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Title: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: CrosFire on August 04, 2009, 04:11:45 PM
Service length-1944-1946

Weight-46t

Engine-diesel V-2JS
H.P.-520

Speed-37km/h

Range-150km

Armor Thickness(MM)
Hull front-120
Hull side-90
Hull rear-60
Turret-90 to 100

Crew-4

Armament
122mm D-25T model 1943 Tank gun
3x 3.62mm DT machine gun
1x 12.7mm DShK model 1938 anti air machine gun

Number of JS-2 and JS-2m produced by July of 1945 is 3483


Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: Penguin on August 05, 2009, 09:44:24 AM
 :O that's a REALLY big gun, with REALLY high speed, and REALLY good armor.  So you're going for a bigger, better Tiger I? 

It's like a B-29 in tank form!  It's got a bigger gun than an M1-A2 Abrahms (a 120mm smoothebore with HEAT, Sable, and canister shot capabilities).  It would need to be perked like an Me-262.

All in all, I want one! +1 :aok
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: Nemisis on August 05, 2009, 11:12:00 AM
CrosFire you must understand that it came in to late to get into the game. And nothing could stop it except at close range or from the sides and back. It would be uber and cause problems with spawn camping. You can't argue with that. I would like to have that tank myself, but I can see that it would cause problems.

The guns on the older tanks would have trouble penetrating the armor.


-1, sorry, just too short a carrear, just too uber.
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: Larry on August 05, 2009, 12:10:53 PM


:O that's a REALLY big gun, with REALLY high speed, and REALLY good armor.  So you're going for a bigger, better Tiger I? 


While its HE round would be great IIRC the AP round wasn't very good. High speed? At 23mph it would be the slowest tank we have. It does have good armor but the tiger and M4 would still give it a run for its money.


CrosFire you must understand that it came in to late to get into the game.

No it didn't. It started production in late 1943.

And nothing could stop it except at close range or from the sides and back. It would be uber and cause problems with spawn camping.

As I said before the M4 and tiger could hold its own against it. As for spawn camping it would be almost useless. The gun had a very slow reload time because the shell was in two parts.

-1, sorry, just too short a carrear, just too uber.

The T34/85 we have started production about the same time yet we have it in game.
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: Nemisis on August 05, 2009, 12:19:34 PM
My, appologies I thought is stared in late 1944.

Sorry I was going to say "none of the older tanks can stop it. Just forgot to change it.

And I thought the T34/85 started in the middle of 1943.

And usually when someone spawn camps (based on my long and illustrious carrear of being sniped when I spawn) they are generally hidden in the trees, behind bushes, or houses, and well off in the distance, almost at the edge of their kill range.

I appologize.
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: usvi on August 05, 2009, 12:31:08 PM
(http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/229233-1/rt8wer5wr)
This monster only carried 28 rounds of ammo,better have an M3 with supplies nearby.
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: Rich46yo on August 05, 2009, 02:12:06 PM
A break thru tank would be fun. :aok I'd love to see the JS-2m.
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 05, 2009, 05:20:44 PM
CrosFire you must understand that it came in to late to get into the game.

(http://www.moxing.net/uploadfile/2009/0512/20090512042114562.jpg)

Stalin tanks cruising through Berlin during the battle for the city, 1945.


ack-ack
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: StokesAk on August 05, 2009, 05:36:13 PM
-1, sorry, just too short a carrear, just too uber.

We have the Spit16. :rofl
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 05, 2009, 05:58:50 PM

While its HE round would be great IIRC the AP round wasn't very good. High speed? At 23mph it would be the slowest tank we have. It does have good armor but the tiger and M4 would still give it a run for its money.

The BR-471 sharp nosed AP round the Stalin used was able to penetrate the frontal armor of a Tiger tank from distances up to 1200 meters, while the sloped armor of the Panther was harder to penetrate and could only be done from distances up to around 700 meters.  Soviet engineers figured out that blunt nose AP rounds had a better chance of penetrating the Panther's sloped armor but I don't know if they ever used these AP rounds.

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As I said before the M4 and tiger could hold its own against it. As for spawn camping it would be almost useless. The gun had a very slow reload time because the shell was in two parts.

Both tanks would have to score one hit kills on the Stalin tank, if they missed their shots the Stalin would get them with its first shot.  The 75mm on the M4 I think would have a tough time penetrating the armor of a Stalin, though I think the Firefly's 17 pounder would probably have an easier time of it.  The HE round of the Stalin tank would be able to take out a Tiger or M4 because of the 'normalization' effect.  The Stalin tank was capable of firing 2 rounds per minute.  


ack-ack
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: WWhiskey on August 05, 2009, 06:06:07 PM
it looks good to me  +1
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: CrosFire on August 05, 2009, 09:01:46 PM
If you took the time to read the specs its got a AA gun mounted on the turret to :devil bye bye bomb****s.

Crosfire
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: E25280 on August 05, 2009, 10:19:15 PM
And I thought the T34/85 started in the middle of 1943.
February 1944 IIRC.
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: lyric1 on August 06, 2009, 07:44:03 AM
I like it.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.battlefield.ru/tanks/is2/is2_73.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.battlefield.ru/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D32%26Itemid%3D50%26lang%3Den&usg=__73tKXi0vWWWBO5X0WNYqfegbyzo=&h=279&w=580&sz=43&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=anPEJnSmU5mIaM:&tbnh=64&tbnw=134&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djs-2m%2Btank%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADBR_enUS236US236%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: opposum on August 06, 2009, 12:39:56 PM
I like it.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.battlefield.ru/tanks/is2/is2_73.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.battlefield.ru/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D32%26Itemid%3D50%26lang%3Den&usg=__73tKXi0vWWWBO5X0WNYqfegbyzo=&h=279&w=580&sz=43&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=anPEJnSmU5mIaM:&tbnh=64&tbnw=134&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djs-2m%2Btank%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADBR_enUS236US236%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1


that is a freaken awesome website,
man I wish there was something exactly like that for all the tanks  :aok :aok :aok :aok



opposum
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: slimmer on August 07, 2009, 04:38:03 AM
 :aok
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: waystin2 on August 07, 2009, 10:41:07 AM
+1
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: Nemisis on August 07, 2009, 06:13:18 PM
I change from -1 to 0 (nutrual) as long as it is perked like the 262 or at least the 163.
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: Plawranc on August 08, 2009, 08:39:45 AM
We have the Spit16. :rofl

Too true, and it own's you PERIOD

rofl
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: Nemisis on August 08, 2009, 02:51:50 PM
Too true, and it own's you PERIOD

rofl

Lets see on of them fight a P-47N at 30,000 ft. Does it still own? Thought not.
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: Unit791 on August 10, 2009, 06:04:51 PM
(Begins to druel) Put the JS-2 in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: Nemisis on August 11, 2009, 11:35:04 AM
NO, for the same reason some people don't want me to have my B-29. Once I get that then You can have your tank.
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: druski85 on August 11, 2009, 12:25:48 PM
If you took the time to read the specs its got a AA gun mounted on the turret to :devil bye bye bomb****s.

Crosfire

AA gun is a single 12.7 mm machine gun.  You may be able to protect yourself with a 20mm on top... :)

Slow speed, slower reload, small ammo capacity, big target...I'm not sure how "uber" this would be.
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: Ruler2 on August 11, 2009, 12:32:26 PM

The Stalin tank was capable of firing 2 rounds per minute.  

ack-ack

   I'll take my T34/76   :)
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: Larry on August 11, 2009, 01:21:52 PM
AA gun is a single 12.7 mm machine gun.  You may be able to protect yourself with a 20mm on top... :)


A single 12.7mm gun can still do some damage. ;)

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/film32_01715.ahf
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: Nemisis on August 11, 2009, 02:26:28 PM
A single 12.7mm gun can still do some damage. ;)


In that case you won't mind if HT changes the armament on YOUR planes to a singel 12.7mm mg right?

(Nem) HT, some guy wants a downgrade on armament. You might wana talk to him.

But really, it can't do all tha much. Even the twin mounts on heavy bombers take some work to kill a fighter.
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: Larry on August 11, 2009, 02:51:30 PM

In that case you won't mind if HT changes the armament on YOUR planes to a singel 12.7mm mg right?

(Nem) HT, some guy wants a downgrade on armament. You might wana talk to him.

But really, it can't do all tha much. Even the twin mounts on heavy bombers take some work to kill a fighter.


Watch the film.
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: Ruler2 on August 13, 2009, 12:29:41 PM

But really, it can't do all tha much. Even the twin mounts on heavy bombers take some work to kill a fighter.

Honestly Nemisis,you would be surprised what I can do to a spit with a couple rounds from a B25H tail gun or an SBD,sometimes their wings pop right off in just a few rounds
Title: Re: JS-2m Heavy tank
Post by: Nemisis on August 13, 2009, 12:37:05 PM
Sometimes, and against some planes, But if you are in a gv, I would expect to see a lot of Il 2's (a few 12.7mm rounds aren't going to knock it down) and maby some Ju87s (probably attacking from high angle and likely high speed. Not sure about how it will deal with some .50cal hits though). I wouldn't really expect to see a spit attacking gv's.