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Title: available vidmem and useage question?
Post by: danny37 on July 31, 2009, 06:05:20 AM
i have 1394.0M of vidmem and use is 4.7M with a jumpy fps of 20-40 depending on what im doing atm,is there anyway to increase the amount of used vidmem to get a better fps?
also on past version in video settings we had the option to preload textures,why not on this version as most seem to think it would help my situation?
in the 2.13 version i got a solid 59-60 fps with vidmem and useage the same as this version,all settings in game are at their lowest,and all settings for my video card is set for performance.35-37 background processes and cpu useage from 1-3%
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also in the new version i can climb in a plane and point my nose towards the sky and get 75 fps but soon as i look down it goes back to 20-40
the worst is in a tank in the main gun,zoomed in around trees or shrubs my fps drop to almost 5-10
i was running 1440x900 res in 2.13 and so far in 2.14 ive had to go to 1280x960 to get the fps i have atm
any help would be greatfully appreciated.
Title: Re: available vidmem and useage question?
Post by: Skuzzy on July 31, 2009, 06:46:25 AM
Uncheck Options->Graphics Detail->Advanced->Detailed Terrain.  The video card in your computer is a low end card which does not have the processing power to run the detailed terrain option.
Title: Re: available vidmem and useage question?
Post by: danny37 on July 31, 2009, 07:41:15 AM
ok, a new question then for a hardware tard,say i get a EVGA GEFORCE9800 GT 512MB card,looking at my system DXDIAG  in opening post,would there be anything else i would need also,say like a power supply or anything to be able to run that card or do you need more info about my system,if so,what?
Title: Re: available vidmem and useage question?
Post by: cattb on July 31, 2009, 12:14:39 PM
you wanna check your power supply, i run 1 8800 gt, simple system. I have 500 watt newer PSU with the correct molex plug in. From the research I did putting in new card last year I don't think you want to run below 500 watt . I think if your power supply is older you can convert the molex but you want enough amperage on the rails...theres lot more tech savvy poeple here than me that can explain it.Also i believe your video mem is runinng off your MB RAM by putting in a video card you free up your RAM on the MB which also make your puter faster.
Newegg has a PSU chart and you can google PSU chart if it will help.
cattb
Title: Re: available vidmem and useage question?
Post by: BaldEagl on July 31, 2009, 01:06:58 PM
With an HP Pavillion I can almost assure you you'll have to upgrade the PSU.  Just plan on it.
Title: Re: available vidmem and useage question?
Post by: danny37 on July 31, 2009, 04:17:04 PM
With an HP Pavillion I can almost assure you you'll have to upgrade the PSU.  Just plan on it.
yea,seems my PSU is only 250w,asked hp support about it,to upgrade to a 512mb card i would have to upgrade PSU to 300w.
found a good deal on 1gb card,what kind of PSU would i need for that,or would the 512mb be enough.
its a EVGA GEFORCE 9500GT 512MB
the 1gb card is a
SAPPHIRE RADEON HD3650 1GB
both are GDDR2 PCI express 2.0x16
Title: Re: available vidmem and useage question?
Post by: BaldEagl on July 31, 2009, 04:49:20 PM
yea,seems my PSU is only 250w,asked hp support about it,to upgrade to a 512mb card i would have to upgrade PSU to 300w.
found a good deal on 1gb card,what kind of PSU would i need for that,or would the 512mb be enough.
its a EVGA GEFORCE 9500GT 512MB
the 1gb card is a
SAPPHIRE RADEON HD3650 1GB
both are GDDR2 PCI express 2.0x16

1 Gb cards are usually slower than the same card with 512 Mb so I'd stick with a 512.  You're probably going to need 350W for a 512 9500 GT.  Make sure the PSU's got the minimum needed amps on the 12V rails (I think the 9500 needs 18 amps but could be wrong) and that it's 80+ certified.
Title: Re: available vidmem and useage question?
Post by: cattb on July 31, 2009, 05:03:45 PM
HI,
 Jusy my opinion,I would go for a 9800 nvidia or a equal ATI card. I prefer nvidia but to each their own.A 9500 is more middle of the range card.Newegg has a evga 9800 GT 88.00 after rebate free shipping.If you go to evga or xfx website you can compare the cards.
 Just a quick compare: a 9500 has 32 Stream Processors , 9800 has Stream Processors 112, Memory interface 128bit for the 9500 and 9800 has 256 bit.
 The price difference is about 40.00.
 The GT standard core clock, GTX I think the next fastest,GTS fastest coreclock, I think in this order.
 1 last note, I have allways looked at evga and xfx for their lifetime warranties, some of the companies do not have lifetime warranty.
Cattb/Tim O
Title: Re: available vidmem and useage question?
Post by: danny37 on August 01, 2009, 05:02:41 AM
ok,thanx for the help and info guys :salute
Title: Re: available vidmem and useage question?
Post by: Denholm on August 01, 2009, 10:59:25 AM
Next thing to consider: Does your computer case have room to hold those cards? Those #800/#900 cards from NVIDIA take up A LOT of room. Take a picture of the case open and I'm sure we can tell you.
Title: Re: available vidmem and useage question?
Post by: DCCBOSS on August 01, 2009, 12:26:30 PM
A question to those who know
Just putting this out there my Nivida card is 8800 GTS with 320 vidio memory, I have plenty of voltage and 32 amps on my rail, what do you think the short falls are with this card.
Title: Re: available vidmem and useage question?
Post by: cattb on August 01, 2009, 12:30:18 PM
Good point denholm, being a HP ,the case might be smaller, opps forgot about that;  also if he upgrades his PSU can he use a PSU from any manufacturer or does he have to get one from HP?
I had a HP (years ago) and remember the cases are smaller.
Cattb/Tim O
Title: Re: available vidmem and useage question?
Post by: Denholm on August 01, 2009, 12:43:50 PM
I managed to fit a PC P&C 750Watt into an old HP Pavilion A1012x. My goodness, talk about a MESS of cables. I'm not kidding when I say there was NO room left in that case. So, to answer the question. Yes, HPs can take, "foreign" PSUs. Just make sure the mainboard power connector is 20+4 not 24-pin. Otherwise you might run into some problems.
Title: Re: available vidmem and useage question?
Post by: Fulmar on August 01, 2009, 02:27:38 PM
I managed to fit a PC P&C 750Watt into an old HP Pavilion A1012x. My goodness, talk about a MESS of cables. I'm not kidding when I say there was NO room left in that case. So, to answer the question. Yes, HPs can take, "foreign" PSUs. Just make sure the mainboard power connector is 20+4 not 24-pin. Otherwise you might run into some problems.
They do may 24 to 20 pin adapters.  But I can't remember seeing a PSU in the last few years that didn't have the 20+4 option
Title: Re: available vidmem and useage question?
Post by: Scratchman on August 01, 2009, 10:53:04 PM
HI,
 Jusy my opinion,I would go for a 9800 nvidia or a equal ATI card. I prefer nvidia but to each their own.A 9500 is more middle of the range card.Newegg has a evga 9800 GT 88.00 after rebate free shipping.If you go to evga or xfx website you can compare the cards.
 Just a quick compare: a 9500 has 32 Stream Processors , 9800 has Stream Processors 112, Memory interface 128bit for the 9500 and 9800 has 256 bit.
 The price difference is about 40.00.
 The GT standard core clock, GTX I think the next fastest,GTS fastest coreclock, I think in this order.
 1 last note, I have allways looked at evga and xfx for their lifetime warranties, some of the companies do not have lifetime warranty.
Cattb/Tim O
Best bet is XFX. And a note to remember the 9800 is a HUGE card that is a power hog. Not only will you need a PSU of 650 watts or more, but 1 that has at least two PCI-E 4+2 power cables. Other things to consider is that although the card fits into a PCI slot, it's size will cover up the next PCI slot as well. So your motherboard must have more than 1 PCI slot available, and large enough so that it doesn't cover anything else needed as well. And lets not forget your case has to have enough room to hold all this as well. The NZT cases and all the XFX motherboards whether AMD or Intel variety will hold this MONSTER. Best prices for all your parts that I have found so far can be found at Tiger Direct. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: available vidmem and useage question?
Post by: BaldEagl on August 02, 2009, 02:35:46 PM
A question to those who know
Just putting this out there my Nivida card is 8800 GTS with 320 vidio memory, I have plenty of voltage and 32 amps on my rail, what do you think the short falls are with this card.

The 320 Mb and 640 Mb 8800 GTS's run a different processor then the 512 8800 GTS.  IIRC they have fewer pixel pipelines and lower GPU and memory clock rates than the GTS or the 9xxx series which, for the most part, also use the G92 chipset.  Beyond that 320 Mb is at the low end of the memory spectrum.
Title: Re: available vidmem and useage question?
Post by: eagl on August 02, 2009, 03:29:22 PM
If you try to stuff a larger PSU into a smaller case or a custom one like some Dells or HPs, consider one with modular cables.  That way you can save some space and increase cooling airflow by only using the cables you really need.
Title: Re: available vidmem and useage question?
Post by: danny37 on August 05, 2009, 06:46:50 AM
Next thing to consider: Does your computer case have room to hold those cards? Those #800/#900 cards from NVIDIA take up A LOT of room. Take a picture of the case open and I'm sure we can tell you.
heres the pics of my case,looks to me to be plenty of room for a video card even if its bigger than mine,also a pic of my card.
what i am not sure of is the connector,being 20+4 or what,i dont know how to tell.
(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww293/danny37/P1010253.jpg)
(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww293/danny37/P1010254.jpg)
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