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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Sachs on December 02, 2001, 04:06:00 AM
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Just curious?
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cause the p47s needed more drop tanks :)
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Originally posted by Wotan:
cause the p47s needed more drop tanks :)
LOL ;)
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Pyro HATES the Me 410.
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Just give Hs129, so germans will have equal firepower with the Hispano, however, at slower rate of fire.
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the same reason the Spit XIV hasnt been added yet. They havent gotten around to it yet.
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Hs129 would be the worst Jabo plane in AH.
only someone who doesnt fly LW planes would prefer the Hs129 over the me410 or the me110(late models).
The Hs 129 is so slow its painfull.
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Who said Hs129 would be used like Me410...
It's 75mm would be used against GVs of course.
Since it seems like german planes are more for fun than actually to be survivable - Ju88 with earliest armament set and no 1000kg's?
No loss with some other exotic gun meat.
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I would rather see the Me-410B-2/U4 than a Hs-129. Mainly because one of the options on that ride was the BFG (Big Friggin Gun) BK5 cannon. Sure it only carried 21 rounds but it was a hard hitter.
Here is a link to a picture of a Me-410 going away from a B-17. At least that is what the caption on the photgraph says. http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/wrg0238.jpg (http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/wrg0238.jpg)
[ 12-02-2001: Message edited by: Reschke ]
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Too many German planes?
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One of the reasons other than because "they havent gotten around to it yet." is IMO the difficulties involved in getting the reargunner to function correctly. It is nothing like the reargunner in the IL-2 aircraft for instance.
The gunner remotely controlled the guns with a joystick and aimed through a kind of periscope.
I can just imagine how this will require some new coding to get working. Coding that isn't needed to include a Bf 110.
But maybe HT is up for the challenge? *hopes HT takes the bait* :)
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NO he did not.
He had a reflector sight and a pistole type grip that worked a linkage to the guns. I had the great privlage to put my paw on the Me 410 at the Paule E Garber facility, got close enough to look in the windo. I have a picture I will post that shows the rear gunner position.
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In the context of AH the barbettes would work just like the tail or nose guns on a B-17. In both of those positions the guns are remotely aimed.
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A picture is worth...
(http://content.communities.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=MyPhotos_GetPubPhoto&PhotoID=nHwAAADMJc3Yl8G!UlQfMM9FDWMGaEknzChpK*Dy2*AgkqicmJ2kH0KTWqB8kmUgl)
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The gunner remotely controlled the guns with a joystick and aimed through a kind of periscope.
I can just imagine how this will require some new coding to get working. Coding that isn't needed to include a Bf 110.
Brady is correct its nothing like the periscope on the arado. I have seen other picks of the 410 rear gunner pos with the "pistol grip" and revi. I'll see if i cant find umm.
AG you got that 410 book yet?
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Check out the pics here: http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/me410.html (http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/me410.html)
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OK, my bad. :o
But then I'd like to know now the following: Why hasn't the 410 been added yet? :)
My misconception came from the following text, that, now I read it again, doesn't imply that some sort of periscope was used for aiming. I'll add the text because it gives a nice idea about how they functioned and were capable of:
"Two 13mm MG 131 guns in faired blisters, one on each side of the fuselage, remotely sighted and controlled by the rear-gunner. These two blisters are mounted on the ends of a barrel set across the fuselage and carried on annular ball-bearings on inner walls of fuselage. Through a torque multiplier, driven by a small electric motor and trains of gears, this barrel may be revolved to elevate or depress the guns, or further geraring within the barrel may traverse the guns. All movement of the guns is controlled by a pistol grip in gunner's cockpit. The guns may be elevated or depressed through a range og about 70 degrees and traversed independently of each other through about 40 degrees from the sides of the fuselage. The guns may also be fired together towards the rear. A contact-breaker device interupts firing when the guns, which are electrically fired, are pointing at any part of the aeroplane structure."[/b]
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wow, that tailgun system seems pretty complex. Sounds like HT needs to be bribed to get him to code that. ;) I for one would love to see the 110 and 410 in AH. Big week just won't be the same without them.