(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/1grayeagle/AirWarrior/FUBAR.jpg) Murderers Row of the Fubar: GE, Snail, JJ, and Hi-Tech ..done during Shaky Sticks Battle over Germany scenario when we were in Wulfs, ..it was cool in that we had to earn our 262 rides and it took awhile to do so.
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/1grayeagle/AirWarrior/MAIN.jpg) Click 'Fly' ..the wulf takin off ..and you best pack a lunch and bring friends :)
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/1grayeagle/AirWarrior/C_HQ2.jpg) C-land HQ had its very own flavor :)
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/1grayeagle/AirWarrior/SHOTDWN.jpg) We *all* saw this one a LOT :)
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/1grayeagle/AirWarrior/AIRWAR4.jpg) Sly has been Shot Down an Subby says a zeke is INC!!
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/1grayeagle/AirWarrior/MAP.jpg) The memoriabilia that piled up in my 'office' as I got 'into' Air Warrior :)
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/1grayeagle/AirWarrior/FPW.gif) My 'office' when I began .. the magic happened there, from DOS to Windows, kicking and screaming all the way.
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/1grayeagle/AirWarrior/CREDITS2.jpg) ahh .. the names .. long forgotten since the bolt of lightning that was EA scattered us to the 4 winds.
I hurt myself now an then. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.
-GE aka Frank
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Ripsnort on August 05, 2009, 02:31:18 PM
I remember something like $5 or $6 an hour to fly, my wife had a litter of kittens when the VISA bill came that month. :D
Thanks for the memories! :rock
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: maddafinga on August 05, 2009, 02:46:56 PM
Great pics GE, thanks for posting them and the memories too! I'll post this thread up to the list, thanks again!
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: 68ZooM on August 05, 2009, 03:08:54 PM
Wow that brings back great memories, thats the game folks that started it all in online flight sims, WTG Frank
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Joc on August 05, 2009, 03:11:07 PM
(gets emotional) :cry great stuff! :aok
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Skuzzy on August 05, 2009, 03:25:28 PM
You have not gotten passed the first pic, have you Joc?
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: thrila on August 05, 2009, 03:29:27 PM
Still have that beautiful original you did for me hanging on my wall at work. Along with a P51 print and a FW190 schematic (The 51 is visible - lower right, the FW is on the side wall not in the photo). And if you look carefully on the left, you can see the inkjet'd version of BB standing in front of his ride.
I don't "fly" anymore, but I've got about 10 pieces of aviation art in my office in addition to models I built of an ME109, P38, and F4U. And you'll be glad to know that your paintings are more prominently displayed than my Trudgian or even my Robert Taylor :aok
1527: Icon dead guy -)-STILETTO--- (Aka Dan)
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Joc on August 05, 2009, 04:02:39 PM
Ahhhhhhh once er bitten.....never forgotten lol :D
Thrilaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! hey m8!!! just a couple of days ago,so err learning to fly again lol :D
Bring forth the Mobile Sheep Pens! :furious
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Grayeagle on August 05, 2009, 04:15:56 PM
-sigh- 1527 .. Stil .. Dan .. dood.
You know I think I learned more about air combat fighting you than any other single person in the world. I know it seemed pretty hopeless when you would land what .. 15 GE kills in yer spit 9 .. because I kept comin up, knowing you were there waiting, .. I learned. Slowly. Painfully. As did we all.
It was my honor to be able to do that painting for you and the Musketeers. You guys were *lethal* .. I remember the C-land channel squawking: 'Muskies over C-1!! Don't Go There!!' The Hunt was ON!! .. I'd get with Krazy Kat or Hoppy or Pho .. even the dreaded Mullah, ..and we'd try to cut one of yas down on the way back to A-Land, ..end up shot down more often than not :)
Very good times :)
-GE
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 05, 2009, 04:18:41 PM
You used to be able to find the client version by clicking on the sheep and they'd "BAHHHH".
ack-ack
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Maverick on August 05, 2009, 05:15:51 PM
I spent many hours and dollars :O when it was on GEnie. I started out as BulletMagnet then later changed my handle to Maverick when I joined the 13th TAS. I have friends that I know and talk to to this day from those old days back in 93 / 94. I lost a lot of sleep trying to land multi kill missions. Problem was I just kinda never wanted to stop fighting once I had those kills. It was great fun flying nap of the earth missions to get the carrier when folks were trying to up there. I still remember the screams when we shut down one side by killing all of their fields. :lol
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: -)-STILETTO--- on August 05, 2009, 05:43:03 PM
GE,
Yeah.. it was the same for me starting out. I can't remember all the names of the guys who used to own me, but I do remember they were mostly from A-Land (I was in B-Land when I started), probably DoK's crew. Then after awhile it was the DFA. I never was any good at strategy though. I remember someone put me in charge of a squad in one of those scenario's, thinking that cuz I could shoot stuff down, I must have a high tactical IQ or something. Was definately NOT the case! lol
Your painting is a legend amongst the Muskies. If I were to die tomorrow, I'm sure B-Man would be callin my wife asking for that painting. :rofl I might of been able to shoot down some people in AW, but I could never even approach the artistic talent you have, be it with mouse, pen, plotter, or brush. I hope your still painting. Do you have a website displaying your work?
-)-STILETTO---
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: thrila on August 05, 2009, 05:45:45 PM
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: DREDIOCK on August 05, 2009, 06:43:27 PM
Jeeezus those pics bring back memories. I remember looking at some of those first few screenshots at the time and thinking that I wish the game looked that good. LOL and what about that cockpit! lmao
Course what isnt shown is that co pilot who refused to look you in the eye.. Bastage! ;)
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on August 05, 2009, 06:55:38 PM
Those were the days. :(
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Brooke on August 05, 2009, 07:03:38 PM
Stiletto . . . wasn't he one of the new guys who joined when AW went to AOL? :)
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 05, 2009, 07:23:41 PM
Course what isnt shown is that co pilot who refused to look you in the eye.. Bastage! ;)
And of course seeing new players chewing out the supply drones for not answering them. I still remember one player getting mad after he made repeated attempts to contact z1234 (drone C47) to ask if he needed an escort.
ack-ack
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Grayeagle on August 05, 2009, 10:02:35 PM
I dont have a 'site' .. I do have a bunch of stuff up on photobucket.
Once I was into harness as a game artist I didn't do anymore painting, was too caught up in 3dStudio then Max then Multigen's Creator.
Now I am gettin back into Max again .. the latest experiment is a vette concept I wanted to do, then I imported my 3dStudio Mustang, and then I imported my 3dMax B-17 (from when Max had just come out)
After bein 'out of it' for awhile when the falcon V company dried up and blew away ..leavin me about as broke as I have ever been, ..went thru some tough years learnin to be a Nurse ..was a good run for a few years as a Nurse, enjoyed most of it.
Now I am aimin right at a 3d Artist gig again .. I just cannot 'do' Nurse anymore. Their 'bad' days are unimaginable.
-GE aka Frank
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Kazaa on August 05, 2009, 10:07:29 PM
Gary, did you create all those 3D models on your photobucket account ? If so bloody nice work mate!
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Grayeagle on August 05, 2009, 11:06:47 PM
Kazaa . . my name is Frank :) ..
..and yes . . created, mapped, lighted the scenes, rendered those and many others over the years.
Thanks .. I am glad you like 'em .. I get 'into' 3d modeling, mapping, ..all of it.
-Frank aka GE
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Rash on August 05, 2009, 11:11:33 PM
Goodyear Wingfoots? First of the gators. Only problem, they only lasted a few thousand miles. I loved them.
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Hajo on August 05, 2009, 11:50:13 PM
I have a coffee cup with the B-17 Blood Dragon on it. I got it some years ago from DoKs site.
Always admired your artwork GE-.
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Plawranc on August 06, 2009, 04:07:05 AM
I joined AH2 2 years ago and Ive seen the guys who winged up with me as noobs get better and watched the enviroments and flight models grow into a sim that as of late defeats IL2 and other noteable competitors.
AH2 will last for a long time, we will all make sure of that.
Seeing this air warrior stuff makes me realize alot of you guys have been around dogfighting before I learnt to walk and that makes me laugh :D
And this artwork should be collected into a gallery its truly spectacular we should pool and start a museum :D
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Max on August 06, 2009, 07:25:17 AM
Thanks for posting the pics GE...sure brings back fond memories. What's moggy doin' these days?
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Saurdaukar on August 06, 2009, 08:52:44 AM
Jeeezus those pics bring back memories. I remember looking at some of those first few screenshots at the time and thinking that I wish the game looked that good.
+1 :D
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Kazaa on August 06, 2009, 10:15:08 AM
Sorry Frank. :lol
I thought your name was GaryEagle when I glanced over, doh. :rofl
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Rich46yo on August 06, 2009, 11:11:00 AM
Terrific posts and pictures. :salute
Allows us late bloomers to appreciate the early days. Its hard to imagine I went until 2007 to start playing these games.
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Vipermann on August 06, 2009, 02:19:30 PM
I remember Genie too, only flew 2 months on it though and then I was outta money. I still remember flying with Reb28 and seeing how many Motley Aces we could bag in one flight.
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: FiLtH on August 06, 2009, 02:41:57 PM
I have those images burned into my eyes. Wow its been a few years!
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Brooke on August 06, 2009, 03:00:03 PM
I like that. I think we *should* start calling GE "GaryEagle". :)
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: TheRapier on August 06, 2009, 03:51:44 PM
Heya GE!
Good to see you're still out there and about :).
Those screens sure brought back some memories. I have a lot of your stuff on my machine as screensavers.
Take care my friend!
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Grayeagle on August 06, 2009, 06:59:58 PM
Lol Brooke .. would be tuff to beat DoK's 'Grape Beagle' from the GEnie BBS long ago :)
-GE
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: MotleyCH on August 06, 2009, 07:13:03 PM
I remember Genie too, only flew 2 months on it though and then I was outta money. I still remember flying with Reb28 and seeing how many Motley Aces we could bag in one flight.
Motley Aces weren't on Genie...nice memory :rofl
Gamestorm maybe..but that was only $9.95 a month. :D
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: bj229r on August 06, 2009, 08:14:26 PM
Gamestorm maybe..but that was only $9.95 a month. :D
Lol I remember the Motleys, Huck/HH229-Teeg, Ted, and the rest of us flew MOSTLY with them as C's in RR--(what was the famous set of missions to make the whole arena 'green'? (I remember A"s were yellow, B's were...red...)
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Guppy35 on August 07, 2009, 01:58:06 AM
I knew I had em somewhere. Found on an old computer from the Nomad days. Good fun with GE's work. A little battle of photoshop between +Rip and +Phnx. First shows +Phnx in the hanger.
Gamestorm maybe..but that was only $9.95 a month. :D
Lol sorry I didn't elaborate, I first played AW on Genie for 2 months, then picked it up again on AOL and Gamestorm. For awhile I was a MOT (MOTVR) until MOTCO went crazy. Then hunting MOT's became a favorite pasttime of RuAML and me.
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Skuzzy on August 07, 2009, 01:11:15 PM
Hehehe I had it so all my drunks would 'baa' as they jumped from my C47 lol........ :D
Ewe sheep tosser!
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Yenny on August 07, 2009, 02:16:03 PM
Ahh thanks for the memories
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: RightF00T on August 07, 2009, 07:43:51 PM
Thanks alot for the post...almost brought a tear to my eye thinking of how quickly EA killed the game after such a good run. I basically grew up on AW and moved over here to AH about two years in its infancy...I can't imagine you guys that played it pre-AOL(when I started)
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: PK1Mw on August 07, 2009, 09:55:09 PM
Wow you wanna talk about flash back.. holy shnykies!
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: rpm on August 08, 2009, 01:14:48 AM
I still have a Squad Cover and patch from The Black Roses. Long live A-land!
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Joc on August 08, 2009, 03:18:48 AM
Never really fought the Az much,seemed to spend all my energy fightin Bz,dunno why lol
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Grayeagle on August 08, 2009, 05:08:55 AM
LoL Joc ..
I would dive thru a cloud of A's to get the lone B-lander .. just on the off chance it might be Fencer :)
Hate was Life :)
-GE
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: MotleyCH on August 08, 2009, 06:57:01 AM
Lol sorry I didn't elaborate, I first played AW on Genie for 2 months, then picked it up again on AOL and Gamestorm. For awhile I was a MOT (MOTVR) until MOTCO went crazy. Then hunting MOT's became a favorite pasttime of RuAML and me.
ya... MOTCO (Blaster) :furious (sigh)
Hey GE.. did you host any of the other images, somewhere else, that you used to have on that WW2pilots Website ?
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Halo on August 08, 2009, 06:44:05 PM
Wow, what a bunch of olde fartz. It's a wonder any of us survived $13 an hour play fights ($6 Air Warrior, $7 local long distance after hours via Genie).
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Grayeagle on August 08, 2009, 06:46:44 PM
+MIA had a domain problem so it was changed a bit ago ..he still has that site up, it keeps gettin better.
Can spend awhile there, lotta neat stuff to read. I have yet to make it over for one of their lunches .. life sucks sometimes.
-GE
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: gunnss on August 08, 2009, 06:56:50 PM
LOL what Halo said, I was a Sgt in the Army with a family, and flight time was realy limited untill I got out in 95.... Regards, Gunns (whoes greates moment was parking a "Beer" truck on the runway waiting for the rest of the squad to get home -Avengers)
Wow, what a bunch of olde fartz. It's a wonder any of us survived $13 an hour play fights ($6 Air Warrior, $7 local long distance after hours via Genie).
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on August 08, 2009, 08:16:31 PM
Wow, what a bunch of olde fartz. It's a wonder any of us survived $13 an hour play fights ($6 Air Warrior, $7 local long distance after hours via Genie).
For me, it was student loans.
ack-ack
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: -aper- on August 09, 2009, 09:56:54 AM
There was another good game btw... (http://users.tpg.com.au/adslqurg/Scr1.jpg)
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Grayeagle on August 09, 2009, 11:01:45 PM
Come a long ways .. cant wait to see what the next 10 years will bring :)
I want my Holodeck :)
-GE
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: DoKGonZo on November 14, 2009, 12:26:26 AM
Aye, GEnie ... a foul beast if ever there was one:
And, while the technology was certainly not what it was today, there are things you can get away with using good ole pixel editing of cockpit art that don't always translate with a 3D mesh:
(That thing "etched" into the AB-17 windscreen was a calibrated low-altitude bombsight.)
-DoK
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Brooke on November 14, 2009, 01:04:54 AM
Heh! Thanks, DoK. :aok
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: john9001 on November 14, 2009, 04:37:44 PM
one month my bill was $300 , crazy.
44MAG
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: YBJAFO on June 15, 2015, 12:00:37 PM
13th TAS pilots never die, they just get too old and grouchy to show up anymore. :furious
Air Warrior: 1989 - 1993
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: fuzeman on June 15, 2015, 12:28:24 PM
I think it was on the 'Setup' 'Missions' screen where you clicked on something with the ALT key and got someone saying "I'm so horny"
http://www.fw190.org/airwarrior.htm
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Muzzy on June 15, 2015, 12:45:36 PM
I'm all sentimental now....
Getting totally schooled by Dawn when she beat me in an A-26 against my spitty....then she turned around and gave me my first training lessons in ACM.
Landing a shot up B-17 with a full crew on board...
The sheep....
Like...tears...in rain....
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: YBJAFO on June 15, 2015, 02:33:29 PM
You mention the A-26 ... and I can still remember an afternoon in a Ju 88 in the Euro map annoying the hell out of A-landers by dropping them out of the sky using this lead-sponge beast.
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: FLOOB on June 15, 2015, 03:33:08 PM
I did it on my american express corporate card. 3 months in a row, they paid my bill. never questioned it. just wrote entertainment.
semp
That's only because you didn't shoot down anyone in accounting.
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: YBJAFO on June 16, 2015, 04:43:43 PM
I dug this thread up and brushed it off having done a few searches for my 13th TAS, B-Land squad-mates from Air Warrior. :x
I tracked them into Warbirds years ago and now I guess some are still flying here.
Major YBJAFO, now retired, 13th TAS Strike Wing, Air Warrior
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Maverick on June 17, 2015, 10:55:04 AM
Some of us are still around. Toad sometimes pops up here on the board.
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: RetributionR on June 17, 2015, 04:32:40 PM
Hi fellas! Formerly known as F4F on AirWarrior. Was the CO of the <Red Devils> squadron. We used to head2head with <33rd>. We were a snot nose youngins crew vs. An old salty flying squadron. Yea. They whooped us and schlacked us - but it was fun as all get out.
I remember people would whisper me and asked if I was a lesbian -- I was barely a teenager then! LoL.
Regardless - this game brings back great memories and Ive found its just as habit forming lol
<S> to all
Go bish!
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Arlo on June 17, 2015, 05:37:48 PM
Ain't this cool? Does this represent a potential resurgence in both game and community .... from ol vets of AW? (Again?) :D
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Flossy on June 18, 2015, 02:21:59 AM
Yeah I still miss Air Warrior and to this day won't touch anything by EA. I particularly loved being a Game Assistant and discovering there were other arenas apart from the FR one I had played in exclusively until then. The visible presence of an 'Airwar' in the noisiest of arenas had the majority of players playing nicely (at least during the off-peak hours that I covered, being in the UK - I believe things got livelier later at night). I was mainly there to help afterall and enjoyed every minute. :aok
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: mikeWe9a on June 19, 2015, 03:55:36 PM
I dug this thread up and brushed it off having done a few searches for my 13th TAS, B-Land squad-mates from Air Warrior. :x
I tracked them into Warbirds years ago and now I guess some are still flying here.
Major YBJAFO, now retired, 13th TAS Strike Wing, Air Warrior
Recently back to AH, but fondly remember 13TAS from AW as well.
Speedster (still remember my ID numbers from playing AW on GENIE and then DELPHI)
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Arlo on June 19, 2015, 05:26:27 PM
Never had a 'tail number' myself. Started in with AWIII. Maybe the older Air Warriors would be kind enough to anoint me with one? Start them (the tail numbers) out where they left off? After all, I'm an 'old soul' and my heart's in the right place. If I could manage to have either a 69 or 007 in mine that would be nice. :D
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 19, 2015, 06:20:15 PM
You mention the A-26 ... and I can still remember an afternoon in a Ju 88 in the Euro map annoying the hell out of A-landers by dropping them out of the sky using this lead-sponge beast.
I loved the vader. Almost as much as the YAK. Using the flaps in a loop to get it to lurch forward out turn fighting turnfighters.
And I remember one flight ruining an entire mission. I was dicing in to lay waste to the feild when a mission suddenly appeared on the runway and let loose with my eggs on that instead. Got 11 kills
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 19, 2015, 06:25:22 PM
Yeah I still miss Air Warrior and to this day won't touch anything by EA.
I remember right after it went down they threatened to throw me off the AW boards for saying I hoped EA's exec families all contracted an incurable form of syphilis.
I was like "And that is suppossed to scare me why?? The game is gone. What excactly is it you think you are booting me from?."
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: pipz on June 19, 2015, 06:26:16 PM
Those screen shots bring back some memories. :aok
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Muzzy on June 19, 2015, 11:46:53 PM
Anyone recall any good sticks that flew back then?
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: SIK1 on June 20, 2015, 12:22:49 AM
Anyone recall any good sticks that flew back then?
I remember JBKidd, 8bird, Bamma, 7lobo, LPN, just to name a few that always gave me good fights. Most flew in RR Pac2, although I know JB flew in the FR Pac arena.
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Brooke on June 20, 2015, 12:35:27 AM
Anyone recall any good sticks that flew back then?
There were a bunch. The ones I remember fighting a lot waaaaaaaay back when were Airmigan, Wild Thing, and BushWhacker. There was also HiTech -- whatever became of that guy?
Old scores from Air Warrior:
http://www.musketeers.org/AWScoresComp.pdf
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Flossy on June 20, 2015, 02:16:32 AM
I remember right after it went down they threatened to throw me off the AW boards for saying I hoped EA's exec families all contracted an incurable form of syphilis.
I was like "And that is suppossed to scare me why?? The game is gone. What excactly is it you think you are booting me from?."
:rofl To think we were warned what would happen by the Janes players as their game was also bought and subsequently closed down by EA. Like everyone else, I didn't want to believe it at the time but they were proved correct. :(
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Treize69 on June 22, 2015, 09:43:31 PM
Played that for a long time offline before I eventually found WarBirds and went MMO. I love when you get talking to someone who says they've been flying sims 'since the old days', and they have no idea what AirWarrior is. Or Chuck Yeager's Air Combat for that matter...
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Brooke on June 23, 2015, 02:27:56 AM
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Treize69 on June 23, 2015, 08:43:14 AM
I've been in 'em since abou 1997 (when i got my first computer), but my brother in law, who says he's been flying them 'forever', didn't actually get started until about 2005 and has never flown any of the WWII MMO ones. :O
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Brooke on June 23, 2015, 07:41:54 PM
I've been in 'em since abou 1997 (when i got my first computer), but my brother in law, who says he's been flying them 'forever', didn't actually get started until about 2005 and has never flown any of the WWII MMO ones. :O
Never flown WWII MMO!??? Ye gods. Do you tell him that, with regard to flight simulation, he's the equivalent of a wet-behind-the-ears sissy who does not deserve your sister's hand in marriage? ;) Do you tell him what he's missing? Do you tell him that's like someone saying, "Yeah, I'm quite a car buff" when he has never driven anything but a Ford Pinto?
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Treize69 on June 23, 2015, 08:57:27 PM
Sadly it's my wife's brother, so I'm stuck with him. Both he and his father are 'avid flight simmers' who've never done anything more than flying around in circles in FSX.
I Had to prove to them once that the P-51 they'd bought wasn't broken and was, indeed, possible to take off successfully. I then flew it the hell out of it for about twenty minutes before landing and logging out while they just stared open mouthed. My only jab was 'If you can only fly jets, you can't really fly.'
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: Brooke on June 24, 2015, 01:43:48 AM
There is one other angle.
I know two folks (my Dad and a friend at work) who regularly fly scenarios as bomber pilots and love it. You can get up to speed a lot faster in bombers, and they are less hectic to fly than fighters. Folks who fly jets in Flight Simulator, practicing navigation and such, might be more inclined to like bombers.
You could try introducing them to that?
(I cannot fathom people who like airplanes or flight simulators but don't love Aces High.)
Title: Re: Air Warrior
Post by: pipz on June 24, 2015, 09:33:16 AM
Sadly it's my wife's brother, so I'm stuck with him. Both he and his father are 'avid flight simmers' who've never done ...............................