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Title: Test to run......
Post by: Waffle on August 02, 2009, 09:50:26 AM
It's the weekend and I'm not sure if this is/ could be a bug until Hitech checks it out on Monday -  but I wanted to see if anyone else is having this issue....or can replicate it.

I can duplicate it on 2 pcs, both dual core, one ATI / one NVIDIA graphics card...

So far I can only duplicate it part  of the time (1/2?)....but it is showing up.

1. log on, go to a late war arena. Go to a field that's near some action.
2. Fly - use auto climb...
3. Right click map, bring up net status.
4. Watch net status for a sawtooth pattern...if no pattern (alt f4 out, start game and try again) Repeat around 10 times to see if sawtooth shows up.
5. If sawtooth pattern shows up, keep climbing, then crash yourself into the ground.
6. re-up plane after crashing - see if sawtooth pattern is gone.

here's what it looks like in variance:
**note*** I've seen the pattern as high as 1 on variance.

Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: lazydog on August 02, 2009, 10:27:22 AM
waffle i noticed this last nite I've been watching it today and it's the same.
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: lazydog on August 02, 2009, 10:46:45 AM
waffle i noticed that last nite same with a couple sqaudies and i notice the ping is jumping around i never saw that before
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: lazydog on August 02, 2009, 11:05:49 AM
oh sorry about that  :rofl
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: detch01 on August 02, 2009, 11:09:31 AM
I've had this problem both before and after the update when I've forgotten to shut down all unnececssary services. If you're running vista, check your services running against Skuzzy's list in the tech forum and shut down those you don't need and also shut down BITS (Background Intelligent Transfer Service). That cured it for me. AH runs great with all this cleared up.

<edit> by shutting down BITS I mean set it's properties to manual and stop the service. You'll likely have to stop this service every time you play AH after restarting your computer - I do, so I check it every time before starting AH.</edit>

Hope this helps
Cheers,
asw
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: LYNX on August 02, 2009, 12:21:22 PM
I noticed 2 things yesterday.  1) the saw blade effect. 2) Host queue time was very gappy.   In fact I rebooted my cable and PC several times.  The saw blade showed up once but the host queue was intermitent.  Climb out and fighting. 

I knew there was something up when I blasted a con.  There were no hit sprites and the con just pixalated into nowhere.  This caused me to check net stats and noticed this very gappy host queue.  It was after I logged out / in I noticed the saw blade whilst in tower. 

Did several restarts and thought maybe it's my ISP or some poxy hop screwing up.   I'll monitor my connect this evening and get back to you.
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: 5PointOh on August 02, 2009, 01:01:53 PM
Heres what I got waffle...

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z235/nathanyoung1980/ahss3.jpg)

Most of the time its flat...

I noticed 2 things yesterday.  1) the saw blade effect. 2) Host queue time was very gappy.   In fact I rebooted my cable and PC several times.  The saw blade showed up once but the host queue was intermitent.  Climb out and fighting. 

I knew there was something up when I blasted a con.  There were no hit sprites and the con just pixalated into nowhere.  This caused me to check net stats and noticed this very gappy host queue.  It was after I logged out / in I noticed the saw blade whilst in tower. 

Did several restarts and thought maybe it's my ISP or some poxy hop screwing up.   I'll monitor my connect this evening and get back to you.

Done the same as Lynx...blasted red guy..no boom no nothing just the plane disapeared.
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: bj229r on August 02, 2009, 01:17:14 PM
Damnit I want the Romulan disruptor too!
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: mia389 on August 02, 2009, 01:22:38 PM
Ok I ran test 4 times. The 3rd time I got the saw affect. I augered and reuped and it went away.

(http://www13.picfront.org/picture/5NeQra54R/img/TEST.JPG) (http://www.picfront.org/d/5NeQra54R/TEST.JPG)
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: mia389 on August 02, 2009, 01:50:00 PM

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Time of this report: 8/2/2009, 14:53:09
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System Manufacturer: NVIDIA
       System Model: 132-CK-NF79
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             Memory: 2046MB RAM
          Page File: 279MB used, 3655MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
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          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
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      WHQL Logo'd: n/a
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        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
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         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: Lusche on August 02, 2009, 02:16:30 PM
Im one of those with ehavy stutters still, but I couldnt replicate a saw-tooth pattern in flight yet

However, I was getting it once while just sitting in Oclub:

(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9136/oclubsawtooth.jpg)

I immediatley checked connection to this arena with pingplotter, no lost packets or similar troubles


I restarted game and tried it again, but no saw-tooth
But I continued to sit in Oclub, and I noticed I still got heavy stutters & framerate variances:
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5164/oclubstutter.jpg)
Each time a friendly spawned on runway - stutter, even though I cound't see them - but hear.
When I was looking around in the Oclub using my TrackIR  I got stutters again, with a huge framerate drop - same stuff I'm getting inflight.


AMD  64 X2, 2GB
GF 9600GT 512MB
SB Live!
XP SP3
compatibility mode
no detailed terrain or water
stock ah sounds

again, running without compatibility mode removes all thoses issues but the game is unstable then.





Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: lazydog on August 02, 2009, 04:22:53 PM
mines about the same as mia's
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: Waffle on August 02, 2009, 09:18:32 PM
you guys also loosing frames per second when you get the saw tooth? I was loosing around 3-4 fps on my work box...

Lusche looks like you were loosing 9 fps from your screens
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: texastc316 on August 02, 2009, 09:33:34 PM
thanks for hangin with us on the weekend Waffle  :salute
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: Larry on August 02, 2009, 09:45:20 PM
I was always told that the saw tooth like you guys are posting is due to spyware. Is this true?
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: 5PointOh on August 02, 2009, 11:38:32 PM
Waffle, I am loosing about 4-5...Skuzzy should have my DxDiag on file...lol.
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: LYNX on August 02, 2009, 11:52:08 PM
I noticed 2 things yesterday.  1) the saw blade effect. 2) Host queue time was very gappy.   In fact I rebooted my cable and PC several times.  The saw blade showed up once but the host queue was intermitent.  Climb out and fighting. 

I knew there was something up when I blasted a con.  There were no hit sprites and the con just pixalated into nowhere.  This caused me to check net stats and noticed this very gappy host queue.  It was after I logged out / in I noticed the saw blade whilst in tower. 

Did several restarts and thought maybe it's my ISP or some poxy hop screwing up.   I'll monitor my connect this evening and get back to you.


Forgot to mention I tuck some screenies of this.

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/ahss16copy.jpg)

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/ahss15copy.jpg)

To be frank I ain't a clue if this is important when your asking about saw blades.  It just seemed odd to have the larg gaps which after a while would go normal and then revert back to gaps minutes later.

I made a point of watching the net stats again tonight with pretty much the same deal.  Gonna run a different sweeper to see if it makes a difference.
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: warhed on August 03, 2009, 03:12:10 AM
thanks for hangin with us on the weekend Waffle  :salute

They have wi-fi on the beach duh!
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: mia389 on August 03, 2009, 07:43:24 AM
No frame loss I dont think. Looking back on the screen shots I did not have frame rates up so I am not for sure
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: LYNX on August 03, 2009, 09:21:11 AM
Forgot to mention I tuck some screenies of this.

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/ahss16copy.jpg)

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/ahss15copy.jpg)

To be frank I ain't a clue if this is important when your asking about saw blades.  It just seemed odd to have the larg gaps which after a while would go normal and then revert back to gaps minutes later.

I made a point of watching the net stats again tonight with pretty much the same deal.  Gonna run a different sweeper to see if it makes a difference.

Ok..I have an ISP spy / anti virus sweeper that runs every morning.  Only looks at the more harmfull stuff.  Ran a windows optimizer that picked up 1 class 3 cookie.  Ran Ad-Aware SE that picked up 19 class 3 cookies and 3 MRU's. 

System cleaned and cleared.  Restarted the cable and PC.  Read the boards then joined the game.  Went to net stats

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/ahss17copy.jpg)

Logged out / in and saw blade had gone but host queue very gappy.  Jumped in manned ack a couple of times and queue eventually went normal.  Flew a few sorties and queue once again went gappy to normal to gappy.  Asked a squadie about his and was told "gappy" with a few variance down spikes.
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: TwinBoom on August 03, 2009, 07:40:38 PM
ran ur test first is just changing airfields and hitting fly loosing several fps i peg at 1280/1024 75fps
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2244/ahss2.png)


this pic is the auto climb im on 10mg down fios 2 mg up
im also getting the same cyclic micro feeze as widewing has described
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/8047/ahss1.png)


Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: TwinBoom on August 04, 2009, 03:38:08 PM
waffle any clues yet?
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: Waffle on August 04, 2009, 03:56:59 PM
Hitech is looking into it
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: TwinBoom on August 04, 2009, 03:58:26 PM
ty
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: LYNX on August 04, 2009, 09:53:31 PM
Unplugged the power supply from me cable over night so's all the nasties would, if any, drain away back to the server.   :lol  There's no on / off switch.

Restarted cable and PC.  Read the boards and entered game.  Got the saw blades so logged out / in.  Same thing...saw blade.  did some tower hoping and checked again.  Saw blade gone but host queue very gappy.  Monitored it for a few sorties with the same effect as previously reported.  bad to good to bad etc.
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: Agadoon on August 06, 2009, 05:28:00 PM
I had the same problem but much worse, I have to unplug my modem for 2 min., plug back in, everytime prior to playing, for me this just started Sat. night while I was in the DA. Don't know if this will help you all, but it has for me.

Also, thank everyone who posted helpful suggestions about the new patch, its been a trying experience, but day by day working things out!


thanks
Title: Re: Test to run......
Post by: chewiex on August 06, 2009, 06:13:07 PM
I had the same issues, got discoed 5x in the last 2 days. I hadn't gotten discoed but 2x in the last 4 years before now. I think I have fixed my problem today, I un installed the drivers for my ethernet card and re-installed them making sure I had the latest and greatest one. So far, no disco and no "saw-tooth" delays in the net status. Hope that can resolve at least some of everyones network issues.


 :salute
DasChewy