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Title: F2A
Post by: l0newolf on July 30, 2009, 01:51:34 PM
would it be too hard too put a arrestor hook on the brewster?  ;)









Title: Re: F2A
Post by: waystin2 on July 30, 2009, 01:57:23 PM
The F2A did launch from carriers.  Seems feasible, so I say +1.
Title: Re: F2A
Post by: Saxman on July 30, 2009, 02:34:28 PM
Although the F2As used at Midway may have had the arrestor gear, for certain the Dutch, RAF and RAAF birds didn't. Since the aircraft the 239 is actually standing in for were all flown from land bases during the war--and MOST importantly, the aircraft modelled is the B-239 which itself did NOT have an arrestor hook--I'd say leave the Brewster land-based. They can't (or rather, shouldn't) add the arrestor gear without including the associated weight of it.
Title: Re: F2A
Post by: waystin2 on July 30, 2009, 05:56:52 PM
They can't (or rather, shouldn't) add the arrestor gear without including the associated weight of it.

I concur.  It needs to be looked at as a revision of the brewster model.
Title: Re: F2A
Post by: Shifty on July 30, 2009, 07:06:46 PM
would it be too hard too put a arrestor hook on the brewster?  ;)

If we ever get the F2A it probably will have an arrestor hook. We currently have the B-239.










Title: Re: F2A
Post by: ACE on July 30, 2009, 09:39:09 PM
That'dbe cool
Title: Re: F2A
Post by: Delirium on July 30, 2009, 11:54:46 PM
They can't (or rather, shouldn't) add the arrestor gear without including the associated weight of it.

From what I remember, the Finns also stripped as much as they could to make it as light as possible. The F2A would/should be a lot heavier, arrestor hook aside.
Title: Re: F2A
Post by: Saxman on July 31, 2009, 12:07:04 AM
Depends on which version, as the F2A-2 was very well-liked by its pilots. The one that actually saw combat and that we SHOULD get is the F2A-3, which was significantly heavier, although it had a more powerful engine (not enough to offset the weight increase, however). The F2A-3 and overwheight British exports (B-339E, I think) were the two that earned the Brewster its poor reputation (granted, the circumstances helped, too). The Dutch export wasn't as overloaded as the US and British versions. She just got overwhelmed by sheer numbers.
Title: Re: F2A
Post by: Wmaker on July 31, 2009, 07:29:31 AM
From what I remember, the Finns also stripped as much as they could to make it as light as possible. The F2A would/should be a lot heavier, arrestor hook aside.

Well, if anything, Finns actually added weight to the Model 239 by adding pilot armor and later .50 cal in place of the 30. cal. The arrestor gear and other navy gear were removed from the F2A-1s along with other US Goverment property (like instruments) when the planes were put to "export standard" (to Model 239 config) in the US. It is said that the missing instruments were somehwat a surpise and Finland had thought they were part of the purchase. Metric instrument that were originally meant for Finnish license-built Fokker D.XXI-series were then installed into the Brewsters.
Title: Re: F2A
Post by: Greebo on July 31, 2009, 07:45:32 AM
I can't see why you'd need a hook for AH anyway. It's not exactly difficult to stop a B-239 over the length of the CV deck without one.
Title: Re: F2A
Post by: l0newolf on August 02, 2009, 02:16:39 PM
 :noid
Title: Re: F2A
Post by: bj229r on August 02, 2009, 04:38:27 PM
I can't see why you'd need a hook for AH anyway. It's not exactly difficult to stop a B-239 over the length of the CV deck without one.
IF ya can stop a P47 and hotpad, ya can stop one of those things (Of course, you couldn't START there to begin with)
Title: Re: F2A
Post by: Spikes on August 02, 2009, 05:06:42 PM
I can't see why you'd need a hook for AH anyway. It's not exactly difficult to stop a B-239 over the length of the CV deck without one.
Think they want to launch from the CV.