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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: AcesHighMan2 on July 31, 2009, 06:36:03 PM
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I have just started flying the P-38's and I have a buvh of questions like is it better B&Z fighter or a turnfighter should it be kept high or low should you dive on the enemy or wait for him to become level with you is it fast or slow what manuvers should be done in it those are all of my questions and If you can can someone who is really good in P-38s help me
Thank You
:salute ACEMAN
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whoops looks like you've already seen Del's thread.
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I have just started flying the P-38's and I have a buvh of questions like is it better B&Z fighter or a turnfighter should it be kept high or low should you dive on the enemy or wait for him to become level with you is it fast or slow what manuvers should be done in it those are all of my questions and If you can can someone who is really good in P-38s help me
Thank You
:salute ACEMAN
A lot of what you ask is dependent on the situation. If you can be more specific on the situation, then we'll be able to give more specific answers.
ack-ack
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There are many, many good P-38 threads in this forum, if you just search a bit..
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If you PM me the time you have available, I'd be willing to spend some time with you in the TA.
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Tomarrow in the TA Del is holding a clinic you should go.
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i just logged out from the ta. spent some time in there just furballing around, then snaphook came in. i think it was over an hour he spent with me....as i think i was being a little thickheaded on some things he was trying to explain.
all in all.....it was probably the best time i've spent. he got a lot through to me in that time.
go in the ta ace. if you can hook up with delerium, i hear he's one of the best. any of the trainers can help ya. if i happen to be in there, i'll try to pass on the little i know......it might not be up to par with some of these guys, but it can get ya started.
the thing with the 38(to me anyway) is that it is a much harder plane to fight in than say a spit, zeek, hellcat, c205, etc.
stick with her, and you'll be rewarded greatly. when i turnfight in my 38, and score a kill, i feel sooooo much better than that same kill in my zeek or hellcat.
good luck dude!!
<<S>>
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+1 on Del. He not only flies the 38 well he is also a fine teacher of "The Art Of The 38".
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If you get serious with it Shuffler will have to supply you with a blender.
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The thing that strikes me about the P-38 that I think makes it somewhat tricky to transition to is that it's trump card is somewhat unusual. What I'm thinking when I say trump card is it's ability to work the vertical and do so with remarkable stability. What makes that tricky in my mind is that if you do it wrong or misjudge the E state of your opponent you're basically leaving yourself hung out to dry. It's an advantage that is real but requires accurate judge of the opponents E which is something that takes time to develop. Otherwise you have a plane that is reasonably fast but can be run down by a lot of the more popular rides in the MA, can turn fairly well under the right conditions but can be out turned by many of the popular rides in the MA.
Someone told me once that the 38 punishes bad ACM decisions and I think there is some truth to that, certainly the 38 is not alone in that regard but it doesn't have the power to recover from those mistakes like say a LA-7 can.
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The thing that strikes me about the P-38 that I think makes it somewhat tricky to transition to is that it's trump card is somewhat unusual. What I'm thinking when I say trump card is it's ability to work the vertical and do so with remarkable stability. What makes that tricky in my mind is that if you do it wrong or misjudge the E state of your opponent you're basically leaving yourself hung out to dry. It's an advantage that is real but requires accurate judge of the opponents E which is something that takes time to develop. Otherwise you have a plane that is reasonably fast but can be run down by a lot of the more popular rides in the MA, can turn fairly well under the right conditions but can be out turned by many of the popular rides in the MA.
Someone told me once that the 38 punishes bad ACM decisions and I think there is some truth to that, certainly the 38 is not alone in that regard but it doesn't have the power to recover from those mistakes like say a LA-7 can.
what i've always felt about the 38?
she doesn't really do any single thing spectacular. what she DOES do, is she does everything pretty well. used in the right combinations, this i think is what makes the 38 so deadly. it's also what makes her so hard to learn, because doing the wrong thing, will as you mentioned, cost ya....big time.
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Another item about the 38.....
If your around friendlies the cons will generally come to you first. That equals less hunting to do for a fight. :aok
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If you get really really serious with it. You could join some kind of club.
S.A.P.P. Inquire within
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AARP? :lol
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AARP? :lol
<< has found that in the few months I have been involved with them the group that runs AARP are very inept.
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Yeah, Apperantly they provide great medicare. :aok
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Hey, don't want to start a brand new thread so I'll put my question here.
I just took a read here: http://www.jamesreese.org/hangarflying/Issue6.htm (http://www.jamesreese.org/hangarflying/Issue6.htm) and I found this:
"Some fellows report that their props have a tendency to run away just after they increase power and start down. This is very possible. What actually happens is that due to the rapid acceleration the governing speed of the props does not cut in fast enough. This lag causes the props to start running away and you may experience them running up as much as 3500 RPM. We have found a way to avoid this over-revving. When you first put your nose down before you begin to accelerate, bring the prop governor lever back to about 2600 RPM. Leave it there until your governors take hold; then you can put the props in full low pitch without fear of over-revving."
Was this true for later models of the P-38 and did this happen EVERY time you increased power? It would be a significant disadvantage in combat to have to adjust your RPMs, wait for the governor kick-in and THEN increase throttle.
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despite my comments about calling the p38 a bomber or B38 ( Please dont get me while I lay in bed asleep SAPP :pray) I think she is a great fighter that every now and then I take her up in the DA. I mainly use her in the vertical, which she is superb at doing so and can catch alot of people out...esp when they think hummm p38 nice big easy kill. Another dangerous thing about them that I have found whilst fighting against p38s is when the buggers take off tracers they are even more lethal with the superb gun package she has...you dont know they are trying to hit you at D800 untill they give my dora a nasty oil leak of break some parts of her :D
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despite my comments about calling the p38 a bomber or B38 ( Please dont get me while I lay in bed asleep SAPP :pray) I think she is a great fighter that every now and then I take her up in the DA. I mainly use her in the vertical, which she is superb at doing so and can catch alot of people out...esp when they think hummm p38 nice big easy kill. Another dangerous thing about them that I have found whilst fighting against p38s is when the buggers take off tracers they are even more lethal with the superb gun package she has...you dont know they are trying to hit you at D800 untill they give my dora a nasty oil leak of break some parts of her :D
i wish i could aim without tracers.......