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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Zuum on August 04, 2009, 12:50:11 PM
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Whoa....I always knew, my Tigers are second hand pieces but this is a little too much :rofl
Take a look at this short film:
http://www.rubricum.com/files/wonderghi.ahf (http://www.rubricum.com/files/wonderghi.ahf)
Just few pings of Il-2 blows it up. No earlier damage. Tiger was fresh up from VH.
Really, there must be something badly wrong with the damage modelling...
:confused:
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I hate IL2's
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Really, there must be something badly wrong with the damage modelling...
How so? He shot at less than 200yards into your top armor...
Let me quote Tony Williams: (http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/tankbusters.htm)
The powerful 37x195 ammunition is quoted as penetrating 48mm / 500m / 90 degrees, enough to pose a threat to the side or rear armour of virtually any tank.
Tiger has top armor of 25mm only.
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The top armor of the Tiger I was only 25 mm thick.
Edit: Lusche beat me to it. :)
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How so? He shot at less than 200yards into your top armor...
Let me quote Tony Williams: (http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/tankbusters.htm)
Tiger has top armor of 25mm only.
Lusche at that rate,it could shoot throught 2 tigers...... :devil
Well almost!
:salute
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It had 25 mm of armor underneath too, so no. ;)
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How so? He shot at less than 200yards into your top armor...
Let me quote Tony Williams: (http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/tankbusters.htm)
Tiger has top armor of 25mm only.
I have done the same thing(with Il-2 against tigers) looooooots of times without any effort. Pnzrs are pretty easy to cork with Il-2 but Tiger is "nuthing" :rolleyes:
Thatīs why I wonder...
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Post a film of that?
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I have done the same thing(with Il-2 against tigers) looooooots of times without any effort. Pnzrs are pretty easy to cork with Il-2 but Tiger is "nuthing" :rolleyes:
Thatīs why I wonder...
Learn from the film you posted. Though it looks a bit weir due to lag, you can see Ghi is getting very close and approaching quite steep.
If you have mastered that and are looking for the next challenge, take a Hurri 2D. :)
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Bah, what happened to the old days of upping a Yak for some tank busting?
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You mean other than that the NS37 is an HE shell?
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Bah, what happened to the old days of upping a Yak for some tank busting?
I still do once in a while.
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If you have mastered that and are looking for the next challenge, take a Hurri 2D. :)
People still fly em? ;)
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Strange. Ive never seen film of a tank kill without being able to see the actual hits in slow mo that caused the kill.
I know GHI is real good in an IL2 and no doubt killed it in one pass. But I slowed down the film and didnt see one hit and I looked from several angles.
Heres a more typical attack on a Tiger. It took 3 passes of actually hitting him. He was running full speed on very sloped terrain, and I had enemy fighters to think about. But you can see all the yellow to red money shots it took to kill him.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWSy-FvCuBU
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Strange. Ive never seen film of a tank kill without being able to see the actual hits in slow mo that caused the kill.
I know GHI is real good in an IL2 and no doubt killed it in one pass. But I slowed down the film and didnt see one hit and I looked from several angles.
Here you have a pretty good example of what I explained earlier in H&T forum. It's lag. We can only see how things looked on Zuum's FE (screen), as it is his film.
Zuum is located in Finland. I'd guess hes having a ping time anywhere from 150-220ms. GHi may have 30-60ms perhaps. Both add up. That's enough to result in a noticeable disparity between both player's screens.
Would GHI post his film, you would see the hits.
People still fly em? ;)
I try to get a few kills in it each tour, but with Wirbels all around, I have rarely the opportunity.
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You mean other than that the NS37 is an HE shell?
Iv turreted my share of panzers with the yak. Remember that most of the takes we have don't even have an inch of armor on the top of their turret.
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Iv turreted my share of panzers with the yak. Remember that most of the takes we have don't even have an inch of armor on the top of their turret.
I obliterated a wirble with a Yak once.... Once.
Golden BB.
Boy was I surprised. :O
wrongway
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I know I have pissed a few Tiger drivers off with the 75mm gun on the B-25.....
:rock
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You mean other than that the NS37 is an HE shell?
Been awhile since I tried it since I mostly stick to dog fighting in my Zeke these days. Although I do know it will kill Panzers, Ostwinds, and basically anything but a Tiger. Might even be able to kill a Tiger but I was never that good. This was all before the Whirble was introduced though...
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I know it can. According to a story I heard long ago (that I've never been to sure of), Hispanos had a one-off and killed a Tiger. I'd still rather have an AP or at least a mixed round to do it, though.
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If you hit a 25mm steel plate from, say, 60 deg angle the effective thickness is a bit more than 25mm, of course, but there is also a greater chance of the energy being deflected away from the line of trajectory increasing the chance of ricocheting.
I'd also imagine cast armour and face hardened plate to act differently in such situation.
-C+
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I have done the same thing(with Il-2 against tigers) looooooots of times without any effort. Pnzrs are pretty easy to cork with Il-2 but Tiger is "nuthing" :rolleyes:
Thatīs why I wonder...
But you were just crying that it was the modeling. If it's the modleing you'd have the same effect. Get your whines straight.
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I have done the same thing(with Il-2 against tigers) looooooots of times without any effort. Pnzrs are pretty easy to cork with Il-2 but Tiger is "nuthing" :rolleyes:
Thatīs why I wonder...
Since the update to 37mm cannon, which was tour 105, you havnt killed one Tiger in an IL2. Not one!
Not under game name Zuum. Not in LW and I doubt any other war. You didnt even drop a bomb on them from an IL2.
IL2 vs Tiger scores by ZUUM starting with tour 103. 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.
Boy Im getting tired of this nonsense.
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I might be wrong but I think Zuum meant effect instead of effort.
So he was indeed saying that he hasn't been able to do what just happened in the film. Yep, I too discovered pretty quickly that NS-37 is very effective against Tigers and if Zuum hasn't, it really isn't the end of the world.