday?

Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: SlapShot on July 27, 2009, 08:52:22 AM
Errr...ummm...if memory serves me correctly...wasn't Titanic Tuesday is a direct response to the Community's hew and cry for a SINGLE Late War arena after the arenas split; didn't HTC compromise with the community and thus we have Titanic Tuesday?



Yup ... goes to show you that no matter what HTC does ... it's not good enough and they could never please everyone.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Lusche on July 27, 2009, 08:52:56 AM
Errr...ummm...if memory serves me correctly...wasn't Titanic Tuesday is a direct response to the Community's hew and cry for a SINGLE Late War arena after the arenas split; didn't HTC compromise with the community and thus we have Titanic Tuesday?



"community" ain't a single entity. Some like the arena split, some hate it. Some like TT, some hate it.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: kilo2 on July 27, 2009, 08:56:21 AM
If DMBEARs stating of his opinion on arena caps bothers you so much why come into a thread called "bottle the caps"? If you cant figure out
what hes going to be talking about in the thread your clueless.

But instead of going oh "this thread is a complaint on the arena caps I am just going to skim over it". you say "how can i be a total dbag today"? "oh I know lets go bust someones balls for posting one thread among thousands of threads!"

The BBS can be a worse cesspool than the MA. :(
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Lusche on July 27, 2009, 08:58:39 AM
If DMBEARs stating of his opinion on arena caps bothers you so much why come into a thread called "bottle the caps"? If you cant figure out
what hes going to be talking about in the thread your clueless.

But instead of going oh "this thread is a complaint on the arena caps I am just going to skim over it". you say "how can i be a total dbag today"? "oh I know lets go bust someones balls for posting one thread among thousands of threads!"

The BBS can be a worse cesspool than the MA. :(

I thought this was an open thread.
I thought this was a place of discussion.
DMBEAR can state his opinion. So can everybody else.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Shuffler on July 27, 2009, 09:02:25 AM
If DMBEARs stating of his opinion on arena caps bothers you so much why come into a thread called "bottle the caps"? If you cant figure out
what hes going to be talking about in the thread your clueless.

But instead of going oh "this thread is a complaint on the arena caps I am just going to skim over it". you say "how can i be a total dbag today"? "oh I know lets go bust someones balls for posting one thread among thousands of threads!"

The BBS can be a worse cesspool than the MA. :(

If it bothers you that all folks can state their opinions on an open forum.... then keep your opinion to yourself.  :P
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: kilo2 on July 27, 2009, 09:25:05 AM
I thought this was an open thread.
I thought this was a place of discussion.
DMBEAR can state his opinion. So can everybody else.

If it bothers you that all folks can state their opinions on an open forum.... then keep your opinion to yourself.  :P

Did I ever say they couldn't post I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of it, but go ahead flame-on. If anything it will inflate you post count.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Shuffler on July 27, 2009, 09:27:58 AM
Did I ever say they couldn't post I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of it, but go ahead flame-on. If anything it will inflate you post count.

If you look at my post very very carefully you'll see mine was in jest. It is my opinion that your opinion is very opinionated as opinions go.   ;)
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Lusche on July 27, 2009, 09:29:09 AM
Did I ever say they couldn't post I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of it, but go ahead flame-on. If anything it will inflate you post count.

Could you please point the my hypocrisy a bit more exactly? Me snail, me slow today.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: kilo2 on July 27, 2009, 09:34:24 AM
Could you please point the my hypocrisy a bit more exactly? Me snail, me slow today.

It is hypocritical because they are complaining about complaining.

I should have written the hypocrisy/stupidity of it.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Lusche on July 27, 2009, 09:43:37 AM
It is hypocritical because they are complaining about complaining.

I should have written the hypocrisy/stupidity of it.

Please show me the post where I did complain about complaining in this thread.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: kilo2 on July 27, 2009, 09:53:39 AM
Please show me the post where I did complain about complaining in this thread.

I did not say you were complaining.

Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: WMLute on July 27, 2009, 10:15:57 AM
Flying as a Knit last night was no fun.  In the one arena we were getting swarmed on all sides by hoards, and in the other we were the hoard swarming everybody.

Booooring.

I was wondering then how difficult it would be for HiTech to Coad it so the side getting hit by ENY will show an arena as FULL, whereas the side w/o ENY would show the arena as OPEN?


Using the screenshots given...

ORANGE
(http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp193/dmbear/ahss58-1.jpg)
If you are Bish or Rook ORANGE would be FULL but BLUE would be OPEN.



BLUE
(http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp193/dmbear/ahss59.jpg)
If you are Knit BLUE would be FULL but ORANGE would be OPEN.



Maybe this kicks in when ENY hit's a certain amount.

This way when new people log on to AH they go to the arena where they are the lowest #'s and balance it out.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Lusche on July 27, 2009, 10:24:14 AM

I was wondering then how difficult it would be for HiTech to Coad it so the side getting hit by ENY will show an arena as FULL, whereas the side w/o ENY would show the arena as OPEN?

I vaguely remember we had something like that a few years ago as a test run, shortly after the great split. The waiting queue - You could wait for a spot to open or switch to outnumbered side and enter arena... *sratchhead*
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Shuffler on July 27, 2009, 10:50:29 AM
lol
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: DMBEAR on July 27, 2009, 11:14:57 AM
I want to thank all the vets for the following advice...  :aok

Quote

here's a thought. don't like game play at the time.....log off and go fishing. 

Your consistent screen shots of moments in time in regards to the "cap" are one of those things in life that in the total picture ... means crap ... along with the fact that it will not change HiTech's mind.

your angst over the "cap" is what is classless and indecent.

Either learn to live with it, or go play WoW.

So I guess your only recourse is to shut up and live with it, or take your money and go somewhere else.

IMHO you are wasting the community's time and space on a dead subject

We are mostly just sick and tired of hearing your frustration -- yet again.

Opening Blue on TT is counter-intuitive to having TT so that would be invalid.  Go bowling on Tuesday, HTC already has your money so they don't care.

I do have to ask...If you are upset about me wasting your time, or you are sick and tired of reading my posts...nevermind.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: WMLute on July 27, 2009, 12:25:22 PM
I vaguely remember we had something like that a few years ago as a test run, shortly after the great split. The waiting queue - You could wait for a spot to open or switch to outnumbered side and enter arena... *sratchhead*

My idea would always give you at least one LW arena to enter at all times, no waiting, and you wouldn't have to change sides.

It would also mean that the arena you would be joining isn't one where you out # the nme.

Voila!  Balanced sides.

(I know it can't be THIS easy...  Help me find flaws here people...)
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: SlapShot on July 27, 2009, 12:35:43 PM
I vaguely remember we had something like that a few years ago as a test run, shortly after the great split. The waiting queue - You could wait for a spot to open or switch to outnumbered side and enter arena... *sratchhead*

Brought up in discussion ... never implemented.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: theNewB on July 27, 2009, 12:45:16 PM
I read 5 pages of mosty ppl flaming..... arena caps are annoying espically the times i play. all i have to say otherwise ill get flamed for something......
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Lusche on July 27, 2009, 01:14:56 PM
Brought up in discussion ... never implemented.

I'm almost sure or was there for a week or so...
I'm trying to dig through my notes to see if I can prove or disprove it

Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Shuffler on July 27, 2009, 02:06:03 PM
My idea would always give you at least one LW arena to enter at all times, no waiting, and you wouldn't have to change sides.

It would also mean that the arena you would be joining isn't one where you out # the nme.

Voila!  Balanced sides.

(I know it can't be THIS easy...  Help me find flaws here people...)

What if your knight and both arenas have high knit content.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Lusche on July 27, 2009, 02:08:14 PM
Brought up in discussion ... never implemented.

Found it. My memory served me right, it was implemented in Decamber 2006:


Quote from: HiTech
Monday we will be implementing a new balancing system. It works with the existing ENY number. It will no longer limit what planes you can fly. But rather when it reaches a preset value, people entering the arena will not be able to fly in that arena for their current country.

You will get a message  similar to you are 3rd in a queue of 3 .

Your choices will be
1. go to another arena.
2. change countries.
3. wait until more people come onto the other side, or some one from your country leaves.

People waiting will always be able to change countries regardless of their last country change time.
People waiting in queue will not be counted in the ENY values.
This new balancing system will be implemented in all main arenas.

from  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,194277.msg2263190.html#msg2263190
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Shuffler on July 27, 2009, 02:10:58 PM
Found it. My memory served me right, it was implemented in Decamber 2006:


from  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,194277.msg2263190.html#msg2263190

I remember all the squalling about that lol.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Lusche on July 27, 2009, 02:23:34 PM
I remember all the squalling about that lol.

Pales in comparison to the Arena Split a few weeks earlier... when players like Lusche went ballistic  :lol
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: SlapShot on July 27, 2009, 02:32:31 PM
I'm almost sure or was there for a week or so...
I'm trying to dig through my notes to see if I can prove or disprove it



Notes ? :O ... you are too much ... :D
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: waystin2 on July 27, 2009, 02:40:32 PM
Titanic Tuesday everyday!  :aok Problem solved. :D
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Lusche on July 27, 2009, 02:41:49 PM
Notes ? :O ... you are too much ... :D

I just have no life.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: waystin2 on July 27, 2009, 02:43:38 PM
I just have no life.

A-Ha, I have you in a false statement Lusche.  You do have a life, it's called Aces High!  :lol
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: PFactorDave on July 27, 2009, 03:15:53 PM
Found it. My memory served me right, it was implemented in Decamber 2006:


from  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,194277.msg2263190.html#msg2263190

I wasn't around here when that happened Lusche, can you tell me what turned out to be wrong with that system?  Why did it fail?  On the face of it, it seems like a half decent concept to me.

Just curious.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: hubsonfire on July 27, 2009, 03:28:06 PM
Read the thread about it?
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Shuffler on July 27, 2009, 03:30:50 PM
Titanic Tuesday everyday!  :aok Problem solved. :D

Tuesday is currently the worst day on AH.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: waystin2 on July 27, 2009, 03:40:55 PM
Tuesday is currently the worst day on AH.

Hello Shuffler,

Although I suspect that I know the answer you will give, can you qualify your statement a bit?  I was speaking more to the cap issue, as opposed to game play issues.

 :salute

Way
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Shuffler on July 27, 2009, 03:43:07 PM
Howdy Waystin

As for cap no argument. As for playability.. when it is bad it is bad. Which is most of the time. With 2 LW arenas at least most of the time if you can't find a decent fight, there is one in the other LW arena.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: The Fugitive on July 27, 2009, 03:52:17 PM
I've never played Wow, but since you recommend it I assume you have.

I don't care if all the Fanboys come out everytime the current setup is criticized and tell me that I should go visit a rehab center or play Wow.  I don't know why you all get so offended when people state their frustration with a product they pay for.

Fugitive...Is it possible that you could at least acknowledge that the cap is the most influential reason that both arenas are unbalanced?   Also, can you address the issue of letting people into the arena if they commit for a 5 hour period to the side with lower #'s.  Maybe even discuss the validity of opening up Blue On titanic Tuesday so that all of those customers that don't enjoy the large arena wold still have a late war arena to fly in.

I started this thread with no ill will.  That was brought in by others.




No I don't think I could say that the cap is the most influential reason that "both" arenas are unbalanced. The reason being is I have no evidence to base that on, nor do you. Did you poll those Knights that were playing when you took the screen shot? No I think you just ran to the boards to complain.

The reason you get these "flame wars", and "famboi" responses is because you know the answer BEFORE you even post! You've been here long enough, and read enough of these threads about it that you should know the only response your going to get are these that you do. Then your surprised at the answers you get?

HT has said the they will never go back to a single LW arena..... get use to it
HT has said that CAPs are here to stay..... get use to it.

If you want to complain about a "product" your paying for complain to the people supplying the product ! Email or call them. If you don't get any satisfaction that way, either quit..... or get use to it
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: LCCajun on July 27, 2009, 04:45:57 PM
Even though I don't play anymore I have to say b/c it really bugged the hell out of me. I couldn't stand TT, caps, or eny. Do I have a solution no wish I did. For the ppl who are tired of hearing how the caps suck, y the need to post if ya'll are tired of griping, all ur post does is fuel the fire. Ok <S> all hope to be back sometime.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: PFactorDave on July 27, 2009, 04:55:14 PM
Read the thread about it?

Well the thread in question is 55 pages long.  I was hoping that somebody who was here could sum it up for me and save me the time.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Shuffler on July 27, 2009, 04:59:55 PM
Well the thread in question is 55 pages long.  I was hoping that somebody who was here could sum it up for me and save me the time.

It did not work.

Your Welcome  :aok


Even though I don't play anymore I have to say b/c it really bugged the hell out of me. I couldn't stand TT, caps, or eny. Do I have a solution no wish I did. For the ppl who are tired of hearing how the caps suck, y the need to post if ya'll are tired of griping, all ur post does is fuel the fire. Ok <S> all hope to be back sometime.
Open forum for discussions. Most figure this person is not aware of earlier threads. Which it is obvious he was not. Now he has the info and can read through the massive pile of previously discussed info.

None of this will get anything done posting to here. If you have some idea it would be good to call the offices to run it though them. They can say immediately if it has been tried or not.
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Steve on July 27, 2009, 05:14:22 PM
Titanic Tuesday everyday!  :aok Problem solved. :D

Huzzah!   Hear hear
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: BillyD on July 27, 2009, 07:26:35 PM

TT every day?


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Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: Scratchman on July 28, 2009, 01:01:21 AM
My idea would always give you at least one LW arena to enter at all times, no waiting, and you wouldn't have to change sides.

It would also mean that the arena you would be joining isn't one where you out # the nme.

Voila!  Balanced sides.

(I know it can't be THIS easy...  Help me find flaws here people...)
HiTech spoke of this and he mentioned it in a previous post, ( on the same subject no less ), that he could easily program the arena to cap out say, ( a fictious number 50 ), and stop allowing that country that has reached that number to be locked out into that arena until the other countries matched that magical number. That way the balance would be from the start. At the time it made sense to me. If he intends to do this soon I do not know. But I do like this idea you mentioned as well. What do the rest of you think?
Title: Re: Bottle the Caps...
Post by: WMLute on July 28, 2009, 09:37:15 AM
HiTech spoke of this and he mentioned it in a previous post, ( on the same subject no less ), that he could easily program the arena to cap out say, ( a fictious number 50 ), and stop allowing that country that has reached that number to be locked out into that arena until the other countries matched that magical number. That way the balance would be from the start. At the time it made sense to me. If he intends to do this soon I do not know. But I do like this idea you mentioned as well. What do the rest of you think?

This almost needs it own post.

I think it's a great idea.