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Title: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: codemant on August 15, 2009, 01:30:37 AM
ok, this is one i thought that would be fixed since 2.14 patch1, when in gunner mode in ALL bombers, moving the gunner movement too quickly messes up the flight controls and acts like compression and it's reall frustation especially whem you're TBM and you need to pull out and all of  a sudden you ran into a hanger, Mt, Etc....
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: WMLute on August 15, 2009, 07:57:17 AM
ok, this is one i thought that would be fixed since 2.14 patch1, when in gunner mode in ALL bombers, moving the gunner movement too quickly messes up the flight controls and acts like compression and it's reall frustation especially whem you're TBM and you need to pull out and all of  a sudden you ran into a hanger, Mt, Etc....


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If this is beyond you, have the common decency of copying what you type and paste it into a WORD document (if you don't have Microsoft Office you can download OpenOffice for free) and do a Spell and Grammar check.  Then cut/paste it back into the forum.  Takes all of 30 seconds and EVERYBODY that reads your posts will thank you.




OK... on to your post.

When in a gunner position you can use RUDDER to change your planes direction.  If you are jerking your flight controller too fast you are probably engaging rudder.  I would add some DEADBAND to your rudder in the Controll Setup to prevent this from happening.

You 100% lost me with your TBM analogy.  If you are in a dive and jump into the gun position the plane will auto level.

IF you are talking about diving and when you try to pull up you get a "Do Not Move Your Controls so Rapidly" message then you simple have to add some Deadband and Dampening to your X and Y axis in the Control setup.
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: jimson on August 15, 2009, 02:09:55 PM
Nevermind.
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: Chalenge on August 15, 2009, 02:19:40 PM
I will say it.

Give up on correcting the grammar problems. Look around you and you will see your task would be overwhelming and most of us dont bother trying. Besides it makes you look goofy.  :D
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: WMLute on August 15, 2009, 03:35:22 PM
I will say it.

Give up on correcting the grammar problems. Look around you and you will see your task would be overwhelming and most of us dont bother trying. Besides it makes you look goofy.  :D
What KILLS me is with a spell check built in to this forum, and how easy it is to check a post (like I suggested) with Word or a similar program, it takes almost no effort to make a legible post.

I saw something on T.V. today that stated in the 1950's the average teenager had a vocabulary of @ 50,000 words.  Today the average teen has a vocabulary of @ 10,000 words.

Kids ARE getting dumber.
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: Chalenge on August 15, 2009, 10:51:49 PM
And yet none of that information is of much use to codemant.

Codemant I dont have that issue. Could your rudder be set off center or autopilot not holding for some reason?
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: WMLute on August 16, 2009, 01:11:48 AM
And yet none of that information is of much use to codemant.

Codemant I dont have that issue. Could your rudder be set off center or autopilot not holding for some reason?

yeah...

I see your point.

When in a gunner position you can use RUDDER to change your planes direction.  If you are jerking your flight controller too fast you are probably engaging rudder.  I would add some DEADBAND to your rudder in the Controll Setup to prevent this from happening.

You 100% lost me with your TBM analogy.  If you are in a dive and jump into the gun position the plane will auto level.

IF you are talking about diving and when you try to pull up you get a "Do Not Move Your Controls so Rapidly" message then you simple have to add some Deadband and Dampening to your X and Y axis in the Control setup.


Worthless info.

I am so ashamed.

Lord knows if his stick is out of cal or the autopilot is kicking off because his joystick isn't setup correctly, what I advised would be of no help at all.


oh wait.........
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: The Fugitive on August 16, 2009, 08:34:33 AM
yeah...

I see your point.


Worthless info.

I am so ashamed.

Lord knows if his stick is out of cal or the autopilot is kicking off because his joystick isn't setup correctly, what I advised would be of no help at all.


oh wait.........

 :rofl  Sucks trying to be helpful don't it?
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: codemant on August 19, 2009, 11:56:46 PM
you guys are not getting it, it's not the rudder, it's the gunner(the dude that shoots duhhh), when moving the freakin' Gunner too fast it makes compression happen, the freakin' rudder control is not the problems... man, ppl these days  :mad:
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: Yossarian on August 20, 2009, 01:39:31 AM
you guys are not getting it, it's not the rudder, it's the gunner(the dude that shoots duhhh), when moving the freakin' Gunner too fast it makes compression happen, the freakin' rudder control is not the problems... man, ppl these days  :mad:

Hey, I understand why you're pissed off, but in this forums being angry won't get you anywhere.  As for what they said about the grammar, yes you should make an effort to use proper grammar/spelling etc, even if they could have put it a bit more nicely.


RE your post:  What do you mean by compression?
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: Delirium on August 20, 2009, 02:10:12 AM
I saw something on T.V. today that stated in the 1950's the average teenager had a vocabulary of @ 50,000 words.  Today the average teen has a vocabulary of @ 10,000 words.

Not entirely true, if I remember correctly they only recognized words found in the dictionary and ignored abbreviations and such. Heck, Aces High probably has about 500 abbreviations alone. Can you imagine what the guys at HTC have to know, all the abbreviations and all the 'coading' language as well.

The english language is changing, it was vastly different from the 20th century compared to the 19th century. Some of the letters written by Civil War soldiers are like poetry, filled with dramatic phrases and contrast starkly compared to the letters written by soldiers from WWII or even WWI.

Back to the other topic...

I'm not sure what is causing your issue, Codemant, but I'd check the Aces High control panel for any stick spiking. I can walk you through it if you do not know how...
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: RTHolmes on August 20, 2009, 03:19:40 AM
it makes compression happen

what exactly do you mean by this?
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: batch on August 20, 2009, 06:48:00 AM
Seriously?

The guy has a problem in the BUG REPORTS section and you want to hijack his thread with juvenile grammar corrections?

Not to mention I always love then the spelling/grammar police show up and cant type themselves.

Might want to check your posts, you made a few mistakes that you should make you ashamed to own a computer apparently.
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: RTHolmes on August 20, 2009, 08:21:41 AM
hang on I think ive got it - rapidly moving stick in gunner position causes the "dont move your stick so rapidly" thing, then switch to pilot seat, take off autopilot and you have no control over the aircraft, kind of like high speed compression.

is this what you mean?
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: codemant on August 20, 2009, 05:19:15 PM
hang on I think ive got it - rapidly moving stick in gunner position causes the "dont move your stick so rapidly" thing, then switch to pilot seat, take off autopilot and you have no control over the aircraft, kind of like high speed compression.

is this what you mean?
yeah, i thought someone by now would have figured that out, so what's with the problem, it screws up the fun in the game  :cry
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: Chalenge on August 20, 2009, 05:38:29 PM
Codemant (what Lute said but in my own words) if you have a twisty stick and you have your rudders mapped to the twisty function it is impossible to input commands in roll or pitch without also inputting yaw. You can widen the deadband of the rudder control in order to allow the aircraft to better hold autopilot but if you still input too much rudder the aircraft will yaw.

Lute my reply was in direct response to your post immediately prior to mine. Jumping back like you did was kind of cute.
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: ImADot on August 20, 2009, 06:32:51 PM
Anyone actually jump in a bomber, get airborne, jump in gunner position and jiggle the stick like a crack-addict having a seizure?  Maybe it really does get interpreted by the game as someone moving the controls too fast and then locks the inputs for a few seconds as if you were in the pilot seat doing it.  If so, I'd call it a bug - and I'd also ask why someone would actually jerk the guns around like that.

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I hope my spelling and grammar is up to BBS standards.   :D

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I also hope that some day people who wish to ask questions, both verbally and written, would take a few seconds and try to form proper sentences so the rest of us can more easily understand WTF they are talking about.   :aok
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 20, 2009, 07:39:08 PM
and I'd also ask why someone would actually jerk the guns around like that.


recoil  ;)


ack-ack
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: codemant on August 20, 2009, 09:34:44 PM
  If so, I'd call it a bug - and I'd also ask why someone would actually jerk the guns around like that.


cheat warping from other planes, and plus i'm using a ps2 shaped USB controller and it's harder to be right on speed so i have to get aiming faster
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: Chalenge on August 20, 2009, 09:37:15 PM
That explains everything.
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: codemant on August 20, 2009, 10:33:58 PM
just need to get this fixed, otherwise AH gonna lose a customer. heh, just like a hostage situation  :lol
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: Motherland on August 20, 2009, 10:45:55 PM
There's nothing to fix...
The 'don't move your controls so rapidly' thing is there so you don't move your controls too fast. If you move your controls to fast they'll be locked up. So don't move your controls so fast.
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: codemant on August 20, 2009, 10:57:21 PM
There's nothing to fix...
The 'don't move your controls so rapidly' thing is there so you don't move your controls too fast. If you move your controls to fast they'll be locked up. So don't move your controls so fast.
uhhh, no that's not how it works, they are gonna fix problems that a game has,i'm not paying for my health here....
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 20, 2009, 11:10:34 PM
cheat warping from other planes, and plus i'm using a ps2 shaped USB controller and it's harder to be right on speed so i have to get aiming faster

The problem is pretty self evident and until you get a better controller, its something you're probably going to live with unless you follow Lute's suggestion and lessen the deadbands.

Oh, and by the way, the root cause of the problem is your game pad and not the game.  Get a better controller and the problem will go away, unless you buy even a more crappier controller than you have now.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: ImADot on August 20, 2009, 11:48:42 PM
you guys are not getting it, it's not the rudder, it's the gunner(the dude that shoots duhhh), when moving the freakin' Gunner too fast it makes compression happen, the freakin' rudder control is not the problems... man, ppl these days  :mad:

cheat warping from other planes, and plus i'm using a ps2 shaped USB controller and it's harder to be right on speed so i have to get aiming faster

just need to get this fixed, otherwise AH gonna lose a customer. heh, just like a hostage situation  :lol

uhhh, no that's not how it works, they are gonna fix problems that a game has,i'm not paying for my health here....

I think we've all given this thread more than it deserves.  It's obvious the OP is in need of a kind of help that we here can't give.
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: The Fugitive on August 21, 2009, 04:38:46 PM
we could call his Dad and have him give him a good whoopin'
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: AWwrgwy on August 22, 2009, 02:09:02 PM
uhhh, no that's not how it works, they are gonna fix problems that a game has,i'm not paying for my health here....

OK, so HTC needs to fix the problem with your controller or you're going to quit?

Before you say, "It's not the controller...."

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i'm using a ps2 shaped USB controller and it's harder to be right on speed so i have to get aiming faster

Doesn't school start soon anyway?  Put down the controller and hit those books!!


wrongway
Title: Re: Gunner compression glitch
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 23, 2009, 10:47:01 PM
OK, so HTC needs to fix the problem with your controller or you're going to quit?

Before you say, "It's not the controller...."

Doesn't school start soon anyway?  Put down the controller and hit those books!!


wrongway

I'm pretty sure now that his two weeks is up and he got himself PNG'd, we have seen the last of this masked man.


ack-ack