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Title: P-82/F-82"Twin Mustang"
Post by: GhostCDB on July 31, 2009, 08:15:46 AM
I know the P-82 have two cockpits...I am well aware of this. But it would be cool to have another twin engine fighter on the game. F-82 Twin Mustang was the last American piston-engine fighter ordered into production by the United States Air Force. Based on the P-51 Mustang, the F-82 was originally designed as a long-range escort fighter in World War II, however the war ended well before the first production units were operational, so its postwar role changed to that of night-fighting. Radar-equipped F-82s were used extensively by the Air Defense Command as replacements for the P-61 Black Widow night fighter.  :salute



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Title: Re: P-82/F-82"Twin Mustang"
Post by: Karnak on July 31, 2009, 08:28:43 AM
The fact that you know it is post war should have stopped you from posting this in the first place.  There are plenty of twins from WWII, some even American, that could be added.
Title: Re: P-82/F-82"Twin Mustang"
Post by: bj229r on July 31, 2009, 08:34:38 AM
Is a Merlin that much larger than the P38 engine (Allison V-1710)? Would have been interesting to see a 38 with THOSE type of twins


(hmm Merlin weighs ~ 300 pounds less. roughly 300 more HP..depending on version)
Title: Re: P-82/F-82"Twin Mustang"
Post by: shifty95 on July 31, 2009, 08:53:08 AM
i beive the p-38 was fitted with a beefier version of the allison engines in the p-40. the rolls-royce merlin was used in the p-51d because the allison in the b model could only get the bird up to hieghts of around 20,000 ft. the merlin could get the d model up to 40,000 ft. it also increased the rate of climb, and speed.
Title: Re: P-82/F-82"Twin Mustang"
Post by: VonMessa on July 31, 2009, 08:57:36 AM
Do they make a tastier Margarita?
Title: Re: P-82/F-82"Twin Mustang"
Post by: shifty95 on July 31, 2009, 09:01:37 AM
Do they make a tastier Margarita?

if they do, tell me as soon as you find out :D

Title: Re: P-82/F-82"Twin Mustang"
Post by: VonMessa on July 31, 2009, 09:23:26 AM
Wont EVER happen..........

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Title: Re: P-82/F-82"Twin Mustang"
Post by: Anaxogoras on July 31, 2009, 11:50:50 AM
The fact that you know it is post war should have stopped you from posting this in the first place.  There are plenty of twins from WWII, some even American, that could be added.

No way.  We need the P-82 before HTC wastes its time with something lame like the Ki-45.
Title: Re: P-82/F-82"Twin Mustang"
Post by: DaveJ on July 31, 2009, 12:24:37 PM
Before we make any judgments, can we all please just wait and see what Stealth has to say about this? He is our resident expert on every single plane.
Title: Re: P-82/F-82"Twin Mustang"
Post by: cattb on July 31, 2009, 12:28:13 PM
 :rofl     :noid        :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: P-82/F-82"Twin Mustang"
Post by: fudgums on July 31, 2009, 12:28:36 PM
me410 ftw
Title: Re: P-82/F-82"Twin Mustang"
Post by: Karnak on July 31, 2009, 01:45:28 PM
i beive the p-38 was fitted with a beefier version of the allison engines in the p-40. the rolls-royce merlin was used in the p-51d because the allison in the b model could only get the bird up to hieghts of around 20,000 ft. the merlin could get the d model up to 40,000 ft. it also increased the rate of climb, and speed.
P-51B is powered by a Merlin as well.  P-51 and P-51A were Allison powered.

Just saying "Merlin" or "Allison" doesn't tell us much.  The version of each is needed and information about its super charger or turbo charger, if it had one.  For example, the Merlin II in a Spitfire Mk I producing about 1,030hp and a Merlin 113 from a Hornet produces about 2,100hp.
Title: Re: P-82/F-82"Twin Mustang"
Post by: GhostCDB on July 31, 2009, 04:13:27 PM
Before we make any judgments, can we all please just wait and see what Stealth has to say about this? He is our resident expert on every single plane.


LOL  :rofl
Title: Re: P-82/F-82"Twin Mustang"
Post by: Widewing on July 31, 2009, 04:34:19 PM
Most P-82s were Allison powered. Only the first 20 were fitted with Merlins. The bulk of that order was canceled.


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: P-82/F-82"Twin Mustang"
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on July 31, 2009, 05:36:39 PM
Is a Merlin that much larger than the P38 engine (Allison V-1710)? Would have been interesting to see a 38 with THOSE type of twins


(hmm Merlin weighs ~ 300 pounds less. roughly 300 more HP..depending on version)

Lockheed did a study. It turns out that a Merlin equipped P-38 would have been heavier, had a reduced climb rate, and reduced range.