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Title: Damage Control
Post by: CHAPPY on July 29, 2009, 04:57:34 PM
Is any other squad going to have to drop numbers this month because of the new update?
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: texastc316 on July 29, 2009, 05:36:17 PM
I figure we will lose a couple
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: Stampf on July 29, 2009, 05:59:59 PM
I figure we will lose a couple

Probably same.

I am more concerned with how the SE Arena itself copes with the crowd, as well as the players.  Discos, frame rates, warping, etc...
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: CHAPPY on July 29, 2009, 06:01:38 PM
Maybe the CM's can see how the numbers work out in the first frame and let us adjust for the second and third frame. :aok
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: ghostdancer on July 29, 2009, 06:17:04 PM
I will bring up the concerns and suggestions to Stoney / Daddog.
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: CHAPPY on July 29, 2009, 06:18:27 PM
thx GD  :salute

FSO still over a week away maybe some people will work out thier issues.
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: daddog on July 29, 2009, 07:11:09 PM
I know we have two in my squad that are in trouble already.  :frown:

If need be we can adjust as you suggested for Frames 2 and 3. We will play Frame 1 by ear. I will send out warnings as usual for those that are low in numbers, (beyond the +-2) but if they simply reply back explaining why and their efforts to correct it will be good.

Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: ghostdancer on July 29, 2009, 07:12:54 PM
Fingers crossed and I know people are working on updating the Luzon terrain for the FSO. That should all be in place by the time of the event. Oh, and I have relayed your concerns to Daddog / Stoney.

Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: CHAPPY on July 29, 2009, 07:30:33 PM
 :salute
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: akbmzawy on July 29, 2009, 07:40:06 PM
I will not be able to play the FSO until I get some innards for my computer that can play this new update. I will let my squad know this.
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: Fencer51 on July 29, 2009, 09:06:13 PM
I got at least 2 maybe more that were constant shows who are now out.
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: Hamltnblue on July 29, 2009, 09:10:32 PM
Here's another bright idea.
Why don't the brilliant minds at hitechcreations roll back the last update and give a new date for the change?
There was absolutely no warning at all.  Most that are affected have lower rated machines but were doing fine and having fun.  At a minimum AH could have introduced the patch with a couple of arena's for a couple of months and gradually converted all areana's.
Everyone understands that change is inevetible but this one isn't that significant.  It simply adds greater ground effects which the average player doesn't even notice after the first half hour!!!!  We have a couple of long time pilots affected by this who are now forced out and if they are I'd have to consider following them.  Please consider rolling it back until a better plan is found.  :pray.
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: Tarstar on July 29, 2009, 11:11:22 PM
If things go really... I mean really Bad... I've no doubt that the LCA, would gladly, at least, consider.... consider mind you.. an invite to FSO... Only to help fill the void of course :D

We'd be willing to make the sacrifice... In this time of hardship... Sooo... Should the CM's need to fill the worst rides in the game... I think the LCA would consider filling the role...


Just a thought.....   :o
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: SkyRock on July 29, 2009, 11:19:02 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: Vulcan on July 31, 2009, 04:51:32 AM
There was absolutely no warning at all.

Sorry but that is an ignorant comment. The open beta had been there for quite a while. I rarely play except for FSO and I managed to check it out.
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: ghostdancer on July 31, 2009, 11:43:26 AM
I would suggest that any squad that thinks that the new update might affect their numbers send a note to Stoney & Daddog now saying that while you are not sure it is possible your numbers might be soft for the first frame do to the update.
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: texastc316 on July 31, 2009, 04:52:58 PM
Still waiting to see who all is affected. But lowered commitment level anyway
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: Hamltnblue on July 31, 2009, 08:45:41 PM
Sorry but that is an ignorant comment. The open beta had been there for quite a while. I rarely play except for FSO and I managed to check it out.
Ignorant Comment? Screw You too.
A beta has absolutely NOTHING to do with going live. I've been in several beta programs and never saw an unannounced release.
People checked it out and commented that they were having problems and there were comments in the beta forums that the problems were being worked on. Next thing you know it was out as a patch.
This was released as a patch and not a new version.  The game's minimum hardware requirements have changed with zero deadline given to the members. I have high end hardware and have no problems but many others do.
I don't think the outcome was intentional but to those who have machines with integrated video or other lower end hardware the message appears to be sorry but we have to cut you off so we can move on.  It's a necessary evil for progress but it could have and still can be done better.
 :salute
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: DrDea on July 31, 2009, 10:02:32 PM
 Get real.The computer needed to play this update would barely crack COD 4. Its a shame that some will have to toss that 486 and step into the reality of computer gaming but there you have it.Try playing Crysis,World at war...ect ect and while crying a river thank HT Creations for using a dated game with out any graphical updates for eons. Get over it already and spend some money on a suitable computer.Try NewEgg.com.Ask your mom to hold your allowance for a few weeks. If you could run the beta,you can run this.If you couldnt then you had plenty of time to upgrade.
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: PFactorDave on July 31, 2009, 10:04:16 PM
Get real.The computer needed to play this update would barely crack COD 4. Its a shame that some will have to toss that 486 and step into the reality of computer gaming but there you have it.Try playing Crysis,World at war...ect ect and while crying a river thank HT Creations for using a dated game with out any graphical updates for eons. Get over it already and spend some money on a suitable computer.Try NewEgg.com.Ask your mom to hold your allowance for a few weeks. If you could run the beta,you can run this.If you couldnt then you had plenty of time to upgrade.

Worded a bit harshly, but +1...  Even I managed to own a system that runs the new AH version...
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: Stoney on July 31, 2009, 10:08:27 PM
Listen guys--We'll make this really easy.  Leave your commitment levels where you think you'll need them.  If you're off by a couple because some of your squaddies had unforeseen issues with the new version, don't sweat it.  We can sort that out as the situation dictates.

 :aok
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: DrKlahn on July 31, 2009, 10:12:11 PM
Looks like I'll be one of the slowpokes.  I'm able to use the beta just fine, thank you very much, but wasn't prepared (read: didn't plan ahead) for the 1/2 hour download necessary to log on.


:cry Might have to get killed in the MA rather than FSO...bummer!
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: Motherland on July 31, 2009, 10:19:14 PM
Looks like I'll be one of the slowpokes.  I'm able to use the beta just fine, thank you very much, but wasn't prepared (read: didn't plan ahead) for the 1/2 hour download necessary to log on.


:cry Might have to get killed in the MA rather than FSO...bummer!

Lucky you... this is an off week ;)
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: DrKlahn on July 31, 2009, 10:21:42 PM
Lucky you... this is an off week ;)
:rofl

Neat!
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: PFactorDave on July 31, 2009, 10:23:42 PM
Neat!

LoL!  Neat?

Tell Potsie and Ralph Malph that Richie and the Fonz will see them next Friday!   :rofl

Just kidding...   :)
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: Hamltnblue on July 31, 2009, 11:25:36 PM
I guess this is probably the wrong forum for the performance of pc's etc, however it doesn't matter what people are using. If the minimum specs are changed then it should be announced well before a major update. Some people simply can't afford a new machine or didn't think they'd have to at this point.  Should they upgrade? maybe, but it's up to them. Just give them a little time to talk to their wife, significant other, banker or whomever.  The new version looks great and I'm hearing that the latest patch (out today), has helped alot. This is why it should still be in beta.
Hang in there all, I'm sure they'll come up with a solutions soon enough.
 :salute
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: SpiveyCH on August 01, 2009, 03:46:53 PM
      The release came out on July 28th, it is now Aug. 1st.  Not even been a week and the sky is falling. 

      HTC will get this worked out, as they always seem to do.  Same thing happened when we went from AH to AH2.  I am lucky to have a machine now that can handle the changes, but back then I had a factory video card and was on dial-up.  Never thought I was going to be able to handle AH2 without a new machine.  Contacted Skuzzy and was able to get me back in to the game.  Took me about a week, but Skuzzy was on the ball with fast responses.  It was unreal how quick he helped me with all the other E-Mails he must have been getting.  About a year later, I went out and bought a new video card for 70 bucks(Not the Best, just better than what I had.), and was kicking myself in the butt for not doing it earlier.  It made all the difference.

      I think the beta test did what it was intended to do.  Moving it to the main AH players was the next step.  There are always going to be issues when a new release like this goes live, no matter how much beta testing you do.  We the players are reporting problems and they are working as fast as they can to help us all out.  We just need to give them time.

      In the end, I hope that all get their issues work out and are able to fly this great game we love. :salute
Title: Re: Damage Control
Post by: Stoney on August 01, 2009, 04:17:53 PM
I guess this is probably the wrong forum for the performance of pc's etc...

Yes it is.  There are a myriad of other threads available to complain about the new version.  With respect to FSO, if your numbers in August are different than your commitment level, and the reason is due to new version issues, I'll take it under consideration.  Period.  Next thread.