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Title: 2 Luftwaffe photos
Post by: sirvlad on August 02, 2009, 12:18:33 PM
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Title: Re: 2 Luftwaffe photos
Post by: Bino on August 02, 2009, 03:29:50 PM
Thanks for posting!   :salute

Can't really ID the top one beyond guessing *maybe* a Bf-109G-6/Trop, based on the dust filter.  I *think* I see the gun-breach "beule" in front of the canopy.  Can't make out those two little mounts for the umbrella to shade the cockpit, so maybe even a G-5...?  Don't see a Mediterranean theater white stripe around the tail, but that was often missing.  Any botanists out there recognize the trees?  :lol

The lower one of the FW's seems like it could be a picture of two fairly early versions.  They both have cooling slots rather than adjustable louvers behind the engines, and I *think* I see the early version of the antenna fairing on the vertical tail.  Can't make out any gun detail on the leading edge of the wing, but I'm pretty sure I see the bulged wing root for a MG/151 on the plane in the foreground.  So I'd hazard a guess that these are FW-190A-3's.

Where did these shots come from, Sirvlad?  Looks like you have the originals.
Title: Re: 2 Luftwaffe photos
Post by: CHAPPY on August 02, 2009, 07:36:26 PM
 :salute
Title: Re: 2 Luftwaffe photos
Post by: Scherf on August 02, 2009, 09:24:39 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: 2 Luftwaffe photos
Post by: Shuffler on August 02, 2009, 09:26:53 PM
Interesting pics vlad.
Title: Re: 2 Luftwaffe photos
Post by: Sincraft on August 02, 2009, 11:34:57 PM
Thanks for posting!   :salute

Can't really ID the top one beyond guessing *maybe* a Bf-109G-6/Trop, based on the dust filter.  I *think* I see the gun-breach "beule" in front of the canopy.  Can't make out those two little mounts for the umbrella to shade the cockpit, so maybe even a G-5...?  Don't see a Mediterranean theater white stripe around the tail, but that was often missing.  Any botanists out there recognize the trees?  :lol

The lower one of the FW's seems like it could be a picture of two fairly early versions.  They both have cooling slots rather than adjustable louvers behind the engines, and I *think* I see the early version of the antenna fairing on the vertical tail.  Can't make out any gun detail on the leading edge of the wing, but I'm pretty sure I see the bulged wing root for a MG/151 on the plane in the foreground.  So I'd hazard a guess that these are FW-190A-3's.

Where did these shots come from, Sirvlad?  Looks like you have the originals.


top 109e
Title: Re: 2 Luftwaffe photos
Post by: Banshee7 on August 02, 2009, 11:36:47 PM
Nah it's not an E...Nose looks more like a G, plus it has a hub cannon.
Title: Re: 2 Luftwaffe photos
Post by: sirvlad on August 03, 2009, 01:29:43 PM
Some of the photo`s I post are from my own collection,and some I just come across on the internet.I buy alot of them off e-bay I have several hundred various photo`s.Thanks for looking I`ll post a few more soon,wasn`t sure if anyone had an interest in seeing them.
Title: Re: 2 Luftwaffe photos
Post by: Motherland on August 03, 2009, 05:42:44 PM
top 109e
No where close.
I have to agree with Bino on the G-6/Trop... even thought you can really see the humps, throughout production, it seems that factories changed the stylization of the camo jobs, beyond changing colors according to RLM guidelines... the 109 definitely has a G-6 'feel' to it.
Title: Re: 2 Luftwaffe photos
Post by: Amsoil21 on August 03, 2009, 05:54:40 PM
Some of the photo`s I post are from my own collection,and some I just come across on the internet.I buy alot of them off e-bay I have several hundred various photo`s.Thanks for looking I`ll post a few more soon,wasn`t sure if anyone had an interest in seeing them.
allways nice to see some unique pictures, ty
Title: Re: 2 Luftwaffe photos
Post by: sirvlad on August 03, 2009, 06:23:44 PM
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Title: Re: 2 Luftwaffe photos
Post by: TwinEng on August 03, 2009, 06:26:31 PM
Many people do not realize that the Germans were so desperate for planes during the war, that they even pressed captured enemy planes into service.

They were especially found of American planes, which they highly respected.   

Here are some US planes that you should recognize, which the Nazis put into service.   Can you imagine what it would be like for an American Airman to have seen one of these in the skies flying against them??

This is pretty bizarre looking stuff:


(http://www.luftarchiv.de/beute/usa/b_1713.jpg)


(http://www.luftarchiv.de/beute/usa/b_24.jpg)


(http://www.luftarchiv.de/beute/usa/dc_3a.jpg)


(http://www.luftarchiv.de/beute/usa/p38.jpg)


(http://www.luftarchiv.de/beute/usa/ami2.jpg)
Title: Re: 2 Luftwaffe photos
Post by: Motherland on August 03, 2009, 07:16:03 PM
Many people do not realize that the Germans were so desperate for planes during the war, that they even pressed captured enemy planes into service.

They were especially found of American planes, which they highly respected.   

Here are some US planes that you should recognize, which the Nazis put into service.   Can you imagine what it would be like for an American Airman to have seen one of these in the skies flying against them??
A DC-3 in with NSDAP markings= an American aircraft pressed into service with the Luftwaffe?

American aircraft were used by KG200, but to say they were pushed into service due to lack of aircraft is completely false.


The Luftwaffe was more stressed for fuel and pilots than it ever was for aircraft.
Title: Re: 2 Luftwaffe photos
Post by: humble on August 03, 2009, 07:39:07 PM
No American or British planes saw service outside of either KG200 or in a clandestine role (Italians flew a pair of 38's in US markings for example to spy on bomber streams). As already noted the Germans had more planes then pilots from 1944 on....