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Title: Shade accounts....
Post by: Tmac7 on August 03, 2009, 01:04:29 AM
Well Was just in orange areana and someone i won't mention names so i don't get Ruled by skuzzy was on Bishop side then announced on Channel 200 "Bish bombers headed to A7 NE Sec something something" anyway I know spying was common in WW2 but this is Bull crap, because then he switched back to the rooks and came and engaged us. I've seen other players which names i won't mention ether but shouldn't shades be considered cheating?

I know there is no rules against multiple accounts but theres no way to make a rule because people like TonyJoey and others have 2 accounts because their dad plays the game too. All these shades are ruining the game and Tick me off. I try to keep my cool on 200 because i know i'll get Text banned if i use profanity etc etc.

Anyone else hate shades and spies that tell other sides information and will ether up their shade or switch sides. Its the most annoying thing and is making missions harder and harder keeping missions between squads and secret planning. Also last min base changes which cause problems with people who wait on runway with other planes of their choices.

I know i'll probably be hit with "WHINE" and get over it kind of things but its very frustrating. I don't know if it is for anyone else but it is for me. :furious :furious

Hitech Please do something, Maybe if we take Screen shots and recordings and send them in with proof you could bann them :D or delete their shades.

Thanks and <S>

-Tmacc73
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Erkel on August 03, 2009, 01:25:55 AM
Like life, you live and learn.  Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

When in doubt about shades, check their K/D ratio compared to other kill stats.  Then just remember who they are.  Saw one guy the other day, his K/D ratio under his attack score for air kills was 25.+ yet his Fighter K/D ratio was comparable to anyone elses.

Tell me that isnt a clue to shade kills.  Just too bad he didnt have those kills under Fighter score cause it didnt help his rank a bit.  :x
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Tmac7 on August 03, 2009, 01:28:37 AM
Well i know they have shades i've caught them but can't get the proof and nothing will be done if i have proof  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: kilz on August 03, 2009, 01:38:20 AM
Tmac auto film all your sorties, if you dont want to save the film you click cancel and it does not even save it to your computer. this way you have the proof and believe me i use to run a shade back in the day for scoring and HTC does take care of bizz when it comes to that. if you have the proof and email it to them and they will take care of it. might not be right away but in a week or two they will find out both accounts
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Larry on August 03, 2009, 01:43:21 AM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: kilz on August 03, 2009, 01:46:35 AM
:rofl

shut up fool or i will shoot my BEEEEEEEEEEEEBBBBBBBBBBEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS at you
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: StokesAk on August 03, 2009, 01:47:44 AM
People with shades are stupid. They are willing to spend another $15 bucks a month just to have thier score a little better. I wouldnt pay any attention to them.
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Tmac7 on August 03, 2009, 01:50:55 AM
Just sick of them busting my missions  :furious
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: texastc316 on August 03, 2009, 02:03:22 AM
Futures so bright, they gotta where shades  :D
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Bruv119 on August 03, 2009, 02:06:19 AM
Just sick of them busting my missions  :furious

do a proper mission with a combined force of bombers / fighter cap and GV's and you won't fail.  Hopefully you will have uppers and defeat them accordingly.

the amount of failed NOE's is mostly to blame on the mission planners lack of skill and the pilots that follow them.   All it needs is ONE guy to get up in a fighter when the base starts flashing and they are done.

Is the WAR really that important that fields have to be taken with 20+ guys all on the deck so that the enemy has no chance to defend whatsoever??  and you find yourself complaining about getting opposition in a MULTIPLAYER online game.  

As far as i'm concerned it cancels out lame dweeby crap with lame dweeby crap.  I dont support either.

To take a field you just need a good group of guys who know what they are doing and time it like clockwork.
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: TwinTail on August 03, 2009, 02:26:06 AM
This all started with me saying to another player in the area over 200 that there was 2, then 3, then 4 sets of b24's lifting from a7 and he should hurry and ram em to get a few more kills (meant jokingly because in my previous sortie he had gotten a lucky collision that ended with my tail being lost).

The person in question is not my shade nor am I his. Tmacc no matter how much you would like to prove that, you cant. People for years have been screaming shade at me and TB because our ID's are so similar but its hard to run a shade when the accounts IP's are located in different states.

Tonight is no different, just some over active people with hot heads. Yea i got sick of ENY and switched to rook with Larry and we upped a couple sorties and then logged for the night.

If theres any more accusations id love to hear them but theres nothing to prove or disprove so bring it on.

Also



IN


TT


Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: stodd on August 03, 2009, 02:33:56 AM
Twintail, your secret spy decoder ring is in the mail. Also you only get one so dont lose it like Steve keeps on doing.
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: TwinTail on August 03, 2009, 02:42:49 AM
Well you need to get steve into a 109 or something then, hes got to much room in his P51 to lose stuf in under the seat and behind the peddals   :D

TT
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: warhed on August 03, 2009, 03:05:16 AM
TwinTail got fussy because he stopped his 38 in midair directly infront of me (don't tell him he was dead anyways  :lol), he then made a joke about how I should go ram some buffs who just upped.  Hardly enough evidence to call me a shade of his, and even less of a reason to mass report him.
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Steve on August 03, 2009, 03:14:04 AM
Well you need to get steve into a 109 or something then, hes got to much room in his P51 to lose stuf in under the seat and behind the peddals   :D

TT

 :lol
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: oTRALFZo on August 03, 2009, 03:33:41 AM
do a proper mission with a combined force of bombers / fighter cap and GV's and you won't fail.  Hopefully you will have uppers and defeat them accordingly.

the amount of failed NOE's is mostly to blame on the mission planners lack of skill and the pilots that follow them.   All it needs is ONE guy to get up in a fighter when the base starts flashing and they are done.

Is the WAR really that important that fields have to be taken with 20+ guys all on the deck so that the enemy has no chance to defend whatsoever??  and you find yourself complaining about getting opposition in a MULTIPLAYER online game.  

As far as i'm concerned it cancels out lame dweeby crap with lame dweeby crap.  I dont support either.

To take a field you just need a good group of guys who know what they are doing and time it like clockwork.
+1
Lotsa garbage on 200 because a NOE got busted in orange. Funny thing is that there were a good 50 planes in that mission that were basicly slaughtered. It went on and on how some ppl are "cheats" and "unsportsmanlike" to bust up the mission. :noid.
There is nothing wrong with wanting to take bases. It brings a competetive edge to the game. There is nothing wrong with flying NOE. There is nothing wrong with flying with 20+ guys. BUT..when your 20+ guys want to take a base flying NOE, LAME. Hats off to the guys that thwart those kinds of actions.
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Tmac7 on August 03, 2009, 08:00:25 AM
This all started with me saying to another player in the area over 200 that there was 2, then 3, then 4 sets of b24's lifting from a7 and he should hurry and ram em to get a few more kills (meant jokingly because in my previous sortie he had gotten a lucky collision that ended with my tail being lost).

The person in question is not my shade nor am I his. Tmacc no matter how much you would like to prove that, you cant. People for years have been screaming shade at me and TB because our ID's are so similar but its hard to run a shade when the accounts IP's are located in different states.

Tonight is no different, just some over active people with hot heads. Yea i got sick of ENY and switched to rook with Larry and we upped a couple sorties and then logged for the night.

If theres any more accusations id love to hear them but theres nothing to prove or disprove so bring it on.

Also



IN


TT




What you did wasn't a shade account but i've seen other shades you just did a idiotic move and then YOU switch sides and up at the base we were going too
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: groundfeeder on August 03, 2009, 08:07:26 AM
Its the only way the bish and nits have a hope!
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Lusche on August 03, 2009, 08:07:55 AM
The combination of certain maps / base ownerships and certain landgrab squads often makes predicting NOEs quite easy.

If you play for some time, you will identify some patterns. Once the enemy has started to get one or two bases, I check the roster to see which enemy squads and leaders are online, take a look at the map and start to guesstimate.

Some squads started to alternate their attacks between both enemy countries to prevent this, giving me more time to make another pot of tea  :)
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Guppy35 on August 03, 2009, 08:20:09 AM
What you did wasn't a shade account but i've seen other shades you just did a idiotic move and then YOU switch sides and up at the base we were going too

Based on what you have written in your Sig, you should be happy folks were there to meet you.  You want a fight right?

Lighten up Francis.  It's just a game.  No one really dies, planes are free.
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: crazierthanu on August 03, 2009, 08:25:52 AM
  No one really dies, planes are free.
Thanks god for that  :D
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Oleg on August 03, 2009, 08:26:52 AM
There is nothing wrong with wanting to take bases. It brings a competetive edge to the game. There is nothing wrong with flying NOE. There is nothing wrong with flying with 20+ guys. BUT..when your 20+ guys want to take a base flying NOE, LAME. Hats off to the guys that thwart those kinds of actions.

+1
I hope sometimes HTC will do something to prevent this. For example, if there are more than 5/10/15/other_number planes close enough to each other, they are shown on radar regardless of alt (bar included).
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: TonyJoey on August 03, 2009, 09:18:22 AM
Well you need to get steve into a 109 or something then, hes got to much room in his P51 to lose stuf in under the seat and behind the peddals   :D

TT

Not when he's got the piano onboard. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Anaxogoras on August 03, 2009, 09:24:37 AM
So someone announced the presence of your horde and made sure that you'd see combat, and you complain? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: LYNX on August 03, 2009, 09:38:21 AM
Switching countries to even the fight or escape ENY is OK in my book.  Where it's not OK and some what low is using info to sink Cv's or rack up the kills.  Especially if the guy is better than 90% he's facing.

It's like putting bread on the lawn and blasting a sparrow with both barrels of a shot gun.....real skillful like.
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Vudak on August 03, 2009, 10:18:50 AM
do a proper mission with a combined force of bombers / fighter cap and GV's and you won't fail.  Hopefully you will have uppers and defeat them accordingly.

the amount of failed NOE's is mostly to blame on the mission planners lack of skill and the pilots that follow them.   All it needs is ONE guy to get up in a fighter when the base starts flashing and they are done.


Bruv pretty much nailed it.  Many squads and people pride themselves on teamwork*, but very few pull it off. 

*Note* "Teamwork" does not mean yelling at random people to do what you tell them.  "Teamwork" means assembling a group of like-minded players, and each of them voluntarily saying, "This is what we want to do, and this is how we're going to do it," and then executing. 
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: waystin2 on August 03, 2009, 10:22:53 AM
That's right Priscilla, I said shades... :rolleyes:
(http://www.completelybonkers.co.uk/images/smiff%20elvis%20shades.jpg)
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Slate on August 03, 2009, 10:30:07 AM
  Some of the most fun I've had is the MOM missions where they knew we were coming! Maybe if some would fly missions at a good altitude instead of being helpless on the deck with an NOE more success would be had as the enemy tried to achieve your altitude. Imagine if we tried to bomb Germany at 500 ft.  :O
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Tmac7 on August 03, 2009, 10:39:18 AM
No it wasn't a horde we were otw to drop a base not wanting much resistances the Twintail announced on 200 where we were then switched sides and upped at that base.
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: StokesAk on August 03, 2009, 11:47:15 AM
On the aspect of switching sides.

Yes some people do switch sides to spy or something for thier score sadly. But in general people dont switch sides for this, they juust do it so they donw have to fly as far to get shot down in thier cartoon plane.

Remember its just a game if some people want to waste thier time and money on something frowned upon then let them it not youir fault they do it. i  would just think "Well better luck next time".
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 03, 2009, 12:13:19 PM
TwinTail got fussy because he stopped his 38 in midair directly infront of me (don't tell him he was dead anyways  :lol), he then made a joke about how I should go ram some buffs who just upped.  Hardly enough evidence to call me a shade of his, and even less of a reason to mass report him.

I shot him down once, roped him rather easily.  He called me a P-38 noob afterwards and told me to go to the TA.   :rofl


ack-ack
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Tmac7 on August 03, 2009, 12:16:34 PM
warhed i didnt call you his shade.... and he said ROOKS 24's inbound to A7 NE
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: CAP1 on August 03, 2009, 12:36:38 PM
Just sick of them busting my missions  :furious

tmac........take a more positive outlook on that.


they're reporting your missions............so what they're REALLY doing in essence, is giving you many many more targets to shoot down.
 
 what you can do also, if you're losing buffs........get the guys on a mission freq., and have fighters up from a different base. one that the spy dudette won't know about. they'll be waiting above when the attack starts on you.

 think positive dude!!!! :aok
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Rawghh on August 03, 2009, 12:45:42 PM
Just sick of them busting my missions  :furious

More fun if they do get busted.. think of the furballs  :t
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Madkow on August 03, 2009, 01:20:30 PM
No it wasn't a horde we were otw to drop a base not wanting much resistances the Twintail announced on 200 where we were then switched sides and upped at that base.

I know your only 12 tmac but they didn't teach you what a hord is in school? :huh Squeek squeek squeek :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Tmac7 on August 03, 2009, 01:38:11 PM
squeeker? 12? huh?

Sure thing bud what ever you say
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Shuffler on August 03, 2009, 01:46:14 PM
Just sick of them busting my missions  :furious

Look at the bright side. Your looking for a fight and they provide it. Shoot them down.

That is assuming you were not actually just looking to fly somewhere and attack an undefended base.
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: StokesAk on August 03, 2009, 01:49:32 PM
I heard rumors that someone reported TwinTail. Now he is a week without text...............
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Tmac7 on August 03, 2009, 01:54:17 PM
RUmors? :P

And I wasn't looking for undefended just not a 262 or planes 10k and ready
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Larry on August 03, 2009, 02:09:15 PM
I hear Tmacc does a load of whining when you bomb him in TT with a 234. I also hear he whines when you get out of a 234 and into a M4 then kill him again in TT. Me thinks all tmacc does is whine when he dies.  :noid
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Delirium on August 03, 2009, 02:09:39 PM
I don't understand the complaining about spying, heck I was accused just last night when I switched to a team with fewer numbers.

Some of you take the game WAY too seriously and need to get some fresh air.
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Masherbrum on August 03, 2009, 02:13:05 PM
I don't understand the complaining about spying, heck I was accused just last night when I switched to a team with fewer numbers.

Some of you take the game WAY too seriously and need to get some fresh air.

 :rofl
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Tmac7 on August 03, 2009, 02:47:48 PM
I get plenty of fresh air sir. And Larry come into the town next time and see how long you last :x
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Vudak on August 03, 2009, 02:51:51 PM
I don't understand the complaining about spying, heck I was accused just last night when I switched to a team with fewer numbers.

Some of you take the game WAY too seriously and need to get some fresh air.

Yeah but that's because you didn't save the CV  :mad:  :furious
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Dadsguns on August 03, 2009, 02:54:40 PM
I don't understand the complaining about spying, heck I was accused just last night when I switched to a team with fewer numbers.

Some of you take the game WAY too seriously and need to get some fresh air.

(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj131/bayoubeach/busted.jpg)



 :rofl
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Fianna on August 03, 2009, 03:50:21 PM
This thread makes me want to start playing again. Ch 200 is the best entertainment around.
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: StokesAk on August 03, 2009, 03:52:06 PM
Better than cable TV, and you get 100 channels on that thing.
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Steve on August 03, 2009, 03:52:57 PM
Offline missions never get busted.
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: BiPoLaR on August 03, 2009, 03:55:14 PM
I don't understand the complaining about spying, heck I was accused just last night when I switched to a team with fewer numbers.

Some of you take the game WAY too seriously and need to get some fresh air.

And woman, along with a social life  :aok
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: usvi on August 03, 2009, 03:57:43 PM
More fun if they do get busted.. think of the furballs  :t
(http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Science/Images/drooling-homer-simpson.jpg)
MMMMMMM....Furballs
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Larry on August 03, 2009, 04:52:54 PM
I get plenty of fresh air sir. And Larry come into the town next time and see how long you last :x

No need to go into town when people come to my spawn. People like you wait in the same spot for hours just waiting for a tank to come by so you can make yourself look good. Our GV battle you had the drop on me because you where there facing our spawn. Even with that drop you failed to kill me with your two shots then when I killed you you said:


Tmacc73:200: larry you took 3 shots to turret
Tmacc73:200: wat a friggen dweeb


Not once did you not have something to say on 200 after I killed you. In fact after a while my squaddies and a few people I was flying with were saying 'just killed tmac, wait for it....." because they knew it was coming.
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: uptown on August 03, 2009, 06:36:57 PM
Have you guys not tuned to the "help" channel? I was watching for several hours these kids talking about going here and there on bombing runs. Low and behold their coming to my field :x. Not much else to do but hit auto climb, go mix a drink and wait for stupid to arrive.  :devil
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: stodd on August 03, 2009, 06:42:08 PM
Have you guys not tuned to the "help" channel? I was watching for several hours these kids talking about going here and there on bombing runs. Low and behold their coming to my field :x. Not much else to do but hit auto climb, go mix a drink and wait for stupid to arrive.  :devil
I was wondering how you were always waiting for me.  :mad:
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: TwinEng on August 03, 2009, 06:48:29 PM
do a proper mission with a combined force of bombers / fighter cap and GV's and you won't fail.  Hopefully you will have uppers and defeat them accordingly.

the amount of failed NOE's is mostly to blame on the mission planners lack of skill and the pilots that follow them.   All it needs is ONE guy to get up in a fighter when the base starts flashing and they are done.



Very well said.

Planning a good mission is not rocket science.  I am continually amazed at how many missions and base takes I see attempted, without any real regard for effective strategy.

How many times have you seen a CV group sent towards a base that still has its ords up?   Doing that is pretty much suicide.

How many GV missions do you see sent in without any air support at all?   That is pretty dumb as well.  At the minimum a couple of fighters should be sent in to take out ords and harass enemy planes.   Even better, take out the VH as well.   And if you really want to do it right, take out the bomber hangers so they cannot up IL-3's and B-25H's.  

The problem, though, is that doing all of the above takes organizational skills, and not just brains alone.   You need to be able to rally together enough people to get the job done, and effectively coordinate the attack.


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Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: crims on August 03, 2009, 06:49:23 PM
This Thread needs to be changed to ....... I like Tool shedding undefended bases and he spoiled it. Not sure what this has to do with Shades  :cool:
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: TwinTail on August 03, 2009, 07:04:52 PM
Quote
This Thread needs to be changed to ....... I like Tool shedding undefended bases and he spoiled it. Not sure what this has to do with Shades 

Thank you and good night  :salute

TT
Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: Anodizer on August 03, 2009, 07:09:35 PM
Look at the bright side. Your looking for a fight and they provide it. Shoot them down.

That is assuming you were not actually just looking to fly somewhere and attack an undefended base.

Me thinks it was the latter.... :D

Title: Re: Shade accounts....
Post by: TwinBoom on August 03, 2009, 07:12:39 PM
i heard shades carry VD