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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: wrongwayric on August 03, 2009, 08:49:58 AM
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Ok i want some input on a system that will play the game smoothly. Most of my play will be wifi based so it has to have that capability, even though occasionaly i can play hard wired.
Price range would be $1000 to $1500. Also it MUST be an AMD based system! My current laptop is Intel based and suxs to play the game.
So throw some suggestions up and i'll take a look at em. All help greatly appreciated. :aok
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As always I'd recommend a desktop before a laptop. Even a desktop can have wireless capabilities.
On the other hand if it does have to be a laptop this one might be a good buy. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834101176
Keep in mind you could build something better in desktop form for less then a grand easy.
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Oh, forgot to mention i'm an OTR truck driver, so laptop is my primary means of getting my "fix" of AH while on the road. :D I have a home system that rocks, i think i fire it up every 6 months or so. :cry To busy paying bills to play at home anymore.
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I wouldn't throw Intel under the bus. You're problems are most likely memory and/or video chip based.
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I just got a Studio 15 and it rocks. I got a Core 2 Duo T6600, Vista (ugh), 1080p monitor (for designing), 4GB RAM, 320gb HDD, 256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570, but you can get 512 for the game. For 1-1.5 grand you can go crazy.
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Just so you know, you can format the hard-drive and install any Windows Operating System of your choice on there. Just be careful, it will probably void your warranty. I Just bought a new Laptop and instead of erasing Vista I repartitioned the Hard Drive using Easus Partition Manager (Thanks BaldEagl!). Afterward I installed Linux on one of the empty partitions then installed Windows XP onto the other. Great deal!
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There's basically not much to it.
Just make sure your laptop is
a) Not Acer
b) Has a mobile graphics of GT130 nvidia or HD4650 ATI or preferably higher (cost will skyrocket with higher end options)
c) Has a dual core cpu with minimum of 2 Ghz clock speed. Intel better than AMD.
d) Has a minimum of 2 gigabytes of ram if using Vista
e) Has the option for a free windows 7 update
I just bought my wife a HP nv6 laptop with AMD Turion x2, HD4650 graphics, 4gigs ram and tested AH2 current patch with it.
Every video option set to default, 70fps in tower. Every video option maxed out (except antialiasing) 35fps standing otr and 20fps while firing guns offline. Machine cost about a 1000 bucks.
A good site to compare laptop graphics: Mobile GPU performance chart (http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html)
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I wouldn't throw Intel under the bus. You're problems are most likely memory and/or video chip based.
No doubt!!! Last month I bought a HP pavillion dv1270us for my wife.. Only fair since I've spent a boatload
of cash on game stuff in the last year... its a 17inch 1440x900res, P8600 2.4Ghz 1066fsb, 4gig of DDR2 800,
320gig HD, 9600M GT Dedicated gfx card, BluRay Multidisc.... eSATA port, HDMI output, Gigabit LAN...
$ 1049 at Newegg brand new, no refurb! And its upgradable too!!!
It came with Vista Ultimate 64 and all the HP bloatware, but we took it to a good computer guy and he trimmed
all the useless crap away, and tweaked it just a little.. Man, that sucker works GOOD!!! Boots fast, plays Bluerays
on our HDTV, Does everything we throw at it no prob!!! And yes I tested the game on it, no probs!!!
LOL, no she doesn't play AHII....! I was just curious if it would run the new version.. It does, just fine!!!
I think it was a great deal, and She's happy as hell with it too!!!
RC
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I always recommend cyberpowerpc.com to these threads as that is where I got mine and I know several have PM'ed me saying they have gotten their laptops from them after I recommended them.
Their laptops are all gaming laptops and handle AH very well. I got mine through them for $747 but they no longer produce my model. I got it with a dual core AMD, nvidia 7600, 2 GB ram, 15.4" screen, etc. It runs AH very well with all graphics and high res etc.
With that money that you are willing to spend you can get their higher end laptops with dual core and dual SLI cards.
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Go to ASUS's website, under products choose Notebooks. Once there you can choose the performance level you seeking. They have some that have scores on 3DMark06 in excess of 14000. I am thinking if the system/laptop will score at 10k or higher you should be good to go with AH.
TD
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Cyberpowerpc has all Intel based systems. Not an option as all my experience with Intel and AH has been bad. :(
Newegg has some that are appealing.
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Cyberpowerpc has all Intel based systems. Not an option as all my experience with Intel and AH has been bad. :(
Newegg has some that are appealing.
If you are quickly discarding Intel platforms, buy an AMD and be done with it.
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Well I can't say that about Intel and AH...AMD on the other hand was a pita with everything else when I had it...BUT to each his own. My wifes ASUS laptop will run EVERYTHING and I just bought it a little over 2 months ago for $701 @ Best Buy (out the door) and it wasn't pre-loaded with a bunch of crap other than Vista Home Premium 64 bit. She has 3GB of RAM with a Dual Core Intel with a 340GB HDD and a lightscribe DVD.
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If your current Laptop has an Intel Pentium or Celeron processor it would easily explain your awful experience with Intel. Intel's Duo-Core is a MAJOR step up and more than defeats ANYTHING AMD has to offer.
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<snip> Also it MUST be an AMD based system! My current laptop is Intel based and suxs to play the game.<snip>
I am thinking you are talking about the video chip being an Intel video device. Intel Multi-core Cpu's are far less problematic and also faster, clock for clock, than AMD.
Yes, the Intel video chips are junk. Yes, laptop companies love that part. It is CHEAP!
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Go to ASUS's website, under products choose Notebooks. Once there you can choose the performance level you seeking. They have some that have scores on 3DMark06 in excess of 14000. I am thinking if the system/laptop will score at 10k or higher you should be good to go with AH.
TD
Except 14k points = 2.5-3k dollars.
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Forgot to mention that her laptop has an Nvidia chip for the graphics in the system.
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Except 14k points = 2.5-3k dollars.
Not always... retired laptops can be much less expensive they when they were mainstream.
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Yes it's an intel pentium dual core and so far has been the worst sytem i've ever had the pleasure to try to play AH on. :frown:
I've had all AMD based systems with NVIDIA graphics up to this point and have never run into the problems i have with the INTEL system.
Sure intel might be faster ect. ...but what type of headache can i look forward to to make it work correctly?
I expect any system i purchase to be able to play the game out of the box, not spending 3 weeks just logging in because of bloat ware, norton garbage, ect. being installed on it.
I'm seriously looking into having it built to custom specs and skipping all the bloat ware hassels ect. that all the big box systems come with.
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You can nix whatever programs you want on start up. If you are as brand biased as I think you are, why even bring it up for discussion? Not trying to be rude, just stating fact. It seems you had you mind made up from the OP and throughout, regardless of things brought up, you're sticking to your guns.
Home Theater is my serious hobby and I've helped many folks throughout the years. I refuse to help those who aren't willing to hear a few brands and decide for themselves. Some have "gone against me, because I didn't pick a brand they liked" and ALLof them have come back saying: "I f**ked up and I should have listened to you." Which is why I only help folks that WANT to "learn, need assistance and are free of bias". Folks that have bias are simply impossible to please.
What I don't understand is why you just don't go out and buy an AMD Laptop?
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Well as to why i don't just "go out and buy an AMD" is because i wanted the input. I'm not saying you can not convince me to try another INTEL but i am stating that i've had bad luck with them. I guess i should say that i would be more comfortable with an AMD based system as that is what i am the most familiar with.
I will say the the Pentium based laptop i have now was more of an impulse/price buy. It was to cheap to turn down and other than the sad performance with AH i really can not say i have much to complain about.
On the plus side, when i buy the new laptop my niece gets this one for free to use at school. :aok
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Sounds to me like you are blaming Intel for all the bloat an OEM added to the computer. I hate to tell you this, but OEM's also do that to AMD as well, but that seems to be a bit irrlevant. Also note, you are talking about the old Pentium CPU's. The Core 2 CPU's just blew away AMD and it took them over a year to come back with something close to competitive and they are still, clock-for-clock, slower than Intel.
The downside of AMD is the bug we (and other software companies) hit which preclude running on more than one core at a time. It is a performance limitation. It will exacerbate stuttering. So, from my perspective, I cannot, in good faith, recommend AMD. We have limited reports that AMD may have fixed the problem, but that has only been a few people reporting it.
I am not trying to convince you to go with Intel. I understand preferential buying. I would say go with AMD as well, because no matter how much better Intel is, you will find something wrong with it and that kind of misery is simply not worth giving up buying what you already want to buy. I just think you have not been staying in touch with the advances Intel made in the CPU area from the old Pentium days and are using old out of date information to make a current day purchase decision.