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Title: A sidenote about the "Metzger Bird" (ROFL...)
Post by: Keiler on August 16, 2009, 11:34:13 AM: Kurt Tank called his FW190 "Würger", after the bird. In english, this bird is called shrike, and there is another one, which is not related to the shrike, but hunts in the same way, the butcherbird.
There is no intention of having a relation to slaughtering, butchering or whatever, and most and above all, "Metzger Bird" sound so absolutely awkward.... :O
I am usually not nitpicky about stuff like that, but as I read that, my ears and eyes were bleeding.

Matt
Title: Re: A sidenote about the "Metzger Bird" (ROFL...)
Post by: Lusche on August 16, 2009, 01:17:45 PM: Just call it Schlachter Vogel...

:P

;)
Title: Re: A sidenote about the "Metzger Bird" (ROFL...)
Post by: Plazus on August 16, 2009, 01:40:28 PM: I never knew that Wurger meant Shrike. Ironically enough, I read a book called "Hyperion" (hence my ingame name), and there was the creature called The Shrike. It is human in feature, has two legs and four arms. It is all metal. It has spikes, saws, thorns, and many other sharp objects that make up this beast. It can travel through time and is believed to be sent back in time from humans in the far distant future. :rolleyes:

(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p270/Glassiker/hyperion.jpg)
-The book

(http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu89/Nadavkomor/shrike.jpg)
-An artists rendition of the Shrike
Title: Re: A sidenote about the "Metzger Bird" (ROFL...)
Post by: Rich46yo on August 16, 2009, 02:54:16 PM: Kurt Tank was a boderline genius.

His airplane was a great success story. And not just in design and operation but also production.

This was news to me. And I have studied up a bit on this man. Good post.
Title: Re: A sidenote about the "Metzger Bird" (ROFL...)
Post by: gyrene81 on August 16, 2009, 03:36:43 PM: Quote from: Keiler on August 16, 2009, 11:34:13 AM
"Metzger Bird" sound so absolutely awkward
It should actually be "Metzgervogel"...pronounced "metz-gah-foh-gell"...or something like that.
Title: Re: A sidenote about the "Metzger Bird" (ROFL...)
Post by: Masherbrum on August 16, 2009, 05:06:19 PM: Quote from: Rich46yo on August 16, 2009, 02:54:16 PM
Kurt Tank was a genius.

Fixed.
Title: Re: A sidenote about the "Metzger Bird" (ROFL...)
Post by: Widewing on August 16, 2009, 06:14:54 PM: Quote from: Masherbrum on August 16, 2009, 05:06:19 PM
Fixed.

Like every other aircraft designer, Tank borrowed from others. According to Tank, one of his biggest inspirations was Palmer's H-1 (Hughes H-1).

(http://www.aafo.com/racing/history/hughes_racer/update-2/images/06.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/penpusher/01%20Duxford%202009/Duxford%2009Jul09/02.jpg)

(http://www.aafo.com/racing/history/hughes_racer/update-2/images/41.jpg)

(http://www.caf-swisswing.ch/images_news/FW190.jpg)

(http://www.aafo.com/racing/history/hughes_racer/update-2/images/12.jpg)

(http://www.aafo.com/racing/history/hughes_racer/update-2/images/54.jpg)

No one designs in a vacuum. Everyone borrows from those who came before them.

My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: A sidenote about the "Metzger Bird" (ROFL...)
Post by: Masherbrum on August 16, 2009, 06:37:55 PM: He was still a genius.
Title: Re: A sidenote about the "Metzger Bird" (ROFL...)
Post by: Widewing on August 16, 2009, 07:14:49 PM: Quote from: Masherbrum on August 16, 2009, 06:37:55 PM
He was still a genius.
Indeed he was...

My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: A sidenote about the "Metzger Bird" (ROFL...)
Post by: Keiler on August 17, 2009, 01:25:12 AM: Quote from: Lusche on August 16, 2009, 01:17:45 PM
Just call it Schlachter Vogel...

:P

;)

:D
Title: Re: A sidenote about the "Metzger Bird" (ROFL...)
Post by: SirFrancis on August 17, 2009, 04:36:33 AM: Quote from: gyrene81 on August 16, 2009, 03:36:43 PM
It should actually be "Metzgervogel"...pronounced "metz-gah-foh-gell"...or something like that.

I suggest "matzgafogal" ;) otherwise our English speaking friends will pronounce it wrong relating to the "e".
Title: Re: A sidenote about the "Metzger Bird" (ROFL...)
Post by: gyrene81 on August 17, 2009, 12:55:11 PM: Quote from: SirFrancis on August 17, 2009, 04:36:33 AM
I suggest "matzgafogal" ;) otherwise our English speaking friends will pronounce it wrong relating to the "e".
:rofl Like we wouldn't pronounce it wrong using the a's? Think about it..."mates-gay-foh-gayle". LMAO...that's with a little southern accent dipped in there.
Title: Re: A sidenote about the "Metzger Bird" (ROFL...)
Post by: SirFrancis on August 18, 2009, 07:02:54 AM: Quote from: gyrene81 on August 17, 2009, 12:55:11 PM
:rofl Like we wouldn't pronounce it wrong using the a's? Think about it..."mates-gay-foh-gayle". LMAO...that's with a little southern accent dipped in there.

:aok thats true...