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Title: The ability...
Post by: mensa180 on August 16, 2009, 11:59:28 AM
The ability to let other players in a squadron other than the CO have CO like powers like setting invite/eject privileges.  If this is already possible, please show me how.
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: Ghosth on August 16, 2009, 12:27:35 PM
All of that has to be enabled  for each person he wants to give them to by your CO.

Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: 1Boner on August 16, 2009, 12:57:28 PM
Perk the "ability"!!  :x
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: mensa180 on August 17, 2009, 07:11:36 AM
All of that has to be enabled  for each person he wants to give them to by your CO.



I'm not saying how to give people invite privs, I'm saying I want to give people in the squad, other than myself, the ability to give OTHER people invite privs.  For all practical purposes I would like a squad of COs.
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: Strip on August 17, 2009, 07:35:49 AM
I'm not saying how to give people invite privs, I'm saying I want to give people in the squad, other than myself, the ability to give OTHER people invite privs.  For all practical purposes I would like a squad of COs.

Edit: Nevermind......I just realized what you meant. No you cant do that currently....
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: Ghosth on August 18, 2009, 06:28:03 AM
No, that you can't do, CO is not able to delegate that far.
He can give any squad member invite, eject, change name privs.

But he can't give that player the ability to give the NEXT guy those privs. CO has to remain hands on.

Nor, should he be able to IMO, that would be a disaster looking for a place to happen.
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: texastc316 on August 18, 2009, 12:49:19 PM
Never before, in the history of war, have so few been commanded by so many.
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: LLogann on August 18, 2009, 12:59:57 PM
Seriously..... sheese.

Never before, in the history of war, have so few been commanded by so many.

So what you really said Mensa, was this........ "I'm lazy, don't feel like being the CO when I'm online... Sure wish I could delegate that to the other booobies in the squad."

Not trying to be a jerk....  But that is exactly what you sound like.

Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: waystin2 on August 18, 2009, 01:18:25 PM
Two captains on the bridge will never work laddy...

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Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: druski85 on August 18, 2009, 01:21:31 PM
So what you really said Mensa, was this........ "I'm lazy, don't feel like being the CO when I'm online... Sure wish I could delegate that to the other booobies in the squad."

Not trying to be a jerk....  But that is exactly what you sound like.


Uhhhh or maybe:  "Due to circumstances beyond my control, (that CRAZY thing called real life!) I am not able to be online much and would like for my squad to continue to grow in my quasi-absence.  However, since I started or was an important member in this squad I would rather not give up the CO position for this short term set-back."

Mensa's post sounded like a simple game mechanic request and not something worthy of a personal attack.  Nor do I buy the "this ends poorly" argument.  If the CO is trusting enough to pass out that privilege to others and they stab him in the back, that is their problem not yours.  If it happens in your squad, I suggest finding a smarter (or more intuitive) CO.  
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: LLogann on August 18, 2009, 01:41:41 PM
You must have a read a different Mensa thread then we did.............. :D 


 :x

And as far as I can see.......  He's not the CO anyways......  What does the CO say?
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: druski85 on August 18, 2009, 02:34:23 PM
Well ultimately the power would be given out by the CO anyway, so if Mensa was not the CO...no soup for him. :)
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: LLogann on August 18, 2009, 02:39:30 PM
Ah but let us get to the root of the issue......

.... Is Mensa making a power play for the 80th?

And how does the rest of the squad feel?

Do you call him a Traitor or a Patriot?

 :x

Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 18, 2009, 02:44:49 PM
You must have a read a different Mensa thread then we did.............. :D 


 :x

And as far as I can see.......  He's not the CO anyways......  What does the CO say?

Ah but let us get to the root of the issue......

.... Is Mensa making a power play for the 80th?

And how does the rest of the squad feel?

Do you call him a Traitor or a Patriot?

 :x



Don't really think it's any of yours or anyone else outside of the Headhunters business. 


ack-ack
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: LLogann on August 18, 2009, 03:00:54 PM
LOL..... I would agree with your statement..... Right up until the point where Mensa posted a thread about the rebel group in the ranks....... Now it just seems to be a public topic.

Don't really think it's any of yours or anyone else outside of the Headhunters business. 


ack-ack

...Or I'm just trying to raise some tension....... One or the other.   :salute
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: Bruv119 on August 18, 2009, 03:09:03 PM
what happens when the guy tries to eject the existing CO?  or edits his CO's priveleges?  :uhoh
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: texastc316 on August 18, 2009, 03:14:09 PM
Mutiny!!!!
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: druski85 on August 18, 2009, 03:43:10 PM
Nor do I buy the "this ends poorly" argument.  If the CO is trusting enough to pass out that privilege to others and they stab him in the back, that is their problem not yours.  If it happens in your squad, I suggest finding a smarter (or more intuitive) CO.  

Hate to quote myself, but....

Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: mensa180 on August 18, 2009, 04:04:24 PM
You must have a read a different Mensa thread then we did.............. :D 


 :x

And as far as I can see.......  He's not the CO anyways......  What does the CO say?

Yes, I am the CO.  Yes, I do trust everyone in the 80th FS "Headhunters" (which I am the CO of, omg?!) enough to give them all powers I have.  If they weren't this trust worthy then I do not think they would be in the squad in the first place :).  So, disregarding your personal attacks...

I know how to give people all the privs, that is because everyone in our squadron has invite/eject privs.  Right now school, aka REAL LIFE is in the way of me being able to log on and reinstate lost privileges if one of my squad mates changes their name or accidentally leaves the squad, or if we add a new person.  I think it would be nice if instead of me being the only one with this power, if everyone in my squad could do this as well as me.

I hardly think this is a disaster waiting to happen.  I will trust those I trust and you all can trust who YOU want, how does my squads distribution of power effect any of you?

Any questions?


edit:

what happens when the guy tries to eject the existing CO?  or edits his CO's priveleges?  :uhoh

I would keep the system that prevents people from ejecting the CO, if not for the only reason that I'm not sure what would happen with the mechanics of the game and the squad.  Would the next person on the roster become CO?  Would the squad disappear all together?
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: LLogann on August 18, 2009, 05:01:47 PM
You must forgive my ignorance Mensa... I was simply along the lines of thinking the PR officer.... 
Mensa
80th FS "Headhunters"
Public Relations Officer


Yes, I am the CO.  Yes, I do trust everyone in the 80th FS "Headhunters" (which I am the CO of, omg?!)  So, disregarding your personal attacks...

Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: mensa180 on August 18, 2009, 05:08:46 PM
I fail to see how if I'm CO or not determines how my wish and I should be treated. 
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: Shuffler on August 18, 2009, 05:57:35 PM
Unlike a few squads...... The 80th checks folks out before asking them to join.

In some cases it may not be a good idea but with the 80th it would be business as usual. Most of us would just forget the privs until actually needed. We have more fun hiding Mensa'a wooden peg leg. One other thing we do lately is bet on just who or what Mensa is looking at at any given time. That lazy eye of his has won me some nice change.
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 18, 2009, 06:05:52 PM
One other thing we do lately is bet on just who or what Mensa is looking at at any given time. That lazy eye of his has won me some nice change.

You can be sure that it's not a girl   :rofl


ack-ack
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: mensa180 on August 18, 2009, 06:14:33 PM
You can be sure that it's not a girl   :rofl


ack-ack

LOL, that was cold.
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 18, 2009, 08:13:15 PM
LOL, that was cold.

Blame Shuffler for the setup.  With squad mates like those, who needs enemies?  :devil


ack-ack
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: Guppy35 on August 18, 2009, 08:37:23 PM
LOL I started the 80th and managed to sucker Mensa into taking over when I took a break.  He's just trying to find a way out of being in charge! :)

Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 18, 2009, 08:59:31 PM
LOL I started the 80th and managed to sucker Mensa into taking over when I took a break.  He's just trying to find a way out of being in charge! :)



Friggin' kids...they want to be adults but without the responsibility.  Shame Mensa, for shame.


ack-ack
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: mensa180 on August 18, 2009, 09:00:29 PM
Friggin' kids...they want to be adults but without the responsibility.  Shame Mensa, for shame.


ack-ack

Hey I'm almost legally an adult, a little over a year to go!  :lol
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: Ghosth on August 19, 2009, 07:15:18 AM
Mensa in that situation the best possible way out may be to disband the squad, have your XO or other person who is online a lot reform it.

But for many squads giving someone new the ability to clean out the roster and in effect disband the squadron would be disaster's waiting for a place to happen.  I respect where your coming from, but in my opinion the pro's don't out weigh the cons.
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: mensa180 on August 19, 2009, 03:55:21 PM
Mensa in that situation the best possible way out may be to disband the squad, have your XO or other person who is online a lot reform it.

But for many squads giving someone new the ability to clean out the roster and in effect disband the squadron would be disaster's waiting for a place to happen.  I respect where your coming from, but in my opinion the pro's don't out weigh the cons.


What cons?  I'm not asking for everyone in the squad to automatically have these powers upon joining, I'm asking for the ability of the CO to grant these powers.  You act like every new member to every squad in AH will suddenly have the power and means to wipe themselves out... 

You said "But for many squads giving someone new the ability to clean out the roster and in effect disband the squadron would be disaster's waiting for a place to happen."  Well there ya go!  It's as simple as the COs of those squads only granting power to those they trust.  I don't see how something that is completely voluntary is a disaster.  If you don't want someone to use the feature, then don't assign them it. 

This isn't something being forced upon people, their inter squad interactions will be exactly the same as normal unless the CO chooses for it to change.

Again, I don't see how what happens in another squad effects anyone else. 

Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: LLogann on August 19, 2009, 05:18:13 PM
The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few, or the one Public Relations Officer that wants it changed................ :D

This isn't something being forced upon people, their inter squad interactions will be exactly the same as normal unless the CO chooses for it to change.

Again, I don't see how what happens in another squad effects anyone else. 

This last thing here sir............  You are requesting a "wish."  So in essence, it affects everybody.  The 21 of you, versus the other 5000 people that subscribe. 

You can't get in game, happens to all of us......BUT seriously......  Today is the 19th of Aug.  You haven't flown this tour?  You're a kid with the summer off?  Getting ready for college?  Think you'll have time to play then?

Perhaps it might be time to rethink your position in the squad....  You should be more concerned with hitting the books......  And even if your 2 hands still work, at college, you'll come to see the world differently.  Even you will score!!!   :salute  (That was you that said that right?)

I'm a wiseguy on the forums most of the time, but let me end by saying I have the utmost respect for you Headhunters.  Plenty of, not only great sticks, but fine gentlemen.  And I'd hope that none of you mind too much the fact that I can't help but stir the drink.

 :salute
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: moot on August 19, 2009, 05:32:36 PM
LLogann, it affects everybody inasmuch as it offers all COs the option to grant CO powers to someone in the squad.  Before anything runs amok, the COs would have to give CO powers.. No different from now with simple invite/eject/rename privs.
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: mensa180 on August 19, 2009, 05:35:22 PM
The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few, or the one Public Relations Officer that wants it changed................ :D

This last thing here sir............  You are requesting a "wish."  So in essence, it affects everybody.  The 21 of you, versus the other 5000 people that subscribe. 

You can't get in game, happens to all of us......BUT seriously......  Today is the 19th of Aug.  You haven't flown this tour?  You're a kid with the summer off?  Getting ready for college?  Think you'll have time to play then?

Perhaps it might be time to rethink your position in the squad....  You should be more concerned with hitting the books......  And even if your 2 hands still work, at college, you'll come to see the world differently.  Even you will score!!!   :salute  (That was you that said that right?)

I'm a wiseguy on the forums most of the time, but let me end by saying I have the utmost respect for you Headhunters.  Plenty of, not only great sticks, but fine gentlemen.  And I'd hope that none of you mind too much the fact that I can't help but stir the drink.

 :salute

Thanks for the compliments.

However I'm still having some trouble how who has what powers in my squad has to do with who has what power in any one elses squad.  

I haven't flown this tour, school started the 5th, I am more concerned with hitting the books... hence my not playing.  Won't ship off to college for another two years.  

I'm really flabbergasted here.  So I guess I will use a question and answer format...

Does the CO have to use this power?
No

Do you have to use this power?
No

Does your squad's distribution of power have anything to do with mine?
No

Does mine with yours?
No



This can only be an issue if people make it an issue.  

As for my position of "CO" I would happily disband and reform if everyone was on frequently enough to ensure everyone who is in the squad now would quickly be returned.  The last time it took awhile.

Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: LLogann on August 19, 2009, 06:22:09 PM
I should also say, that I argue here, against it, from a psuedo-HTC side of things.... The thing about what you both are talking about makes perfect sense to me.  By default set it to the NO/OFF position....  Muppets & Headhunters (and many other squad's as well.... Just an example) aside, how many people will constantly be bothering the staff because they screwed this up or screwed that up.  Young people making bad choices, next thing you know the bad person ejects the entire squad before he announces quitting on Channel.  Now you have 35 CO's a week sending in "fix" requests that HTC will have to respond to. 

Personally, I think it would be a great idea.  We would like that too, as I hope I am speaking correctly for DCCBOSS.  I'd bet money on the fact that nobody in the 80th would abuse it.  But the bottom line for me and my negativity is in the idea of tying up valuable resources for something that is foolish and only done by noobs, dweebs and tards...... Yet we would all suffer from it the same.

Before anything runs amok, the COs would have to give CO powers..
However I'm still having some trouble how who has what powers in my squad has to do with who has what power in any one elses squad. 

<S> m00t
<S> Mensa
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 19, 2009, 06:25:50 PM
The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few, or the one Public Relations Officer that wants it changed................ :D

This last thing here sir............  You are requesting a "wish."  So in essence, it affects everybody.  The 21 of you, versus the other 5000 people that subscribe. 


It doesn't affect you or anyone outside of the squadron.  He is asking for a feature that will allow squadron commanders to grant these abilities to those they choose to.  If your CO doesn't want anyone to have these abilities then you don't get them.  It's as simple as that and I fail to see how this would negatively affect the community as a whole. 


ack-ack
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: LLogann on August 19, 2009, 06:28:20 PM
You must have hit reply despite the "there has been a reply" warning.


It doesn't affect you or anyone outside of the squadron.  He is asking for a feature that will allow squadron commanders to grant these abilities to those they choose to.  If your CO doesn't want anyone to have these abilities then you don't get them.  It's as simple as that and I fail to see how this would negatively affect the community as a whole. 
ack-ack
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: Motherland on August 19, 2009, 06:30:09 PM
You must have hit reply despite the "there has been a reply" warning.


No, your post just didn't make any sense.
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: LLogann on August 19, 2009, 06:32:49 PM
You must be drunk or retarded.  Hopefully it's the former as I don't want to be making fun of special people.

No, your post just didn't make any sense.
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: Motherland on August 19, 2009, 08:06:44 PM
You must be drunk or retarded.  Hopefully it's the former as I don't want to be making fun of special people.

I'm neither which is probably why I can't understand your 'logic'.


By default set it to the NO/OFF position....  Muppets & Headhunters (and many other squad's as well.... Just an example) aside, how many people will constantly be bothering the staff because they screwed this up or screwed that up.  Young people making bad choices, next thing you know the bad person ejects the entire squad before he announces quitting on Channel.  Now you have 35 CO's a week sending in "fix" requests that HTC will have to respond to. 
This has no bearing in reality. What would you be sending requests to HTC to 'fix'? Do people send requests to HTC to 'fix' invites/ejections that already take place?
I mean, this is just a silly point. You act as if people just give out privs with no thought... maybe they do in RT and most squads, I don't know, I haven't been in many... however I have to think that most people consider the possible consequences before doing something like that.

" Now you have 35 CO's a week sending in "fix" requests that HTC will have to respond to.  "
If you were stupid enough to give that many priveledges to someone untrustworthy.... anyway, what would HTC even have to 'fix'? All that happens is you have to re-invite all of the members of the squad.
That's a ridiculous point anyway because you can already grant eject privs and I never see this happening.
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: LLogann on August 19, 2009, 08:48:36 PM
You really overestimate the intelligence of the gaming community that much do you?  Foolish boy.

Might be 45 per week.


I'm neither which is probably why I can't understand your 'logic'.

This has no bearing in reality. What would you be sending requests to HTC to 'fix'? Do people send requests to HTC to 'fix' invites/ejections that already take place?
I mean, this is just a silly point. You act as if people just give out privs with no thought... maybe they do in RT and most squads, I don't know, I haven't been in many... however I have to think that most people consider the possible consequences before doing something like that.

" Now you have 35 CO's a week sending in "fix" requests that HTC will have to respond to.  "
If you were stupid enough to give that many priveledges to someone untrustworthy.... anyway, what would HTC even have to 'fix'? All that happens is you have to re-invite all of the members of the squad.
That's a ridiculous point anyway because you can already grant eject privs and I never see this happening.
Title: Re: The ability...
Post by: ImADot on August 20, 2009, 12:53:16 PM
I could have sworn I've done it before - and I'm not the CO.  Maybe it was before the latest release, or I was "impaired" at the time.