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Title: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Russian on August 16, 2009, 10:18:27 PM
First "In-game" Screenshots here

http://www.simhq.com/_air13/air_425a.html

They are planning to make this better than Ka-50...It's going to be great. :)
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Reaper90 on August 17, 2009, 12:02:51 AM
kittens are going to die....
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: DrDea on August 17, 2009, 12:15:26 AM
 They built them in my home town.To bad I didnt respect the flight sim reality part as much as now.I coulda spawn camped them with cameras all day.
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Tarmac on August 17, 2009, 12:19:38 AM
I see a targeting pod!  that could be freaking sweet.
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: jdbecks on August 17, 2009, 12:55:05 AM
my fav modern day plane  :x cant wait...its a shame I wont know what have the stuff deos :D,

sounds like silly question, but deos a A10 have the capability to fight air to air?
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Serenity on August 17, 2009, 03:05:34 AM
my fav modern day plane  :x cant wait...its a shame I wont know what have the stuff deos :D,

sounds like silly question, but deos a A10 have the capability to fight air to air?

Does an Il-2? Kinda the same situation methinks, albeit a bit oversimplified.
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Tec on August 17, 2009, 03:50:06 AM
Warthogs can carry sidewinders for bringing down helos and self defense. IIRC the only credited A2A kill they received in Desert Storm was BFG vs. helo.
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Strip on August 17, 2009, 09:17:07 AM
Warthogs can carry sidewinders for bringing down helos and self defense. IIRC the only credited A2A kill they received in Desert Storm was BFG vs. helo.

:uhoh

Was there anything left?
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Fender16 on August 17, 2009, 09:42:34 AM
Man, I am still trying to learn how to fly in DCS Black Shark.
I will be getting this for sure.
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Tec on August 17, 2009, 10:12:17 AM
:uhoh

Was there anything left?

Quote
"We tried to ID the helicopter after we were done and it was just in a bunch of little pieces, so we can't tell what type it was."

from http://articles.latimes.com/1991-02-08/news/mn-937_1_air-force (http://articles.latimes.com/1991-02-08/news/mn-937_1_air-force)

and my bad, they chalked up 2 Iraqi choppers to gun kills.
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Wolfala on August 17, 2009, 10:47:10 AM
from http://articles.latimes.com/1991-02-08/news/mn-937_1_air-force (http://articles.latimes.com/1991-02-08/news/mn-937_1_air-force)

and my bad, they chalked up 2 Iraqi choppers to gun kills.

I have a book on the Iowa class battleships - gotta dif it out. I remember 1 passage written during the Korean war going something to the effect "We shot a HC (High Capacity) round to the spotters mark - which was a Soviet T-55 tank. The round impacted directly on the tank. A BDA done later couldn't find anything larger then a thumb tack."

My old boss when I was at the Naval Post Graduate School was the last wartime commander of the USS Wisconsin. I can ask him - but then again he was the guy shelling the Iraqi's with them surrendering to UAVs.
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Blackwulf on August 17, 2009, 11:08:28 AM
If it doesn't have Starforce, I will definately be picking this up when it comes out, the A-10 is the only modern plane I'd be excited to have in a sim.   But, given what SF did to my old system with Flaming Cliffs (which I bought to fly the A-10) I will have to pass if it has it. 
No game is worth a full wipe/reinstall and replacing two DVD drives to play.

Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Strip on August 17, 2009, 11:11:31 AM
If it doesn't have Starforce, I will definately be picking this up when it comes out, the A-10 is the only modern plane I'd be excited to have in a sim.   But, given what SF did to my old system with Flaming Cliffs (which I bought to fly the A-10) I will have to pass if it has it. 
No game is worth a full wipe/reinstall and replacing two DVD drives to play.



Why in the world did/do you have to do that?
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on August 17, 2009, 11:25:14 AM
Why in the world did/do you have to do that?


Some had very nasty side effects from having starforce. Even claimed dead dvd drives.
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Blackwulf on August 17, 2009, 01:27:45 PM
Why in the world did/do you have to do that?


SF trashed both DVD drives in my system, then failed to remove even with the "cleaner" that the company bregrudgingly provided after several lawsuits.  In the end, it became such a mess that it was easier, and far safer, to just wipe the C: drive and do a reinstall.
SF is classed as malware, and rightly so.  There are a lot of stories about things it has done to systems, but just based on what I went through, is enough for me to never buy a game that has it again. 
Aparently the majority of people that had major problems were like me, with SATA drives, and there is something it does with the drivers that causes them to grind to a halt, and once they slow to a certain point, it can physically damage them.  It blocks your ability to burn DVD's so I couldn't archive my data files.  It also is reported to act like a virus, and install itself on other machines in a network, even though no one installed a SF "protected" game on the other machines.
I did not know about all this when I bought the game, but I sure learned in a hurry.  Even flashing the drives with new firmware didn't bring them back.  After upgrading to a new system later on, I take no chances, and research any new game for stuff like this before buying it.
I am not a pirate.  I do not, and did not, have any software for ripping protected content on my system, I don't run virtual drives, or any of the other stuff that the company behind Starforce always claims in responding to posts like this on other message boards.  I certainly don't appreciate being treated like a pirate, and having my system crippled to prevent me from archiving my own work onto DVD's either. Let alone having my system trashed.
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Strip on August 17, 2009, 02:24:32 PM
Wow....

That describes almost exactly what happened to me tho I couldn't 100% sure.

I lost my DVD drive and then lost my computer in almost the same manner.

Even if it wasnt the case with mine it still gets me....

 :furious  :mad: :furious
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Russian on August 17, 2009, 05:39:29 PM
Some had very nasty side effects from having starforce. Even claimed dead dvd drives.

I think I was affected by that - drive failed and was replaced by seller sometime in 2004-5ish time frame.  Right now it's tamer DRM - it no longer brakes hardware ;)
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Jappa52 on August 18, 2009, 02:06:02 PM
First "In-game" Screenshots here

http://www.simhq.com/_air13/air_425a.html

They are planning to make this better than Ka-50...It's going to be great. :)

That looks great! Do you know if there will be co-op or online play available? I would love to run some wingman action in a game like this..

[small hijack]
I would KILL.... several pitchers of beer :t for a good Vietnam era sim. F-4s all day long :rock
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Enker on August 18, 2009, 07:56:31 PM
That looks great! Do you know if there will be co-op or online play available? I would love to run some wingman action in a game like this..

[small hijack]
I would KILL.... several pitchers of beer :t for a good Vietnam era sim. F-4s all day long :rock
Whirlwind Over Vietnam? Chuck Yeager's Air Combat? Maybe? I just wish I could find a good one too. I just found out about Whirlwind Over Vietnam from SimHQ, but I have begun to doubt their credibility after the review on IL-2: 1946. I found out about Chuck Yeager's Air Combat on YouTube, and have yet to play it.
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Jappa52 on August 19, 2009, 01:12:17 PM
Whirlwind Over Vietnam? Chuck Yeager's Air Combat? Maybe? I just wish I could find a good one too. I just found out about Whirlwind Over Vietnam from SimHQ, but I have begun to doubt their credibility after the review on IL-2: 1946. I found out about Chuck Yeager's Air Combat on YouTube, and have yet to play it.

well I've heard about Wings Over Vietnam but it doesn't look too good
Quote
From gamespot: Those who will only settle for the best in terms of flight model fidelity and cutting-edge graphics should let this one fly on by.
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The novelty of the Vietnam War setting is just about all that Whirlwind Over Vietnam has going for it.- gamespot
and chuck yeagers air combat is.... a little dated (http://homepage.mac.com/glendaadams/shots/cy1.jpg)

Not taking punches here Enker I've just searched and searched but haven't had any luck in finding anything worth spending time and money on. I sure wish someone would though...
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: jollyFE on August 19, 2009, 03:00:10 PM
I see a targeting pod!  that could be freaking sweet.

I think it's a lightening pod...they hang on pretty much every fighter and a few bombers too.  They are starting to use all those platforms for ISR (Intelligence Surveilance Recconnaissance)
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Die Hard on August 19, 2009, 03:27:45 PM
well I've heard about Wings Over Vietnam but it doesn't look too good...

It looks good to me. ThirdWire's jet sims are excellent fun. They're not studysims like the DCS line or Falcon 4, but more casual sims like Jane's Nato Fighters or IAF.

I haven't tried their WWI sim, but all their jet sims are excellent in my opinion, including the Vietnam one:


http://www.thirdwire.com/project_sf2v.htm

ThirdWire's sims also have the second largest modding community after MS Flightsim (or so they claim ;)).

(http://www.thirdwire.com/images/sf2v_06.JPG)

(http://www.thirdwire.com/images/sf2v_02.JPG)
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Enker on August 19, 2009, 05:00:49 PM
It looks good to me. ThirdWire's jet sims are excellent fun. They're not studysims like the DCS line or Falcon 4, but more casual sims like Jane's Nato Fighters or IAF.

I haven't tried their WWI sim, but all their jet sims are excellent in my opinion, including the Vietnam one:


http://www.thirdwire.com/project_sf2v.htm

ThirdWire's sims also have the second largest modding community after MS Flightsim (or so they claim ;)).

(http://www.thirdwire.com/images/sf2v_06.JPG)

(http://www.thirdwire.com/images/sf2v_02.JPG)
Do you know about a good Korea flight sim? I look and look, yet they either seem arcadey, hideous, or buggy, generally a mix of all three.

I'm really excited about this Warthog game, flying helicopters has never really appealed to me. I mean, what if your rotor shuts down? How are you going to glide to the ground?

Edit: Is that better Tec? I made the sig when I was in summer mode, so math functions were shut down
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Tec on August 19, 2009, 07:40:29 PM
Enker you need to get out a calculator and fix your sig.
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Die Hard on August 19, 2009, 09:23:15 PM
Do you know about a good Korea flight sim?

Nope. Sorry.


I'm really excited about this Warthog game, flying helicopters has never really appealed to me. I mean, what if your rotor shuts down? How are you going to glide to the ground?

Autorotation (google it) or in the Ka-50 you can also eject if you need to.
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: Strip on August 19, 2009, 11:59:29 PM
Its the main rotor seizing that you need to worry about in helicopters, no recovery plan for that.

In any event rotors don't shut down, engines do, which is where autorotation comes into play.
Title: Re: DCS: A-10C Warthog
Post by: jdbecks on August 20, 2009, 03:17:40 AM
It looks good to me. ThirdWire's jet sims are excellent fun. They're not studysims like the DCS line or Falcon 4, but more casual sims like Jane's Nato Fighters or IAF.

I haven't tried their WWI sim, but all their jet sims are excellent in my opinion, including the Vietnam one:


http://www.thirdwire.com/project_sf2v.htm

ThirdWire's sims also have the second largest modding community after MS Flightsim (or so they claim ;)).

(http://www.thirdwire.com/images/sf2v_06.JPG)

(http://www.thirdwire.com/images/sf2v_02.JPG)

I tried to play free falcon 5...I just dont know how to fire a missle lol..Im just trying to use my guns